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joemolloy
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: waves]
#14090769 - 03/09/11 03:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Definitely cool, Natureboy. I hope you enjoy yourself and have the best trip of your life.
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: joemolloy]
#14090884 - 03/09/11 04:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FractalDust: Its untested (by either of us) blotter so I go first with a sober sitter. Been a LOOOONG time for me, and I'm a known lightweight when it comes to L. My son says he's tripped (hasn't said how often or how hard), presumably while he was out of state in college. So, it'll be a one-at-a-time bioassay for the first round as a precaution.
irie.one: This is pretty new ground for us. We have more and more things in common now that he's older. I've only gotten back to old interests and pursuits in the past four years. Give it time. Remember - your parents are probably victims of years of demonizing propaganda w/r/t psychedelics, so it does take some "re-education."
DukeofLizards: You got it. Plans are contingent on my wife going out of town to visit her mother for a long week-end, so meanwhile, we wait on that.
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Nature Boy]
#14091229 - 03/09/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I guess that's the difference between you and me. Instead of losing it all I gave it all away because there's no reason to build a house of cards that I'm going to destroy by living the way I want to so I strive to create the reality that I desire every day.
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Nature Boy]
#14091244 - 03/09/11 08:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think psychadelics have helped my find more "happiness" than success. If anything I think they might have messed with my perspective of success. I no long worry about things like money because I feel it distracts me from the bigger picture (helping people and spreading love). I simply realized that the world sets us up on a path that goes no where when we are brought up thinking success is a big house, car and a pool. Dont get me wrong, those things are great/important...they just dont come first in my book.
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German Kahuna
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: irie.one]
#14091277 - 03/09/11 08:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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joemolloy said: I am a professional with two Masters Degrees and wear a suit and tie to work everyday. I have a highly respected job that pays well and am an upstanding member of my community. I have it all - the house, the car, the pool, etc. No one knows of my psychedelic usage, I don't even have friends who smoke weed. This forum is the only outlet I have to discuss this underworld that I inhabit.
I do not attribute any of my success to psychedelics, they get me high on weekends and are used for purely recreational purposes. If anything, they probably detract from my ability to think critically and rationally. They probably are also responsible for annoying memory problems that I sometimes have.
^ That. Sounds like me, sort of. Minus the pool. Too fucking cold where I am most of the year. But yeah, I got a nice big house, a wife, two sweet kids and a dog and I travel the World. I got a well paying job in IT being responsible for two data centers of a very reputible private German clinic. My sister's husband is a medical doctor in the radiology department of an equally reputable university hospital here. We get high together all the time. The man is the biggest pothead I ever met. We smoke, do mushrooms, DMT, acid, coke, MDMA, whatever... The trick is to stay focused on what you want to achieve for yourself while still not waiving the fun in life.
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joemolloy
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: German Kahuna]
#14092487 - 03/09/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's funny, Kahuna, a while back when I told my mom (she's in her 60s) that I was tripping she decided to educate herself about these drugs to gauge their dangers. One night I was talking to her on the phone and she said, "You know there's this cool looking black man who sounds intelligent on a mushroom website and he said, <I don't remember what she was quoting from you>." Well anyway, she was talking about you and I always get a laugh thinking about it. She thought that you really were the black dude with that hat. You're not right?
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: joemolloy]
#14092552 - 03/09/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14092867 - 03/09/11 02:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Honestly all walks of life have used Psychedelics such as bill gates or your local crack dealer. It all depends on if you have the resources and put in effort to college to get a degree and be successful
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Cakk]
#14093236 - 03/09/11 03:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Success" is really a matter of perspective. I never wanted children, but by some peoples standards that could be seen as a negative thing. People with children may view me as less "successful" then them but I never wanted that lifestyle to begin with. I could view a lot of my friends as less successful than me because despite the fact they had children they never really did anything else with their lives.
I think success is something that can really only be defined by the individual... are you working towards your life goals, are you happy and content with the way your life is going? If so, I would say you're successful.
