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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: 4HO-DMT]
    #14094425 - 03/09/11 07:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't even like the word success. Reminds me of ego hungry yuppies.

Ain't nothin sweeter than ridin the rails.


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ahchela]
    #14095961 - 03/10/11 12:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well, we all seem to some degree understand the power of psycs, and i beleive gov officals let alone entertainers do too, i really wanna fuckin know who is in the psychadelic closet that holds legal authority or entertainers we don't suspect im certain they're out there. food for thought...


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Subconscious]
    #14097211 - 03/10/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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irie.one said:
Having a family is definitely a successful life.




What about a family with 10 kids living off welfare in a 2 bedroom apartment?



Well, it's not something that just "happens to you". You gotta be pretty trailer trash if it does. I am talking about first creating an environment for yourself that you'd want to raise kids in, not just popping them out between the old meat shingles like a rabbit.


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14097618 - 03/10/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

When I first started lurking on this site I was dismayed by the OBVIOUS lean of the audience demographic towards younger peeps. The bulk of the posters appeared to be college or high-school students and it made me self-conscious about my "juvenile" interests in mind-expansion. Reminding myself of the existence of people like Huxley and Shulgin helped me snap out of that mind-set.

At any rate, I'm a middle-aged guy with a relatively normal/successful life at this point. It's only now that life is reasonably stable financially and emotionally that I am tearing full-steam ahead into psychedelic exploration (a desire that I've harbored for decades). So, yeah, I'm a closet psychonaut and a fairly upstanding person in my secret identity. (I give blood, win professional awards, have great relationships with my kids, donate to food banks, etc. etc.) so it's possible to be in both places.


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14097629 - 03/10/11 12:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm extremely intellectual and I'm on my way to earning my degree in botany, and I plan on working on sustainability and conservation across the world. The only thing that psychedelics have really given me is the critical perspective on our society that makes me want to spit fire through speakers and start a revolution. Then again that would be my greatest dream come true.

I think that success is happiness, and you create your happiness. Not your possessions or your pool. What you own, ends up owning you. I'm happy with a place to sleep and something to eat.


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ahchela]
    #14097997 - 03/10/11 01:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ahchela said:
I don't even like the word success. Reminds me of ego hungry yuppies.

Ain't nothin sweeter than ridin the rails.



How old are you, if I may ask?
"Success" doesn't need to be a negative thing. It doesn't mean being a Wall Street shark getting filthy rich at the price of everyone else's misfortune.
Success is to focus on the things that you want to achieve for yourself and to get there.
You can be successful as an organic farmer. You can be successful dedicating your life to helping less fortunate people. Were Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Ghandi not successful?


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: German Kahuna]
    #14098250 - 03/10/11 02:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's semantics man, not a huge deal...


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ahchela]
    #14098344 - 03/10/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: waves]
    #14098596 - 03/10/11 03:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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TheDukeofLizards said:
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ahchela said:
I don't even like the word success. Reminds me of ego hungry yuppies.

Ain't nothin sweeter than ridin the rails.





Do you actually ride trains or are you just feeding your ego by trying to make a bunch of people on the internet think you do?




www.eHobo.net


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: SnarkyPuffs]
    #14099646 - 03/10/11 06:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Wow...I have more age-peers on this forum than I thought!

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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: SnarkyPuffs]
    #14099809 - 03/10/11 06:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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SnarkyPuffs said:
When I first started lurking on this site I was dismayed by the OBVIOUS lean of the audience demographic towards younger peeps. The bulk of the posters appeared to be college or high-school students and it made me self-conscious about my "juvenile" interests in mind-expansion. Reminding myself of the existence of people like Huxley and Shulgin helped me snap out of that mind-set.

At any rate, I'm a middle-aged guy with a relatively normal/successful life at this point. It's only now that life is reasonably stable financially and emotionally that I am tearing full-steam ahead into psychedelic exploration (a desire that I've harbored for decades). So, yeah, I'm a closet psychonaut and a fairly upstanding person in my secret identity. (I give blood, win professional awards, have great relationships with my kids, donate to food banks, etc. etc.) so it's possible to be in both places.





I kind of feel the same way sometimes.  But there are plenty of middle-aged folks on here too.  I'm in my thirties at any rate (is that middle aged :frightening:) Anyway I feel successful.


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: waves]
    #14099875 - 03/10/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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German Kahuna said:
How old are you, if I may ask?
"Success" doesn't need to be a negative thing. It doesn't mean being a Wall Street shark getting filthy rich at the price of everyone else's misfortune.
Success is to focus on the things that you want to achieve for yourself and to get there.
You can be successful as an organic farmer. You can be successful dedicating your life to helping less fortunate people. Were Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela and Mahatma Ghandi not successful?




By asking my age you pretty much flaunt my point.
Thats a simple socialogical point you well understand, whether you would consciously construct the idea.

