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Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it?
#14086143 - 03/08/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm sorry if this is TLTR but any input on this would really help me out.
Put yourself in this hypothetical situation that I am about to describe. Let's try to keep this as hypothetical as possible, because it would be seriously impossible to explain my personal situation through words, in a way that would allow anyone else to really understand-- there is always more to a story. But I am VERY curious about how anyone else at all would approach this situation, so I seriously strongly appreciate any comments anyone can give on the subject.
K so, the hypothetical situation. Keep these details in mind:
You have a girlfriend, you guys have been in a long term relationship, have expressed much love and care for each other over the course of almost a year, the girl was your "first", and you both were each others FIRST person to truly be in love with and be in a true relationship with.
You decide to do mushrooms together for the first time. The trip takes place at your girlfriend's house. At some point in the trip you guys had gone your separate ways to do some exploring on your own. You were walking at the lake by her house and she was at her house. You get a call from her in a very frantic state, telling you over and over that she needs you, she really needs you, she is scared, she needs help, please hurry. When you get to her house, she is in a ball in bed, under the covers, obviously in need of you, in need of love, in need of company, in need of comfort. And tripping on mushrooms.
There is plenty of info of "how to handle someone in a bad trip." But the suggestions on those lists are extremely vague to encompass a wide variety of situations, many times on those lists it will say "if the person doesn't know you, tell them your name" etc. So what I'm looking for is an approach more specific to the girlfriend-boyfriend situation and dynamic.
Keep in mind, this girl is someone you truly love and respect. The first girl that you have ever truly loved and respected, or had any real feelings for at all. The relationship you both have is the biggest thing in both of your lives. Much sacrifice was made on both parts up until this point.
Any input and details on how you would approach this situation would be greatly appreciated. I'm in a very painful situation right now. More details will probably be given later.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14086146 - 03/08/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Benzos.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#14086155 - 03/08/11 11:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No other drugs are available in the moment.
(Sorry for not mentioning that.)
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14086170 - 03/08/11 11:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sex/massage. Get her mind off whatever negative thoughts she has stuck in her head.
Is this all going on right now?
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel] 3
#14086194 - 03/08/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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wrap her up in a cozy blanket, make her a cuppa tea and take her mind off it however you can, act casual about it dont act worried about it, you have to give off the buzz that her bad trip is nothing much at all and will be fixed in no time. if she sees you freakin' out about it its just gonna make her worse
failing that, give her a d-10 valium
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#14086197 - 03/08/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well this is where reverse negative thought patterns and vibes to gain a relaxing feeling that may help propell her trip to the positive. turn on her favorite music, if you have anything strong in vitamen c give it to her to drink. let her know your there and she is not by herself. tell her how physically appealing you think she is thats a big thought trigger in women! sing to her, chocolate maybe, if you have fire place lite it up and cuddle, those thing should bring her around.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: AlmostAsCoolAs]
#14086198 - 03/08/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Would try and talk her down, reinforce positive thoughts, sing to her, give her a massage, get her some fruit... just try and remind her that its just temporary and that the bad feelings will pass and good ones will come.
Just remind her she will be fine, that its all okay, that I love her and that in an hour or two she won't be tripping so hard, try and get her to focus on her breathing and to take deep breaths... to relax
dunno. I've had people freak out on me and I just try and work them through it
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14086210 - 03/08/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's really hard for any of us being currently sober to have an idea how we would react in that situation. It would really depend upon how much control your boyfriend has in a psychedelic state, or lack there of. If he's a seasoned tripper, or even a psychedelic super-hero like some of us he might have the words to move your frantic state towards a positive direction.
I think the best thing to do when someones having negative thought loops or finds themselves in a dark place during a trip is to remind them to let go. You have to let the ocean of chaos wash over you, and embrace acceptance. Everything was okay, is okay, and will forever be okay. Since you guys are emotionally entwined, it might help to reassure the girl with a positive physical sensation, like a hug or to hold your hand. Turn on some comforting music... Loose yourself in something beautiful...