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Subconscious]
#14093681 - 03/09/11 05:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn't ever judge anyone for not wanting children (except for thinking that you are out of your right mind). All I know is that my life is rich because of my kids. When you are young you are the rebel that breaks away from your parents, setting out to conquer the World. When you are grown you are independent making it on your own. Children are just ballast and a nuisance. And then your parents grow old and eventually die. Where are all your high-school and party pals then? And at some point you grow old, too and then you are all alone. Or do you think you are gonna hang out with your college buddies high-fiving at the retirement home? No, my friend. It's about family. We are tribal beings. Blood is thicker than water. My dad passed away peacefully yesterday, bless him. But not before I told him that I loved him. THAT is what life is about.
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joemolloy said: It's funny, Kahuna, a while back when I told my mom (she's in her 60s) that I was tripping she decided to educate herself about these drugs to gauge their dangers. One night I was talking to her on the phone and she said, "You know there's this cool looking black man who sounds intelligent on a mushroom website and he said, <I don't remember what she was quoting from you>." Well anyway, she was talking about you and I always get a laugh thinking about it. She thought that you really were the black dude with that hat. You're not right?
Haha! Bless your mom, too. Tell her Johnny Guitar Watson offers his deference. But no. I am a paleface. But I am part German, Hungarian, Czech, Argentinian. My wife is half African, so I guess my kids really are Earth Citizen. May they wear a hat if they wish to.
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irie.one
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Registered: 03/07/11
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: German Kahuna]
#14093752 - 03/09/11 05:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said: I wouldn't ever judge anyone for not wanting children (except for thinking that you are out of your right mind). All I know is that my life is rich because of my kids. When you are young you are the rebel that breaks away from your parents, setting out to conquer the World. When you are grown you are independent making it on your own. Children are just ballast and a nuisance. And then your parents grow old and eventually die. Where are all your high-school and party pals then? And at some point you grow old, too and then you are all alone. Or do you think you are gonna hang out with your college buddies high-fiving at the retirement home? No, my friend. It's about family. We are tribal beings. Blood is thicker than water. My dad passed away peacefully yesterday, bless him. But not before I told him that I loved him. THAT is what life is about.
My condolences about your father. It is a very special experience being able to express love for someone on their deathbed and receive it back. I was able to do this with my grandfather, and the hardest part was that I knew it would be the last time I ever spoke to him or saw him living.
I share the same views about children. I'm young at 22, but I'm eager to have children in my future. Biologically we're on this earth for one thing, to survive and reproduce. That said, success would be to survive and have children from a biological perspective. But I have a feeling it will be incredibly fulfilling when that stage of my life arrives. I know it will be a challenge raising children, especially since I'll always love them more than they will love me, which is hard to wrap my head around until it happens.
Having a family is definitely a successful life. Thanks for all of the great responses everyone. It warms my heart to think about all of the psychedelic users that consider themselves to be successful, because yes, it's all up to how you feel about your life .
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: irie.one]
#14093901 - 03/09/11 05:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yea i am a young person (23) and i've been interested in the beneficial aspects of psychedelics for years now. last january i did my 2nd Mckenna recommended 5g in silent darkness and i can still feel the reverberations at times. my major epiphany that night was that i have to love myself before i will ever be able to really love anyone else. and in order to truly love myself i cannot compromise my values for anything. this has seriously helped further my personal development and motivations. at the same time it has made me reflect on the nature of my relationships, and that is proving to be one of the most difficult processes i've ever experienced... but as far as a "successful" lifestyle goes, i'm not too sure. see i'm one of those paranoid fucks who has convinced himself that our monetary system will crash in the very near future. for me, that is the elephant in the room whenever someone mentions trying to build a "successful career". once our consumer culture has completely destroyed itself, the only thing that will matter is the ability to grow food, or the participation in a community that does so. the "financial stability" that you seek will mean absolutely nothing IMHO.
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: irie.one]
#14093930 - 03/09/11 05:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I feel successful. Not because of money, but because of happiness. I am currently a PhD student in physics. I love mathematics and I love what I do. I also love psychedelics
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14093955 - 03/09/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think 'success' is kind of like a misnomer anyways.
having a big house and a mortgage and a steady 9-5 and a minivan and a bunch of little uglier, smellier versions of me is not what I define as success for myself. If thats your thing, and you love it, then awesome, I'm very happy for you. But thats not what I'm into right now. success is more an atitude than something people recognize within you.
