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iSHACKA
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How long untill cool
#14083064 - 03/07/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have 5 jars steaming right now, PF TEK
its 9:03 right now and they are done steaming at 10:10
I always wait overnight but id like to get this out of the way tonight if possible. Can i put them in a cold room to speed it up? How many hours would it be safe to wait and not risk it being too hot
Respect
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curiousgeorge91
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Re: How long untill cool [Re: iSHACKA]
#14083198 - 03/07/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldnt recommend speed cooling in a cold room, it could cause condensation and ruin your dry verm layer. Everybody says to cool over night, but i just wait till they are COOL to the touch (usually 4-5hrs) and knock them up, and its been working. The key is cool to the touch, not hot, warm, room temp: COOL to the touch. You have to assume that however the glass feels, the contents are likely warmer...
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HTD
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Cool to the touch is fine, if they feel warm they are higher than body temp with is almost 99 degrees. Thermal death for spores (130 for 30+ minutes) is not far off so don't inject into warm/hot jars.
Edited by HTD (03/07/11 07:30 PM)
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iSHACKA
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Re: How long untill cool [Re: HTD]
#14083225 - 03/07/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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IM not gonna risk it, cant risk it lol
I need these puppies
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curiousgeorge91
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Re: How long untill cool [Re: iSHACKA]
#14083235 - 03/07/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
iSHACKA said: IM not gonna risk it, cant risk it lol
I need these puppies
great plan, it would be real dumb to rush this to save a few hours
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Base Icks



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Re: How long untill cool [Re: HTD]
#14083255 - 03/07/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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HTD said: Cool to the touch is fine, if they feel warm they are higher than body temp with is almost 99 degrees. Thermal death for spores (130 for 30+ minutes) is not far off so don't inject into warm/hot jars.
Source of info?
I've always heard that 106F was spore and myc death temp.
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iSHACKA
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Re: How long untill cool [Re: Base Icks]
#14083272 - 03/07/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i think given the consistancy of the cakes it would take a considerable time to cool down. 5+ hours IMO
I thought maybe the cold room was an option but I didnt think about the condensation.
Tomorrow morn it is.
At least tonight my tek went smooth. Last night was my first attempt and i forgot to wipe the jars and tape holes during steaming.
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curiousgeorge91
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Re: How long untill cool [Re: iSHACKA]
#14083292 - 03/07/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Taping holes= not too big of a deal if u use foil (although insurance is never a bad thing)
Forgetting to wipe= no no. not a deal breaker, but expect a few contams.
Best of luck, and if u follow everything else to a T, youll be good to go!
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HTD
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Re: How long untill cool [Re: Base Icks]
#14083462 - 03/07/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Source of info?
I've always heard that 106F was spore and myc death temp.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13684624#13684624
I believe spores are a bit tougher than mycelium. The mycelium will die above the temp you mentioned but spores themselves are a bit stronger.
Edited by HTD (03/07/11 08:22 PM)
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