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TranscendingLife
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Yea, dude GLC, is what you were referring to, I'm assuming. It's awesome. I did it 3 weeks ago &, I know I'm going to catch some flack for this & no I don't have pics, my myc actually grew in sterile water. I know it's not supposed to, but there is def. more myc in my jar now than there was 2 weeks ago... ^ that's the only pic I have of it.
DAMN really? gota be tap water right?
distilled. Brought to a boil, left @ boil for 5 minutes poured into jar, PC'ed @ 15 PSI for 25 minutes...I just did a little experiment & made an LC jar & shot 60cc of LC into the quart. I'll take a pic tonight if I remember to. That pic is BEFORE I shot in the LC. I did that Saturday night when I was drunk...
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LightShedder said: And to whoever said polyfil isn't a contam barrier, I've used it on the above-mentioned 3000+ jars and yes it is indeed a great filter. BTW I re use the same polyfil batch after batch.
Works like a charm.
Grains are easier than BRf, I agree.
I said it's not a contam barrier, because it's not. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12543108
Read that...
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LightShedder
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Why would I wanna read somethng on the matter? My own eyes have seen literally thousands of colonized jars done with horribly old and rusty re-used polyfil lids. Nothing can convince me it doesn't work.
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LightShedder
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I understand there are many effective filters for jar lids. Polyfil is definitely one of them. I like them because they're cheap and easy to produce and they literally can be reused off into infinite without exchanging out the polyfil after each use. That's a claim I don't even see any other pro-polyfil growers make but believe me, it's a waste of time and effort to do anything to jars between uses other then remove any leftover whole grain chunks from the last round.
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feelthy
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My plan was to use the 50/50 horse shit and coir, but I've been starting to read a lot of nay saying in regards to coir. It seems that a lot of people believe pete moss is cheaper and works better than coir. Would most of you agree that coir is hands down better than straw?
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Re: Best of BULK [Re: feelthy]
#14091898 - 03/09/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I like about a 70/30 poo/coir mix. I've noticed better pinsets adding coir as opposed to straight manure. It's like adding coir to the substrate in a monotub makes it act like it's cased.
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TranscendingLife
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I'm not getting into this "debate" about polyfil. But I'll def. agree to always reuse your filter media. As for price, it's $12 for 12 100mm SFD that I cut to size to make 60-72 jar lids...That's .20 cents to .17 cents per lid filter That'll never have to be messed w/ again. RTV that shit down & let it rock...
If you're just starting bulk, go w/ Damion5050's elementary coir tek
Pasteurization HAS to be done to Hpoo. Also, the coir in an Hpoo substrate works as straw normally does in a traditional substrate.
Where'd you hear pete moss over coir? You sure that's bulk substrate & not Casing layer?
Coir + verm + a little gypsum is all I do...No problems yet, see:

I get 3 flushes then toss them. Got a sexy little mutant this time too. You can see him here
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OP why the fuck did you try to fruit BRF cakes in a wooden box.
and you think you're ready for grains?
goodluck bro...
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Re: Best of BULK [Re: k00laid]
#14096752 - 03/10/11 08:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OP why the fuck did you try to fruit BRF cakes in a wooden box.
Really? You don't understand yet why I tried growing cakes in a wood box? I wrote why like three times now, because I have to. They weren't growing literally inside a wooden crate.
They were growing in a plastic SGFC inside a huge wooden box made of house grade ply wood. It's a miniature fucking grow room dammit! There was no moisture close to the walls of the box, so it wasn't an issue. And there was plenty of humidity inside the tub. I needed more air exchange, I'm sure of it.
Take your nay saying and shove it. I hope Jake takes a magical shit on your pillow.
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Where'd you hear pete moss over coir? You sure that's bulk substrate & not Casing layer?
I thought about that right after I posted it too Tod. I think I was confusing casing with substrate. I think I just got overwhelmed with info. I was reading for a few hours straight and then everything got intense. lol
Do you even use a casing layer? I read a controlled experiment and the casing layer only yielded a small amount more of weight. Does a casing layer help prevent contamination?
I also read a little on chicken poo. I wouldn't think that would be good for any plant/fungi. What are some thoughts on the advantages of worm, chicken, and steer, or horse manure? Better, worse, uselessness...
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Re: Best of BULK [Re: feelthy]
#14096787 - 03/10/11 08:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Where'd you hear pete moss over coir? You sure that's bulk substrate & not Casing layer?
I thought about that right after I posted it too Tod. I think I was confusing casing with substrate. I think I just got overwhelmed with info. I was reading for a few hours straight and then everything got intense. lol
I feel ya on the information overload. It's easy to start getting terms confused, especially just starting out.
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Do you even use a casing layer? I read a controlled experiment and the casing layer only yielded a small amount more of weight. Does a casing layer help prevent contamination?
I don't case. Casing layers are for people w/ RH problems or that want to patch their substrates after picking. I just leave the holes. The tub I picked last night no longer has corners...Here's a pic before harvest: 
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feelthy said: I also read a little on chicken poo. I wouldn't think that would be good for any plant/fungi. What are some thoughts on the advantages of worm, chicken, and steer, or horse manure? Better, worse, uselessness...
Hpoo is the best. Chicken poo can be added as a supplement, but it's not needed. Don't use Cow poo. As for worm casings, IDK..I know people use them. However, all of those require PROPER pasteurization. I'd recommend starting w/ coir+verm+ a little gypsum ( I do between 1 & 2 tablespoons per bucket)...
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Re: Best of BULK [Re: feelthy]
#14096871 - 03/10/11 09:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'll be using horse poo for sure, because I'm fortunate enough to have a field of it near my house. My neighbors might react like WTF when I just start bagging their horse shit without any courteous notification. But still, now I have to know what's wrong with steer manure?
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Re: Best of BULK [Re: feelthy]
#14096910 - 03/10/11 09:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cows have too many stomachs & leech out too much nutrients.
You want field aged dry horse poo. Bag it up & plop it all on a big tarp & let it dry there.
You're going to need to add some kinda coir or straw to the poo as well, which I'm sure the people have plenty of if you're next to a field.
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feelthy
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Is coir any more effective than lets say hey?
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Re: Best of BULK [Re: feelthy]
#14098899 - 03/10/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What about donkey poo. I think it would b the same as HPoo
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Re: Best of BULK [Re: mabachko]
#14112593 - 03/13/11 12:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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what about zebra poo? im jokeing, op good luck dont get to frustrated im new to it and understand the information overload.
good luck in the future. and thanks all this thread helped me out a ton im getting a pc and moveing onto grains and mini monotubs.
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