Do you think kurt cobain was successful? I sure as shit dont. Look what happened to him. He couldnt reconcile his life, so clearly he wasnt very successful. I mean in some superficial respects, but really the 90's was a horrible period for music, so dont give him too much credit 
EDIT: Also, as much as it's totally awesome you guys want kids and stuff, it's not the only way to have family. I consider many of my friends family and yes, I will be high-fiving thos bitches in the old folks home. I'm not going to get into it right now, but really the world is overpopulated as shit, and you cannot deny the impact that is having on the planet. Success to me is honestly making it to the grave without having fathered a single soul. I mean the whole point of meditation, psychedelics, some would argue art, poetry, music and life itself is to reconnect back with the source. bringing more beings to suffer on the world is getting farther and farther away from the source. JUST MY LIFEVIEW, NO NEED TO DEFEND YOUR KIDS I THINK IT'S TOTALLY AWESOME YOU GUYS WANT KIDS AND ARE HAPPY. Honestly if I end up having kids(by choice or not), I will love them with all my heart and soul, I'm not saying I dont like them at all. I'm extremely close with my family and I totally recognize how important that connection is
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: German Kahuna]
#14093964 - 03/09/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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German Kahuna said: I wouldn't ever judge anyone for not wanting children (except for thinking that you are out of your right mind). All I know is that my life is rich because of my kids. When you are young you are the rebel that breaks away from your parents, setting out to conquer the World. When you are grown you are independent making it on your own. Children are just ballast and a nuisance. And then your parents grow old and eventually die. Where are all your high-school and party pals then? And at some point you grow old, too and then you are all alone. Or do you think you are gonna hang out with your college buddies high-fiving at the retirement home? No, my friend. It's about family. We are tribal beings. Blood is thicker than water. My dad passed away peacefully yesterday, bless him. But not before I told him that I loved him. THAT is what life is about.
I can see where you're coming from, and see why some people would want that lifestyle... but that doesn't mean it's the rule for everyone.
People want differant things out of life I suppose.
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: irie.one]
#14093985 - 03/09/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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irie.one said: Having a family is definitely a successful life.
What about a family with 10 kids living off welfare in a 2 bedroom apartment?
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Subconscious]
#14093995 - 03/09/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My dad's a pretty spacey dude and he told me that he's done some "crazy hippie shit". He almost seems as spaced as Ken Kesey.
I still live with the rents in a pretty big house with a hot-tub surrounded by woods, three floors, ja kn0.
My dad owns his own business
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Subconscious]
#14094016 - 03/09/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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irie.one said: Having a family is definitely a successful life.
What about a family with 10 kids living off welfare in a 2 bedroom apartment?
Yes this exactly. I would only feel right bringing a kid into the world if I knew beyond a doubt, without compromising my own dreams, that I could support them to lead an incredible, fulfilling, happy life. There are enough people alive right now living in the depths of fucking shit, so I'll focus on the alive one's first instead of hypothetical people
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irie.one
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: Subconscious]
#14094179 - 03/09/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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irie.one said: Having a family is definitely a successful life.
What about a family with 10 kids living off welfare in a 2 bedroom apartment?
That's my personal opinion, not one that applies to everyone. Since I'm just going off of what my vision of success is, I would respond to that with: If I was on welfare, I wouldn't consider myself to be successful. I know how I operate and when I'm in a financial crisis it causes stress and takes away from my happiness which would inhibit my idea of success. Then, trying to put food in a dozen mouths (including the hypothetical mother of these children) without any serious income, that's a failure in my opinion.
Sadly, so much of the United States (and even other parts of the world to an even greater extent) is stuck in this trap.
Ideally, I'd like to wait until I have financial security, whether it's from a career or owning my own business or however else I end up doing to generate income. I want to find my soul mate, and at a time when we feel ready to open our hearts to a couple of little ones I'd like to start a family. Success at this point would be to have the means to provide for my family and keep them happy and healthy and give them the best quality of life I can while maintaining my own happiness and high quality of life.
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Re: Psychedelics and Successful Living [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14094287 - 03/09/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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physicist said: I feel successful. Not because of money, but because of happiness. I am currently a PhD student in physics. I love mathematics and I love what I do. I also love psychedelics 
Also, none of my colleagues know about this side of me I don't know what they would think. I wonder if any of them are closet psychennoisseurs. I like to have some secrets. I don't have any children, and at this point, I feel like I am too selfish to be a good parent, so I probably won't have any. I love my wife and my job. So, I consider myself successful.
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