It's all really subjective to the person and what they're going through though. You have to be willing to adapt while keeping your own thoughts in check. It's really easy to get freaked out when someone else is scared.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: thePatient]
#14086224 - 03/08/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just put on her favorite tunes, and cuddle with her. Offer her a massage; talk her through her anxieties. Then DSHSB.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14086236 - 03/08/11 11:52 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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GOod vibes all around..
show and tell her there is nothing to be scared of.
i also agree with the sex thing, sex brings my ass right out of a mushroom trip if i start getting all hot and sweaty. no joke.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14086242 - 03/08/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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put the dead on, and tell her to roll away the dew.
...and maybe a good dry smashing
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Spiderbaby] 3
#14086262 - 03/08/11 11:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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tell her your semen is the antidote.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: The Ecstatic]
#14086270 - 03/08/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You do what you do with any other middle age white woman. Throw benzos at it.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14086297 - 03/08/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said: Just put on her favorite tunes, and cuddle with her. Offer her a massage; talk her through her anxieties. Then DSHSB.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: withoutawire]
#14086298 - 03/08/11 12:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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A similar thing happened to me when I introduced a past girlfriend, I hugged her, turned on the lights, consoled her, gave her a dipenhydramine more for the psychological effect since I did not have any benzos, and watched T.V with her. When someone is focused on the T.V they forget about the various trip issues.
However I have found that I am probably not the best trip buddy, because I usually like to be totally quiet and in a ball meditating throughout my trip. Other people usually want to walk around and stuff.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14086313 - 03/08/11 12:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said: Just put on her favorite tunes, and cuddle with her. Offer her a massage; talk her through her anxieties. Then DSHSB.
this.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: nicechrisman]
#14086454 - 03/08/11 12:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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for notes:
always have benzos available if youre going to trip, for situations like that.
sex, music she likes, massage, cuddling, talking her out... all good options
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: ManianFH]
#14086752 - 03/08/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think the best thing you could do is talk to her in a very calm and soothing voice.
i dont think pushing sex on somebody freaking out in a mushroom trip would be a good idea, it would only probably exasperate the situation...
hold her, if she doesnt mind, and talk to her about anything, or ask her what she is thinking/whats going on in her head... tell her its going to be ok, it will end soon etc.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Slavaslave]
#14086842 - 03/08/11 01:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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knock her over the head with a glass bottle rendering her unconscious
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: zergroz] 2
#14086920 - 03/08/11 02:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So ice in the pussy and ass doesn't work for a bad trip?
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14086942 - 03/08/11 02:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do Some Heddy Stuff Because it would give her mind something else to think about. Like with a lava lamp.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: 4runner]
#14087015 - 03/08/11 02:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anunnakian said: So ice in the pussy and ass doesn't work for a bad trip?
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: nicechrisman]
#14087381 - 03/08/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nicechrisman said:
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anunnakian said: So ice in the pussy and ass doesn't work for a bad trip?

Neither does DSHSB It seems to make the trip worse. Who would have known. lmao
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14087432 - 03/08/11 03:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Reasure her that she is in a trip. The overwhelming feelings or hallucinations are all made up by the brain. It isn't real. And it WILL end no matter what.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14087465 - 03/08/11 03:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hate to sound like a dick but this is why I won't give girls mushrooms normally or any psyche for that matter. It's not that every single one can't handle it, I've just noticed most don't take them very well and end up having a horrible trip freaking out, and theres no way in hell I would be fine with putting someone else in that place. You've really got to consider what your getting her into dude. Just a little fun for you could be something very mentally harmful to her. But when you meet one that can handle her shit it's badass. What I would do since I would have already introduced her to it if she was okay with it I'd try and trip again though when I felt she was ready. An amazing experience tripping can really offset the bad ones, and probably make her feel quite a bit better. But you would have to make damn sure she had a good time. If she says no, I'd try and comfort her and do the best I could to make her feel better. Untless she pulls this http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/12954037
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: MLDSMDA]
#14089616 - 03/08/11 10:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lol one time my mom was having a weird moment in an otherwise good trip and eventually it was just me and her and she had that uncomfortable kinda bad tripping look on her face. I stopped what I was doing and looked at her dead in the eyes them moment it was just us two and went "mom, its time to wake up". she gets wide eyed and is like "..what".