"I have such and such degrees, kids, cars, 401k, oh yeah and I'm looking within. I don't consider success to be about material things, or social 'virtues' but when you ask me about success thats what fills most of my sentences. Materialism."

I understand that there are a lot of people who come onto this site with the impression of psychedelic users being social degenerates, but in my eyes most of what has been posted in the first 2 pages comes from a place of ego.


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Do you actually ride trains or are you just feeding your ego by trying to make a bunch of people on the internet think you do?




That quote had nothing to do with riding trains, no I do not ride trains. It seems I've offended you.
Are you offended because you're a hobo riding the rails and I'm using your culture to point out the shallowness which has been flaunted in this thread?
Or are you offended because you're an ego hungry yuppie?


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ahchela]
    #14100166 - 03/10/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ahchela]
    #14100264 - 03/10/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My post was pretty negative, coming from my background I don't understand how people can spend most of their waking life working for or aquiring materials and social recognition. Leaving all the childhood wonder for some rainy day when they're old and gray and passing away.


I just don't understand this world, and having latent negativity inside me sometimes it comes out when I'm shocked by what I view as a perverse relfection of the flaws which exist in myself.

I've never hopped a train, but I've been a hobo sometimes. I was going to go that route again but ended up joining a band which makes it a little difficult.
Being alone in the woods, playing my guitar and singing while everyone else is working. Living by my own law of endless creative reflection. My ego is shocked when I see how others choose to live, I just don't understand this world or its values.

*edit: and I'm sorry for being a dick, each is a world unto ITself


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ahchela]
    #14100332 - 03/10/11 08:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: waves]
    #14102335 - 03/11/11 03:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well not everyone is happy where they are, there is plenty of misery in the 9-5 world. In the land of exceptionalism the ordinary are often trod and conflicted, and in the developing world man can just be stretched - limited to bare survival. I know a lot of miserable people and it breaks my heart.
Its not right to judge another, but its a habit of guilt and insecurity for me. Seeing just how caught up people can be, people I love. Family and friends.
I am a happy man, but there is fear in my heart, for all these people I see but cannot help.

Is success learning to overcome the guilt of contentment?


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ahchela]
    #14102841 - 03/11/11 08:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

People live their lives differently.

I never understand how people can waste their lives doing absolutely nothing.  Never affecting anything, never helping anyone, and never amounting to anything substantial.  And in the end they end up getting old and sick, and siphoning the resources of everyone else, while never contributing themselves.

Many people get a great deal of pleasure and happiness out of contributing and affecting others.


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Smith, P.  Bull. Menninger Clinic (1959) 23:20-27; p. 27.

...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: badchad]
    #14102898 - 03/11/11 08:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just want to tell you all that I'm so glad I found this place, Shroomery. There seems to be an underlying theme among all of you (us); that you're aware of a deeper meaning to life that can be discovered from within. At least that's how I'm interpreting the responses to this thread.

I really did mean "success" as what you deem to be successful in your own eyes, because let's face it, that's all that matters. You're the only person who can determine if you are happy and if you're successful, and you're the only person who it applies to.

What makes me so happy to see is that all of the responders thus far have come from completely different walks of life, yet all consider themselves to be successful, that's really great :thumbup:.

Thanks for helping me rationalize my psychedelic use and how it relates to my personal success, because I really do think that it contributes in a big way. Once I began seeking the deeper meaning to life, everything else that happens in it (even things that some of you would consider to be superficial version of success, like the money, cars, pool, mansion, etc.), will be so much more meaningful to me, and further contribute to my happiness, because of the appreciation I have for all of the things around me. You guys are awesome.

Along the lines of "superficial" things and how they contribute to success, here's how I'm seeing it: I'm really into cars, how they work, how they've got so much raw power (sometimes), and how they're useful to society. I can honestly say that it brings me happiness to get in my inexpensive, nondescript car, and go for a Fall drive on a windy road and enjoy the colors of nature. But I can also say I'd be even happier if I hopped in a Bentley Continental GT and did the same drive :smirk:. You could put a giant shoebox over it for all I care, it doesn't matter to me if other people know what it is, that's not what it's about, it would be solely to bring me happiness. And I don't see anything wrong with that :smile:.


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: irie.one]
    #14103419 - 03/11/11 10:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Try motorcycles irie.one, Ducati's are good ones :smile: but all motorcycles are very free and alive feeling making :thumbup:


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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: fantasticfungus]
    #14103530 - 03/11/11 11:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To answer the original post I have to say that YEP... in terms of psycadelic drug usage I am a success!  I saved the person I love (my wife) from horrible painful headache's using the miracle drug compound Psilocybin.

I discovered online that there's a cure for vascular headache thats been known about for decades and that it is a psycadelic compound thats found in mushrooms.  I researched the cure (using ample information provided here online) and located these psycadelic mushrooms and experimented with them dosing myself up!!! fun fun fun :cool:.

I waited until the time was right (this was when my poor wife was really struggling again) and administered the mushroom cure.  Wam Bam thankyou Mam, the miracle happened.


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