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Are HBWR seeds worth doing?
    #14087674 - 03/08/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm doing acid in a few weeks for the first time, but I've been thinking about trying HBWR. Should I do it, and, what's a good website with legit seeds?


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087708 - 03/08/11 04:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

nO. Get some real drugs.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087711 - 03/08/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Its worth it, its a euphoric chill trip


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087716 - 03/08/11 04:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't remember where I got mine but I'm thinking something like Bouncing Bear Botanicals.

Most ethnobotanical vendors have them though, you shouldn't have too much trouble.

The seeds are very much worth trying IMO. They're not as intensely psychedelic as LSD, but they are cheap and legal, and have some unique features, such as the sedative nature of the trip. Expect a relaxed, laid-back kind of trip with really cool visual patterning. They are also far superior to morning glory seeds both in terms of convenience and strength from what I have heard.

A couple caveats: first, get the "Hawaiian" strain, as it is supposedly the most potent. Second, use a knife or razor to scrape the fur off the seeds before you eat them. There are a lot of "extraction methods" out there, but just chewing them up and washing them down with fruit juice worked great for me. They didn't taste like much, and the nausea was mild - weed was more than enough to take the edge off.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087793 - 03/08/11 05:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

They are a great entheogen and can produce a powerful trip. Just do a lot of reading about the possible vasoconstriction and ways to reduce it.


I have had some kickass times on various LSA containing seeds. Lower doses are almost sedating.
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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: aNeway2sayHooray]
    #14087801 - 03/08/11 05:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i like hbwr seeds but you should do a cwe or youll feel like poo


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #14087862 - 03/08/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Does the nausea go away or is it persistent throughout the trip?


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087870 - 03/08/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It goes away about a third of the way through the trip


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14087882 - 03/08/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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It goes away about a third of the way through the trip



not for me mine lasted the whole trip.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087883 - 03/08/11 05:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yep, do them. I find them very euphoric. Quite nice if you don't mind the stomach troubles. If it gets bad just purge. :shrug:


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087885 - 03/08/11 05:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said:
Does the nausea go away or is it persistent throughout the trip?




Depends on the person. A lot of people complain about the effects persisting.

I'd highly recommend one of the LSH methods involving peppermint.
And an extraction into some Everclear.
Well worth it for 5-6 hours of work...


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14087889 - 03/08/11 05:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My first dose was with 10 seeds, I can't say they had any effect on me.  I'd reccomend morning glory seeds; and be sure to do a thourogh extraction.

I ate about 100 seeds and fell asleep an hour later.  I woke up with a headache the next morning and got an intense rush of dizziness at about 10AM while mowing the grass.  It was definately psychadelic.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14087905 - 03/08/11 05:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I really want to try HBWR again sometime soon... I've only actually tried them twice.

First time, I just scraped the fur off the seeds and ate 'em. I fell asleep an hour later because the sedation hit me hard before the psychedelia became prominent. Then another hour after that I woke up to strong euphoria and some fuckin' awesome patterns in the air and on the walls. I felt kinda shitty, but again, could easily handle it with weed. I would say mushrooms actually give me worse nausea.

Then later, I tried some far-out extraction method that claimed to isolate the specifically hallucinogenic compound of the seeds, LSH. Hofmann said LSA was a non-psychedelic sedative, and attributed the hallucinogenic nature of the seeds to other, unknown compounds. It involved using alcohol mixed with mint oil.

Long and short, it worked, but seeing as how the highest-percentage everclear you can buy in California is 75%, I didn't have the patience to wait days for evaporation. I just drank the shit. Terrible idea. The visuals were very strong from what I remember, but I couldn't appreciate them because I spent the whole trip in some godawful semi-conscious state just trying not to puke. Then I did, and it was over. :rolleyes:


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14087929 - 03/08/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you for the replies. Now I just have to find a good site.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14087970 - 03/08/11 05:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had a solid trip ingesting 13... 13 is the magic number for me.
Grind them up with a mortar and pestle (or coffee grinder, but i like to put effort into it, i feel like it makes for a better trip). There's no need to scrape the husks off, that's an unnecessary pain in the ass. Just dump the powder on a plate and use a sharp knife tip to remove the bigger chunks of the seeds that won't grind completely. I put the ground seeds in a shot glass full of water, then let it chill in the fridge for a few hours (5 hours, but less might be okay.) I take the shot and then eat fresh ginger to curb the nausea. Fasting is important also, but make sure you eat SOMETHING the morning before you trip. Make sure it's healthy... having an unclean system might be what makes some people so sick. 6 hours is a good fasting period. 2 hours into the trip, you'll probably be ravenously hungry. Food is good at this point, something light like soup and toast.
LSA has extremely sedative effects. It's tempting to curl up in a ball and go to dreamland, but you'll stay more lucid if you lay flat on your back. If you can stay alert, it reveals the secrets of the universe to you. But don't expect to "do" anything while tripping. You'll just want to lay there.
Definitely get the Hawaiian strain, and definitely get HBWR seeds and not Morning Glories, as mentioned above.
Using this method, the nausea isn't too bad. Weed helps, as does laying motionless. After you eat you'll feel much better, just make sure to wait 2 hours after ingesting.

I love these seeds, definitely try them at least once.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: priestess]
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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: ROFL_my_ WAFFLE]
    #14088177 - 03/08/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Terrible drug for me, nothing but discomfort.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: priestess]
    #14088292 - 03/08/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Are they worth "doing?"

I'd say only if you like psychedelics.

And if done properly.

There is, of course, no one "right" way, but some are better than others. I believe that CWE reduces A LOT of nausea. The level of nausea varies batch to batch, method to method, almost as much as person to person.

I really should get off my duff and write the guide I've long been meaning to.


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I had a solid trip ingesting 13... 13 is the magic number for me.





:lol:  I'm glad to see I'm not the only weirdo who has considered/done this.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: pmb]
    #14088528 - 03/08/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Terrible drug for me, nothing but discomfort.



Same here. I can appreciate it for its uniqueness which provided a unique perespective on some things, but the two times ive done it (one time with morning glory, one with HBWR) have been very uncomfortable.


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Re: Are HBWR seeds worth doing? [Re: The_Ghost]
    #14088875 - 03/08/11 08:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm trying to work out solid approaches to eliminating side-effects... however, I think these effects are partly due to contaminants, and partly due to the actives themselves.

Vasoconstrictive effects are associated with the actives and seem likely only to go up with dose, no matter how pure your material.

On the other hand, stuff like the nausea, I believe, is mostly an issue of contaminant.

I say this because with the cleanest extracts I've seen, there was no nausea, but still vasoconstrictive effect present. (As well as a runny/stuffy nose, and a general "presure" in the head.)


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