"Mom we love you, youve been in this coma for too long, please wake up"
"she looks like shes just about to freak and then her boyfriend comes out and I just start dying from laughter. She brushed it off and was all "oh fuck you!" but she told me a few days later that she actually started to believe it for a second.
LOL bad shroom karma.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Hakim0777]
#14089647 - 03/08/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hahaha... that's soooo good.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Hakim0777]
#14089666 - 03/08/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hakim, you've had a psychedelic experience with your mother? I don't know why, but that just seems so incredible to me.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: thePatient]
#14089681 - 03/08/11 10:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pillows... chill music or entertaining television... soothing words.
I wouldn't count on anything though. IME talking anybody, male or female, out of a bad trip is very difficult indeed. The best you can do is to make sure they are comfortable, have easy access to food and water, and do not feel intimidated or frightened by you personally.
And if they talk to you about some type of outlandish, confabulated paranoia or anxiety, the best you can do there is simply not to acknowledge. Laugh at them for discussing it if you have to. I imagine that would work better than trying to reassure them.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: thePatient]
#14089703 - 03/08/11 10:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thePatient said: Hakim, you've had a psychedelic experience with your mother? I don't know why, but that just seems so incredible to me.
lol plenty of times. When I lived with my mom my friends would joke about coming over to kick it with her and not really me cause she was more interesting haha.
smoked salvia with her and my sis once, that was an experience holy shit.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Hakim0777]
#14093691 - 03/09/11 05:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would have grabbed an apple or a plant or something natural and told her "See this [item]? It represents everything good and pure. Hold it in your hands and look at it carefully. Let its energy flow through you." Then, I would have led her outside (and taken the blanket with me) and maybe gone near the lake (how close would depend on how far out she was).
Changing the setting should help a lot. If she was still feeling bad though, I would have her sit on the grass and wrapped the blanket around her (I've heard that having a heavy blanket wrapped around you helps you feel more grounded) and sat across from her. Then I would have told her "Hey, want to try something fun and relaxing? Hold my hands, close your eyes, and take deep breaths with me. Try to feel my energy and breathe with me as best you can." Take her hands (if she's comfortable with it. Also, make sure that you aren't saying this in a way that's like "OMG she's freaking out! I need to calm her down!" Be relaxed yourself) and do the exercise.
If she isn't comfortable with that, you could try laying on your backs side by side holding hands and looking at the sky, or just observing the outdoors. The key thing here is changing the setting, remaining calm, and not talking down to her.
I have no experience trip sitting and only have 4 or 5 trips under my belt but from what I have read on the topic, these sound like useful strategies.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14093736 - 03/09/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Slap a bitch.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
#14093737 - 03/09/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I never have to help people thru bad trips because I do the proper explaining before hand.
Why didnt your girlfriend know this kind of thing can happen? I swear everyone only wants the rainbows and puppies, and they dont realize by ignoring the dragons and monsters, they dont just go away.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: withoutawire]
#14093748 - 03/09/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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withoutawire said: You do what you do with any other middle age white woman. Throw benzos at it.
I'm going to quote myself here because this is the easiest thing to do. don't waste your time with apples and synergy unless you really want to. I personally am really over handling other people's shit when I am tripping and just give them bars so I can enjoy MY experience.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: withoutawire]
#14093779 - 03/09/11 05:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ask is she's really not okay, wait for five more minutes. Still not going alright i'll probably give her either amphetamines or a benzo, barbiturate, bit of GHB...
Though I think my friends / girlfriends would be a bit too "experienced" (you know what I mean) to still go completely bad.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14093785 - 03/09/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said: Just put on her favorite tunes, and cuddle with her. Offer her a massage; talk her through her anxieties. Then DSHSB.
