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OfflineiSHACKA
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How long untill cool
    #14083064 - 03/07/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have 5 jars steaming right now, PF TEK

its 9:03 right now and they are done steaming at 10:10

I always wait overnight but id like to get this out of the way tonight if possible.  Can i put them in a cold room to speed it up?  How many hours would it be safe to wait and not risk it being too hot


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: iSHACKA]
    #14083198 - 03/07/11 07:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldnt recommend speed cooling in a cold room, it could cause condensation and ruin your dry verm layer.  Everybody says to cool over night, but i just wait till they are COOL to the touch (usually 4-5hrs) and knock them up, and its been working. The key is cool to the touch, not hot, warm, room temp: COOL to the touch. You have to assume that however the glass feels, the contents are likely warmer...:shrug:


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: curiousgeorge91]
    #14083214 - 03/07/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Cool to the touch is fine, if they feel warm they are higher than body temp with is almost 99 degrees. Thermal death for spores (130 for 30+ minutes) is not far off so don't inject into warm/hot jars.


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: HTD]
    #14083225 - 03/07/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

IM not gonna risk it, cant risk it lol

I need these puppies


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: iSHACKA]
    #14083235 - 03/07/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

iSHACKA said:
IM not gonna risk it, cant risk it lol

I need these puppies




great plan, it would be real dumb to rush this to save a few hours


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: HTD]
    #14083255 - 03/07/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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HTD said:
Cool to the touch is fine, if they feel warm they are higher than body temp with is almost 99 degrees. Thermal death for spores (130 for 30+ minutes) is not far off so don't inject into warm/hot jars.



Source of info?

I've always heard that 106F was spore and myc death temp.


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: Base Icks]
    #14083272 - 03/07/11 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i think given the consistancy of the cakes it would take a considerable time to cool down.  5+ hours IMO

I thought maybe the cold room was an option but I didnt think about the condensation.

Tomorrow morn it is.


At least tonight my tek went smooth.  Last night was my first attempt and i forgot to wipe the jars and tape holes during steaming.


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: iSHACKA]
    #14083292 - 03/07/11 07:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Taping holes= not too big of a deal if u use foil (although insurance is never a bad thing)

Forgetting to wipe= no no. not a deal breaker, but expect a few contams.

Best of luck, and if u follow everything else to a T, youll be good to go!


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Re: How long untill cool [Re: Base Icks]
    #14083462 - 03/07/11 08:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Source of info?

I've always heard that 106F was spore and myc death temp.





http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13684624#13684624

I believe spores are a bit tougher than mycelium. The mycelium will die above the temp you mentioned but spores themselves are a bit stronger.


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