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[NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony
    #14085324 - 03/08/11 06:04 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ryan Santanna smoked salvia before leaping to his death from Roosevelt Island balcony
March 8, 2011 - nydailynews.com

A 21-year-old man who apparently leaped to his death from a Roosevelt Island balcony was smoking salvia just before he jumped, police sources, his family and his friends said.

Ryan Santanna, 21, was hanging out on his bedroom balcony with an ex-girlfriend, Benazir Balani, smoking the hallucinogenic plant, Balani said.

She said he lay on the balcony on his stomach, pretending to swim like an animal.

"He stared at me but it was like he wasn't seeing me; it was just a blank stare," she said. Then he jumped from the 15th-floor balcony.

"He just ran and hopped over the fence," said Balani, 20, of Queens. "He had no idea who he was, what he was doing."

Santanna was a film production student at the Art Institute of New York City set to graduate in the spring. His father, Lauro Santanna, 42, said classmates will finish a film he was making.

"I want people to know he was a happy person," Santanna's weeping mother, Vera Cordiero Santanna, 50, said.

Ryan Santanna's sister, Carolyn, 17, said she was in her room studying when Balani rushed in to tell her what happened. "I looked down and he was there," Carolyn said. "I ran down the stairs. I was the first one to get to him. Then everyone was surrounding him."

Santanna had no history of mental problems, police sources said. His death is being investigated as a possible suicide, police said. An initial autopsy was inconclusive, according to the city medical examiner.

Legal in New York, salvia, a member of the mint family, provides a quick, potent high. Miley Cyrus was caught on video smoking it in December.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie]
    #14085358 - 03/08/11 06:27 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Unlucky!

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: STR80180]
    #14085387 - 03/08/11 06:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I hope you guys have stock-pilled on cuttings cause there's no way salvia will remain legal for long after bullshit like this.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: WingedWatcher]
    #14085391 - 03/08/11 06:48 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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"He stared at me but it was like he wasn't seeing me; it was just a blank stare," she said. Then he jumped from the 15th-floor balcony.

"He just ran and hopped over the fence," said Balani, 20, of Queens. "He had no idea who he was, what he was doing."





...Great trip sitter....

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie]
    #14085404 - 03/08/11 06:59 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Idiot.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: robbyberto]
    #14085568 - 03/08/11 08:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Hmm,

my rule of thumbs when doing these excursions:
Stay on ground floor...

Or as my hero Bill used to say:
Quit ruining it for others. If you think you can fly try taking of from the ground first. You don't see ducks lining up to catch an elevator to fly south...

Guess he was 'unlucky', but then again, this accident was easily prevented.

Maybe they should put a warning on packages:
This will make you think you can fly, please use only on ground level :-p

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: shthd]
    #14085630 - 03/08/11 08:26 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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shthd said:
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"He stared at me but it was like he wasn't seeing me; it was just a blank stare," she said. Then he jumped from the 15th-floor balcony.

"He just ran and hopped over the fence," said Balani, 20, of Queens. "He had no idea who he was, what he was doing."





...Great trip sitter....



She practically murdered him by letting him go on the balcony.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: siriusmushroom]
    #14085653 - 03/08/11 08:34 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

yea no crap, it just shows lack of drug education... those mdma rave guidline sheets shouldn't be the only of its kind that should be for every drug... just because someone is over 18 doesn't mean there responsible enough let alone smart enough to ingest powefull hallucinogens. There should definatly for salvia include written and verbal disclamer from store clerk upon the purchase of it.  It really boils down to lack of responsiblity of the sellers...and those piss poor trip sitters he was with.  But, to there defense my buddy who is experienced just wasn't with salvia out of no where began to walk off our other friends porch about 4 steps i was up as fast as i could and caught him as he was falling face first toward concrete... he tensed up real bad and started freaking out in circles again on the porch so me and other buddy just swarm hugged him until he was under controll... after it was all over he described it as an out of body experience, were all like."no shit"


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Grungeman17]
    #14085664 - 03/08/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

i mean my friend got up fast on a tangent... so these guys just didn't responed to his condish fast enough... if i wouldn't have... broken bones... nuff said.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie]
    #14085781 - 03/08/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Everyone, there is a poll on the news article. Click the link and vote. You might have to register to do it. Also, email the paper and try to get some of our opinions out there. "bpaddock@nydailynews.com"


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: destructo_low]
    #14085802 - 03/08/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Salvia should only be done in the comfort or a living room where there are no firearms, moving vehicles or long drops of balcony ledges.

