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Droz
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Questioning vs. Answering.
#14085520 - 03/08/11 07:54 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Questioning life can easily be answered with "truths".. Thus believing in the truth and you stop questioning.
But what of the truths? People share them everyday, yet are criticized by others as being false, yet still holding on.
I think truths are something personal that cannot be explained to others, but some can. We all know we are human, we all know we can't go outside what the brain creates, we all know we have a thing called imagination. Is it so wrong to give in to what you consider a part of your imagination. Idealism is best felt with ideas that can be shared and no longer criticized.
Reality has a way of showing you mentally what is out there. Coming to a sense of logical truth out weighs all the questioning.
Truth is we are going to die one day and some say you spend your entire life trying to find out who you are. Do you think that those who always question reality and existence are just as well off as those who find truth?
A little on the subject, let's discuss the questions we have about life.
Then let's discuss the truths we know that are true.
Hey even throw in those truths that are always criticized.
Discuss.
Droz
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Droz]
#14086372 - 03/08/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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We only 'know' what we choose to believe. To believe is stagnation.
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Truth is we are going to die one day and some say you spend your entire life trying to find out who you are. Do you think that those who always question reality and existence are just as well off as those who find truth?
Seeking the truth is a response to a potential problem/problems that may arise in the future, in relation to our thoughts about what does/doesn't exist.
For example, if we seek to find out whether god exists - we do so with the intention of finding out what our actions trully mean.
If god exists, we have to change the way we act. If god does not exist we can keep the way we act.
The reason being that the meaning behind our actions changes, in relation to the truth about god.
So the truth then is in response to a potential problem that you may be causing for yourself through your actions/thoughts/emotions that usually arises out of cultural upbringing.
One of the biggest reason behind us seeking the truth behind god,for example, is because god is an entrenched concept in our culture that with some simple logic is unfullfilled. However, the questio still lingers - if 'the religious god' didn't create the universe, who did?
This is where the search for truth gets tricky and where cultural upbringing and a persons learning environment will shape the outcome of the truth for that person.
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I believe in true Truths. Those are the best kind.
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In my opinion i'd say truth would come with some sort of scientific bases on reality.
Something we can hear, see, touch, smell, taste.
Then there is the mind's eye, which is the tool for all of these and more.
What the eyes see, the brain sees.
Being grounded will bring in more objective truths.
May science prevail.
Droz
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OrgoneConclusion said: I believe in true Truths. Those are the best kind.
There are even more truthful truths than that I'm pretty sure.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Icelander]
#14087480 - 03/08/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Watch the Sanchez/Kampmann fight and give me your opinion as to the decision.
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Got a link?
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Icelander]
#14087651 - 03/08/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Droz]
#14090656 - 03/09/11 01:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Droz said: May science prevail.
Over what?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Poid]
#14093438 - 03/09/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Over all.
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Droz]
#14093473 - 03/09/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Droz said: Over all.
What if "science" wants to put a microchip in your hand or in your brain and monitor your every move?
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: HippieChick8] 1
#14093491 - 03/09/11 04:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Science doesn't want anything, this has been proven by science.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Poid] 1
#14093514 - 03/09/11 04:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid said: Science doesn't want anything, this has been proven by science.
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Droz]
#14093703 - 03/09/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Droz said: Questioning life can easily be answered with "truths".. Thus believing in the truth and you stop questioning.
But what of the truths? People share them everyday, yet are criticized by others as being false, yet still holding on.
I think truths are something personal that cannot be explained to others, but some can. We all know we are human, we all know we can't go outside what the brain creates, we all know we have a thing called imagination. Is it so wrong to give in to what you consider a part of your imagination. Idealism is best felt with ideas that can be shared and no longer criticized.
Reality has a way of showing you mentally what is out there. Coming to a sense of logical truth out weighs all the questioning.
Truth is we are going to die one day and some say you spend your entire life trying to find out who you are. Do you think that those who always question reality and existence are just as well off as those who find truth?
A little on the subject, let's discuss the questions we have about life.
Then let's discuss the truths we know that are true.
Hey even throw in those truths that are always criticized.
Discuss.
Droz
"Truth" is a relative term that is different for each and every one of us. Whatever we choose to believe becomes a truth. For Christians, God is a truth. For me, God provides no answers, and I've made it a truth for myself that there is no God in the religious sense. Different for everyone.
Being open-minded is the best way to try to understand the truths that others have created. Maybe they won't become truths for you, but understanding what their thoughts are can assist you in deciding what your individual truths are.
Reality contains a lot of truths that are universally accepted such as the laws of nature, weather, etc. Their existence is proof of a truth. But when it comes to personal beliefs is when a truth can differ from person to person.
For me, rather than spend my life trying to find out who I am, I'd prefer to use the phrase "explore who I am," and simply observe myself and how I react in situations, forming new truths about me. The use of psychedelics makes this process much easier, but even in day-to-day life I can compartmentalize my thoughts to be aware of how I'm handling a situation, in an observational kind of way.
Those who constantly question reality and existence probably have a difficult time creating truths, or the truths they form could be considered false truths by the standards of the majority of the population. Reality and existence is truth, imagination is subjective thus different for everyone.
Some items I hold to be truths that can be disputed: The existence evolution, that there is no "God" (perhaps there is a higher being, but nothing anyone can describe), that the universe is infinite therefore anything could be possible in different dimensions (I can't say that this is entirely a truth for me just yet, but it's the direction I'm leaning until further research can be done), and the fact that humans can and will eventually make planet Earth uninhabitable. Please share your opinions on these.
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: irie.one]
#14096662 - 03/10/11 08:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great post irie.one.
The universe has much to offer.
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Re: Questioning vs. Answering. [Re: Droz]
#14101080 - 03/10/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Droz said: In my opinion i'd say truth would come with some sort of scientific bases on reality.
Something we can hear, see, touch, smell, taste.
Then there is the mind's eye, which is the tool for all of these and more.
What the eyes see, the brain sees.
Being grounded will bring in more objective truths.
May science prevail.
Droz
I went to a talk on quantum physics tonight by this guy.
One thing he was very clear about was that "hidden variable" theories of explaining quantum mechanics, which assume that certain properties exist prior to measurement, have been widely rejected by experimentation. The results of many experiments fundamentally cannot be known until the experiment is carried out. This strongly suggests the Universe is not entirely deterministic , and sets serious limits on what we can refer to as "objective" truth.
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