Hahahah I was waiting for this
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: electricfeel]
#14093789 - 03/09/11 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You decide to do mushrooms 2C-T-2 together for the first time. The trip takes place at your girlfriend's house. At some point in the trip you guys had gone your separate ways to do some exploring on your own. You were walking at the lake by her house and she was at her house. You get a call from her in a very frantic state, telling you over and over that she needs you, she really needs you, she is scared, she needs help, please hurry. When you get to her house, she is in a ball, naked in bed, under the covers, obviously in need of you, in need of love, in need of company, in need of comfort. And tripping on mushrooms.
Essentially this happened to me and my girl. Funny how u nailed all those details about the lake, her house, ball in bed etc cause its exactly how it happened. Well apart from the corrections that is.
What I did was to give her a xanax pill. You said no other drugs are available so just sitting next to her, comforting her, smilling and laughing helped. Then had sex and the trip went all good
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
#14093809 - 03/09/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You nailed the bad trip right out of her bro
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#14094079 - 03/09/11 06:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: You nailed the bad trip right out of her bro 
Lol... You guys realize that the OP is a woman right? She's probably trying to understand how her boyfriend reacted a certain way on a tip they had together. The seemingly cautious tone of the OP leads me to believe that she had a difficult experience.
Or maybe I'm looking too far into it. Either way, suggesting things like DSHSB and having sex doesn't seem like a very understanding or caring way of handling the situation. I don't know about you guys, but if I was scared and in distress, I wouldn't want the person who I'm counting on to look out for me say "hey, I know! let me put my dick inside of you!"
That's the thing when you trip with other people and why you have to be careful who you decide to share your experiences with. You need to be prepared to help that person if he or she is in a rough place, not selfishly abandon them. If you are both new to it, it's one thing (start with low doses!), and if one of you is more experienced you need to help guide that person, which includes making sure they are educated and by selecting appropriate doses for both of you. If you are both experienced, you know this stuff already (and in a much more intimate way).
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
#14094094 - 03/09/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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HOT SHOWER & ALCOHOL (preferebly wine)
worked for me after doing a mushroom + cocaine trip
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Bodhi of Ankou
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
#14094140 - 03/09/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pyl91 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said: You nailed the bad trip right out of her bro 
Lol... You guys realize that the OP is a woman right? She's probably trying to understand how her boyfriend reacted a certain way on a tip they had together. The seemingly cautious tone of the OP leads me to believe that she had a difficult experience.
Or maybe I'm looking too far into it. Either way, suggesting things like DSHSB and having sex doesn't seem like a very understanding or caring way of handling the situation. I don't know about you guys, but if I was scared and in distress, I wouldn't want the person who I'm counting on to look out for me say "hey, I know! let me put my dick inside of you!"
That's the thing when you trip with other people and why you have to be careful who you decide to share your experiences with. You need to be prepared to help that person if he or she is in a rough place, not selfishly abandon them. If you are both new to it, it's one thing (start with low doses!), and if one of you is more experienced you need to help guide that person, which includes making sure they are educated and by selecting appropriate doses for both of you. If you are both experienced, you know this stuff already (and in a much more intimate way).
Somebody needs to make a subtly sarcastic font.
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mellowparty
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
#14094162 - 03/09/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pyl91 said: Or maybe I'm looking too far into it. Either way, suggesting things like DSHSB and having sex doesn't seem like a very understanding or caring way of handling the situation. I don't know about you guys, but if I was scared and in distress, I wouldn't want the person who I'm counting on to look out for me say "hey, I know! let me put my dick inside of you!"
I merely shared my experience and its auspicious outcome. Its not like I raped her or DSHSB. I was sitting on the floor cause she was all naked (said that clothes were feeling tight ) in bed and she needed space due to involuntary muscle movement (like repetitive leg/arm twitching).
I just gave her my last benzo while minding my own business following fractals on the carpet. Then she asked me to come to bed with her. Then we started hugging and kissing/laughing and then we started fucking. It was a mutual consensus thing.
