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amilibertine
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14100160 - 03/10/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pallies are not living in open air prisons. They are not denied basic human rights. They are not murdered constantly, except by each other. They are not innocent since they elected their government which fires the rockets.
  

     
Sure looks cozy to me.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: amilibertine]
#14100192 - 03/10/11 07:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Religion...
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Poid]
#14100216 - 03/10/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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On all sides insane.
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." – Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 in N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Poid]
#14100218 - 03/10/11 07:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does the Great Wall of China imprison anyone? Say, did you know that the Egyptians close the border with Gaza Strip. True story.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: zappaisgod]
#14100242 - 03/10/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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 good luck with life zappa
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: dynomite] 1
#14100272 - 03/10/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What? It looked like Detroit.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: zappaisgod] 1
#14100392 - 03/10/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Does the Great Wall of China imprison anyone? Say, did you know that the Egyptians close the border with Gaza Strip. True story.
Really, you're comparing that to the great wall of china. Really?
I suppose I can build a wall like that around your house?
I mean, I'll let medicine, food, and water in sometimes, I promise. Also, every now and then I'll have my men in my guard towers launch a rocket at your house from time to time. I promise I will building supplies back in so you can start over. Wait a minute.....did you just fire a bb gun over my wall???? This must not stand you filthy goyim, I suppose we'll have to kill you...I mean, you could've had the easy life. Just chilling inside my wall and every now and then I'll let you have some polluted water to drink, hell I'll even let you spray paint the inside of my wall for me since it's kinda bland. But these bb gun attacks must not stand, I mean you could've hit that field over there....that's MY field.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Icelander]
#14100721 - 03/10/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Does the Great Wall of China imprison anyone?
Were the Chinese relocated to an area that didn't belong to them by people who didn't own it? No. 
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zappaisgod said: What? It looked like Detroit.

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On all sides insane.
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." – Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 in N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1.
What a spiritual quote. 
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Poid] 1
#14101050 - 03/10/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Read Talmud if you want a plethora of similar quotes.
The religious/racial supremacy of a lot of rabbis would make even Hitler jealous - maybe that was his whole thing.
There is a definite supremacist factor at play in the whole situation.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Shins]
#14101101 - 03/10/11 10:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shins said: The religious/racial supremacy of a lot of rabbis would make even Hitler jealous - maybe that was his whole thing.

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Shins said: There is a definite supremacist factor at play in the whole situation.
Religion should be illegal, I think humans have seen enough of the disruption, damage, deaths, and controversy to cause us to know this.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Shins]
#14101794 - 03/11/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shins said: The religious/racial supremacy of a lot of rabbis would make even Hitler jealous - maybe that was his whole thing.
Naa it's probibly cause Jewish individuals denied him from art school.
 
 He tried so hard but realism was out of fashion. Truly a sad tale.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Poid]
#14102633 - 03/11/11 06:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What should be illegal is reproduction.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Shins]
#14102648 - 03/11/11 06:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shins said: Read Talmud if you want a plethora of similar quotes.
The religious/racial supremacy of a lot of rabbis would make even Hitler jealous - maybe that was his whole thing.
There is a definite supremacist factor at play in the whole situation.
It's getting harder to see the Israelis as the pure innocents that Zapp portrays them to be. I'm sure there is plenty of hatred on both sides.
Here's what's wrong with this situation and what wrong with humanity in general. Once a wrong is perceived or committed then revenge is a necessity and this can continue for thousands of years. Just like we love to get the last word in a debate. It's a human fail that will never bring the peace we say we all want.
I'm reading a book on the Serra Madre in Mexico. A almost completely lawless area full of bad guys of every type. It's all tit for tat in the family feuds and drug wars. And no one, NO ONE will let a slight go unavenged. Macho honor is always at stake.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Icelander]
#14102720 - 03/11/11 07:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I'm reading a book on the Serra Madre in Mexico. A almost completely lawless area full of bad guys of every type. It's all tit for tat in the family feuds and drug wars. And no one, NO ONE will let a slight go unavenged. Macho honor is always at stake.
Goddamn Mexicans!
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Poid]
#14102816 - 03/11/11 08:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You mean Goddamn humans don't you?
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Icelander]
#14102825 - 03/11/11 08:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You know me all too well.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Icelander]
#14102892 - 03/11/11 08:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Here's what's wrong with this situation and what wrong with humanity in general. Once a wrong is perceived or committed then revenge is a necessity and this can continue for thousands of years. Just like we love to get the last word in a debate. It's a human fail that will never bring the peace we say we all want.
I'm reading a book on the Serra Madre in Mexico. A almost completely lawless area full of bad guys of every type. It's all tit for tat in the family feuds and drug wars. And no one, NO ONE will let a slight go unavenged. Macho honor is always at stake.
I don't think the example you are reading about is the rule for all of humanity. In fact I do not think it's a rule at all. It is true that groups of humanoid lifeforms can get stuck in revenge cycles that are grossly damaging, but there are also history of other types of occurrences. Like the Germans after world war 2, nobody tried to tie them into a revenge debt like after ww1 the west invested in west Germany post-war.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your business? [Re: ScavengerType]
#14102902 - 03/11/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes there are other sick things at play. For instance the world seems to have spared some really sick fuck Nazi scientists the consequences they deserved because they had value to our political and economic and military goals. And keeping Germany in the economic game had some benefits to the modern world I'm sure.
But frankly in the middle east it's basically tit for tat.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your buisness? [Re: Poid]
#14103030 - 03/11/11 09:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: Does the Great Wall of China imprison anyone?
Were the Chinese relocated to an area that didn't belong to them by people who didn't own it? No. 
I think you need to bone up on your Chinese history. Also your mid-east history but that's OK. Say, how does one determine who owns what, anyway?Quote:
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On all sides insane.
"One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." – Rabbi Yaacov Perrin, Feb. 27, 1994 in N.Y. Times, Feb. 28, 1994, p. 1.
What a spiritual quote. 

Yeah, so? That's what some guy thinks. And hundreds of millions of Muzzies think I'm worthy of death or subservience because I don't bow down 5 times a day to the pedophile creep they worship.
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Re: Zionism, Israel- What's the problem? Is it any of your business? [Re: Icelander]
#14103060 - 03/11/11 09:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does the Great Wall of China imprison anyone? Say, did you know that the Egyptians close the border with Gaza Strip. True story.
No longer anymore, they finally overthrew government that you support and don't believe that for example the united states paid 400 million dollar in money to overthrow the iranian government.
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Read Talmud if you want a plethora of similar quotes.
The religious/racial supremacy of a lot of rabbis would make even Hitler jealous - maybe that was his whole thing.
There is a definite supremacist factor at play in the whole situation.
I would say that this is more hidden than anything, the normal ethno-cultural expression of a jewish Sultan or typical either mafia,leader,hierarchy etc is not the same and is in fact slowly building itself right now. jewish identity is either far too abominable to exist or not, history will tell.
Not that it is really hidden, but that it is not a supremacy in any sort of way that makes sense to human nature or civilization, it is a instinct of domination which is out of this world as in out of normal christian/rational/civilizational/people's type of morality and confined to sociopathy as it was the only reliable mean of expression of leadership. This kind of morality cannot come from the people, for the morality behind it means that you have means to kill people and basicly do whatever you want. it is a socioculture that is inevitably going to be created out of it.
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