I know for a fact when I do salvia especially the more concentrated stuff I have little to NO control over what I do for the next 5-15 minutes

I wonder what this guy was seeing as his trip that made him jump over, and I wonder what he was seeing on the way down, poor guy probably lived 10 lifetimes before he hit the ground

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: 3Cajun1Mo8]
    #14085825 - 03/08/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I wonder what this guy was seeing as his trip that made him jump over, and I wonder what he was seeing on the way down, poor guy probably lived 10 lifetimes before he hit the ground




ah the amount of psychedelic experience in this statement speaks leagues.  respect.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: 3Cajun1Mo8] * 2
    #14085829 - 03/08/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

No. He probably wasn't aware at all on the way down. He wouldn't have gone over if he had any grounding in reality. Or if his ex wasn't an idiot. Or if he wasn't an idiot. Idiots. At least saliva sucks anyway.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: robbyberto]
    #14085878 - 03/08/11 09:53 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Jockin John C said:
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3Cajun1Mo8 said:
I wonder what this guy was seeing as his trip that made him jump over, and I wonder what he was seeing on the way down, poor guy probably lived 10 lifetimes before he hit the ground




ah the amount of psychedelic experience in this statement speaks leagues.  respect.




Is that sarcasm or not? lol sorry I cant tell

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No. He probably wasn't aware at all on the way down. He wouldn't have gone over if he had any grounding in reality. Or if his ex wasn't an idiot. Or if he wasn't an idiot. Idiots. At least saliva sucks anyway.




Have you ever one salvia? its very intense. Of course he himself wasnt mentally aware he jumped the ledge, but he was somewhere in his own mind seeing a vision of something and thats what I would like to be able to see although its impossible.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie]
    #14085888 - 03/08/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Salvia often seems to send me reeling in odd directions  if I do it standing up and walking around, I can't imagine why the fuck anyone would do this on a balcony....


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: veggie] * 1
    #14085892 - 03/08/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

salvia is lame

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Flop Johnson]
    #14085987 - 03/08/11 10:25 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I've actually had some very cool trips on salvia.

I've never taken it unless I was sitting on the floor or a bed though.

The whole "leaning out the window smoking salvia thing is:facepalm:.

I bet they think it's "the drugs fault for making him go crazy", instead of their fault for doing such a strong drug and letting him "lean out over the balcony like an animal".

This is the angle they always try and take on psychedelic drugs. "OMG people take them and then think they can fly."

I bet for every single psychedelic falling death there are a hundred drunk fell off the roof deaths.


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Heffy]
    #14086022 - 03/08/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

We lost a moron.

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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: Heffy]
    #14086109 - 03/08/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Heffy said:

I bet for every single psychedelic falling death there are a hundred drunk fell off the roof deaths.




This.

And the the fact that doing salvia on a balcony makes him and his sitter retarded. She will have to live with that forever.


I don't care if they ban salvia, that shit is too weird/out of control, like Datura almost. I never got any enlightenment from it and it always leaves me feeling aggressive/irritable.

Just so long as they don't make shrooms illegal, then we could never get them...


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Re: [NY] 21-year-old man smoked salvia before leaping to his death from balcony [Re: egodeathflux]
    #14086111 - 03/08/11 11:10 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Heffy said:


I bet they think it's "the drugs fault for making him go crazy", instead of their fault for doing such a strong drug and letting him "lean out over the balcony like an animal".




smoking Salvia on a balcony is about as dangerous if not more then chugging everclear behind the wheel of a vehicle

Edited by 3Cajun1Mo8 (03/08/11 12:00 PM)

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