There is no single way to handle these situations. It depends on the person whos having the bad trip, the more experienced companion and the dosage/compound.
There is one thing that seems to help a shitload though and its called BENZODIAZEPINES
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#14094169 - 03/09/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This is another thing. People think 5 trips is experience. I've had over 50 trips and I do not in any sense consider myself experienced. When I get to 500 trips, if I think I'm expereinced, some please tell me how much of a fucking tool I'm being.
even at 100+ trips, you will still experience things you never have, and never could have thought possible. People think they have the best grasp on these things, when honestly they dont. YOu have to expect some utter fucking weirdness, you have to know that you wont know what's going on. I dont know why you wouldnt go into a trip aware of that, but some people do, and then it sucks.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
#14094211 - 03/09/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well my experience is over 9000 so I have the final word here
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
#14094236 - 03/09/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Get back in the party van my friend
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
#14094244 - 03/09/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Also I wont lecture, but I'll just say holding onto a bad trip once it's over is like insisting on keeping the cast on your broken arm which is now healed. Just let it go, and focus on no breaking your arm next time, ie. becoming better educated and prepared for what a psychedelic journey really is.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
#14094286 - 03/09/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lesson to be learned from this thread:
Don't ask for serious advice on the Shroomery.
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pyl91

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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
#14094314 - 03/09/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mellowparty said:
I merely shared my experience and its auspicious outcome. Its not like I raped her or DSHSB. I was sitting on the floor cause she was all naked (said that clothes were feeling tight ) in bed and she needed space due to involuntary muscle movement (like repetitive leg/arm twitching).
I just gave her my last benzo while minding my own business following fractals on the carpet. Then she asked me to come to bed with her. Then we started hugging and kissing/laughing and then we started fucking. It was a mutual consensus thing.
There is no single way to handle these situations. It depends on the person whos having the bad trip, the more experienced companion and the dosage/compound.
There is one thing that seems to help a shitload though and its called BENZODIAZEPINES 
Haha, no worries man, that wasn't directed at anyone in particular (even if I did quote Bodhi of Ankou), it was just my frustration at the general attitude in the thread. Sarcasm isn't going to help.
Benzos abort the trip, but not everyone has them or wants to use them. A lot of people say that working through difficult trips is extremely rewarding.
As for the experience, I think Azure Essence has a good point but as part of your trip preparation you should have a general idea of how to help handle difficult trips. Who knows, maybe you'll be in that situation and you should try to learn how you can help yourself instead of relying on other people. I wouldn't blame anyone who reads up on it but finds they don't have the capacity to help during a trip though.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
#14094361 - 03/09/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I had something similar happen. The relationship wasn't as close and it was on 5-MeO-DIPT rather than shrooms. We both took a big dose (way too big for the experience we had to that point, was a mindblowing trip made even more so in hindsight with all the emotions involved). Her trip went bad and she got stuck thinking up negative shit from the past which cycled into issues about her health and looks and so on. It took about all the effort I could muster to keep it together myself but I tried to be as comforting as possible. Holding her and letting her cry on my shoulder and attempt to get beyond the negativity. That's all I knew to do. I think having a deeper relationship and knowing more about each other would help here.
If I had it to do over again, once she calmed down a bit, I'd try to change the setting as quickly as possible. In your case maybe try to get her to go down by the lake. Or put some music on she likes. Something along those lines. I figure it would help get more on the same wavelength and move things in a more positive direction.
Overall though, I'd suggest just being as supportive and comforting and loving as possible. I know that's not really specific but the specifics would change depending on personalities.
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
#14096100 - 03/10/11 01:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Azure Essence said: Get back in the party van my friend
sure thing brah
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Sophistic Radiance
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
#14096337 - 03/10/11 03:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't get this thread
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#14096360 - 03/10/11 04:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What is it exactly that you dont get?
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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
#14096435 - 03/10/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I was gonna say... u might be the best lovers, best boy and girl friend in the world... but that doesnt mean you are prapared and can withstund the force of psychedelics, especially since it is you first try
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