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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
    #14094140 - 03/09/11 06:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Bodhi of Ankou said:
You nailed the bad trip right out of her bro :super:




Lol... You guys realize that the OP is a woman right? She's probably trying to understand how her boyfriend reacted a certain way on a tip they had together. The seemingly cautious tone of the OP leads me to believe that she had a difficult experience.

Or maybe I'm looking too far into it. Either way, suggesting things like DSHSB and having sex doesn't seem like a very understanding or caring way of handling the situation. I don't know about you guys, but if I was scared and in distress, I wouldn't want the person who I'm counting on to look out for me say "hey, I know! let me put my dick inside of you!"

That's the thing when you trip with other people and why you have to be careful who you decide to share your experiences with. You need to be prepared to help that person if he or she is in a rough place, not selfishly abandon them. If you are both new to it, it's one thing (start with low doses!), and if one of you is more experienced you need to help guide that person, which includes making sure they are educated and by selecting appropriate doses for both of you. If you are both experienced, you know this stuff already (and in a much more intimate way).




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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
    #14094162 - 03/09/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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pyl91 said:
Or maybe I'm looking too far into it. Either way, suggesting things like DSHSB and having sex doesn't seem like a very understanding or caring way of handling the situation. I don't know about you guys, but if I was scared and in distress, I wouldn't want the person who I'm counting on to look out for me say "hey, I know! let me put my dick inside of you!"




:dudewtf: I merely shared my experience and its auspicious outcome. Its not like I raped her or DSHSB. I was sitting on the floor cause she was all naked (said that clothes were feeling tight :confused:) in bed and she needed space due to involuntary muscle movement (like repetitive leg/arm twitching).

I just gave her my last benzo while minding my own business following fractals on the carpet. Then she asked me to come to bed with her. Then we started hugging and kissing/laughing and then we started fucking. It was a mutual consensus thing.

There is no single way to handle these situations. It depends on the person whos having the bad trip, the more experienced companion and the dosage/compound.

There is one thing that seems to help a shitload though and its called BENZODIAZEPINES :bigyesnod:


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
    #14094169 - 03/09/11 06:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This is another thing. People think 5 trips is experience. I've had over 50 trips and I do not in any sense consider myself experienced. When I get to 500 trips, if I think I'm expereinced, some please tell me how much of a fucking tool I'm being.

even at 100+ trips, you will still experience things you never have, and never could have thought possible. People think they have the best grasp on these things, when honestly they dont. YOu have to expect some utter fucking weirdness, you have to know that you wont know what's going on. I dont know why you wouldnt go into a trip aware of that, but some people do, and then it sucks.


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14094211 - 03/09/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well my experience is over 9000 :gameover: so I have the final word here :lol:


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14094236 - 03/09/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Get back in the party van my friend


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14094244 - 03/09/11 06:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Also I wont lecture, but I'll just say holding onto a bad trip once it's over is like insisting on keeping the cast on your broken arm which is now healed. Just let it go, and focus on no breaking your arm next time, ie. becoming better educated and prepared for what a psychedelic journey really is.


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14094286 - 03/09/11 06:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Lesson to be learned from this thread:

Don't ask for serious advice on the Shroomery.


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14094314 - 03/09/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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:dudewtf: I merely shared my experience and its auspicious outcome. Its not like I raped her or DSHSB. I was sitting on the floor cause she was all naked (said that clothes were feeling tight :confused:) in bed and she needed space due to involuntary muscle movement (like repetitive leg/arm twitching).

I just gave her my last benzo while minding my own business following fractals on the carpet. Then she asked me to come to bed with her. Then we started hugging and kissing/laughing and then we started fucking. It was a mutual consensus thing.

There is no single way to handle these situations. It depends on the person whos having the bad trip, the more experienced companion and the dosage/compound.

There is one thing that seems to help a shitload though and its called BENZODIAZEPINES :bigyesnod:




Haha, no worries man, that wasn't directed at anyone in particular (even if I did quote Bodhi of Ankou), it was just my frustration at the general attitude in the thread. Sarcasm isn't going to help.

Benzos abort the trip, but not everyone has them or wants to use them. A lot of people say that working through difficult trips is extremely rewarding.

As for the experience, I think Azure Essence has a good point but as part of your trip preparation you should have a general idea of how to help handle difficult trips. Who knows, maybe you'll be in that situation and you should try to learn how you can help yourself instead of relying on other people. I wouldn't blame anyone who reads up on it but finds they don't have the capacity to help during a trip though.


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: pyl91]
    #14094361 - 03/09/11 07:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had something similar happen.  The relationship wasn't as close and it was on 5-MeO-DIPT rather than shrooms.  We both took a big dose (way too big for the experience we had to that point, was a mindblowing trip made even more so in hindsight with all the emotions involved).  Her trip went bad and she got stuck thinking up negative shit from the past which cycled into issues about her health and looks and so on.  It took about all the effort I could muster to keep it together myself but I tried to be as comforting as possible.  Holding her and letting her cry on my shoulder and attempt to get beyond the negativity.  That's all I knew to do.  I think having a deeper relationship and knowing more about each other would help here. 

If I had it to do over again, once she calmed down a bit, I'd try to change the setting as quickly as possible.  In your case maybe try to get her to go down by the lake.  Or put some music on she likes.  Something along those lines.  I figure it would help get more on the same wavelength and move things in a more positive direction.

Overall though, I'd suggest just being as supportive and comforting and loving as possible.  I know that's not really specific but the specifics would change depending on personalities.


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Azure Essence]
    #14096100 - 03/10/11 01:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Azure Essence said:
Get back in the party van my friend



:partykid: sure thing brah :rockon:


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14096337 - 03/10/11 03:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't get this thread :confused:


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14096360 - 03/10/11 04:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What is it exactly that you dont get?


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Re: Your girlfriend is having a bad mushroom trip. How would you handle it? [Re: mellowparty]
    #14096435 - 03/10/11 05:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I was gonna say... u might be the best lovers, best boy and girl friend in the world... but that doesnt mean you are prapared and can withstund the force of psychedelics, especially since it is you first try :rasta:


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