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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Atlanta area ID request
#14082002 - 03/07/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've been looking around my area for potential weilii habitats for once the season rolls around. I'm pretty damn sure that neither of these are weilii, but they were growing in similar habitats.
The first specimen I might guess is a psathyrella?
Date: March 7th, 2011 Region: East Fulton County, Atlanta, Georgia
Specimen 1:




Habitat - Underneath a pine tree (kind with needles), hiding under leaves and shrubbery. Basically I was looking for weilii habitats. Growing gregariously in LARGE quantities, and some forming very crowded clusters.
Cap - Younger specimens were pale, some with orangish nipples. Older specimens were very dark brown and appeared slimey.(when taking spore print, some caps turned this dark brown color when I put a drop of water on them). 1-2cm in diameter.
Gills - dark. Do not appear mottled.
Stem - Pale, but with an orangish tinge. skinny, hollow, very fragile (broke easily). No bruising. No veil remnants or appearance of spores.
Spore Print - in progress.
Smell - typical mushroomy smell, but the more I smell it it is kind of sweet.
Specimen 2:



Habitat- growing from a front yard under a long-needle pine, directly out of the pine straw. Growing gregariously, but not in tight clusters.
Cap - yellowish, probably about 1cm in diameter. No nipple or color gradient. Texture was kind of leathery, some were naturally dessicated.
Gills - light/whitish.
Stem - flatish, hollow, with rusty fuzz/powder on them. Dark brown/orange, but with an interesting purple/maroon tinge near the top and bottom. No veil remnants apparent. Tough to pull out of ground.
Spore print - in progress.
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Edited by Nunbuh_Chrubble (03/07/11 04:47 PM)
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elprawn
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First one is Psathyrella gracilis or something similar.
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Alan Rockefeller
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1) Psathyrella 2) Laccaria
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St. Chibes
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1.) Psathyrella sp. 2.) Doesn't seem Laccaria-like to me (although I could very well be wrong). But I can't offer another suggestion yet. Update once you have a spore print.
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Re: Atlanta area ID request [Re: St. Chibes]
#14082588 - 03/07/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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actually I take that back.... It does resemble Laccaria, just all dried up.
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Atlanta area ID request [Re: St. Chibes]
#14083248 - 03/07/11 07:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So i've read that psathyrella is somewhat of an indicator species for weilii...? I.e. that if you find psathyrella that you will probably find weilii nearby?
I've been in ATL for over a year now and I'm hitting myself in the head for not realizing that this wonderful species was probably growing all over my neighborhood. I've never done much hunting of actives, but have done quite a bit of cultivation of cubes.
Hunting for mushrooms has been an experience that really shifts the way I relate to my environment, especially in an urban setting. Looking closely into the grass/bushes, noticing what trees are around... you just notice all these details that you'd otherwise walk past and ignore.
So I'm just super excited for the season to start, and to learn how to identify wild mushrooms (active, non-active, and edibles).
A few questions: 1) Weilii season is said to start in may, but it seems that a lot of posts are from the autumn. I know that it gets very hot and dry in the summer, and that the season seems to be split in half by this. Is the spring/early summer just as fruitful as the autumn, or is one typically better than the other?
2) Are there any seriously dangerous weilii lookalikes that I have to worry about? I've been doing lots of research, and fancy myself pretty clever... but weilii are just so variable in their appearance. What kind of features will let me know DEFINITELY that I have weilii, and not just something that shares similar morphology and coloration?
(BTW, I have UTFSE for weilii, but a lot of the posts consist of broken links or "UTFSE". I think we could probably use an up-to-date weilii pictorial which includes lookalikes, etc)
anyways, thank you all for your replies. I'll get pics of the spore prints up probably tomorrow. And you can expect to see more posts from me in Hunting and ID in the coming year.
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#2 is very strange, the stalk looks very fuzzy about 1/2 up on one of the photos. I dont have any ideas
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2. may be Gymnopus peronatus
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St. Chibes
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Re: Atlanta area ID request [Re: TimmiT]
#14084232 - 03/07/11 10:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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TimmiT said: 2. may be Gymnopus peronatus
You may be on to something there TimmiT
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Atlanta area ID request [Re: St. Chibes]
#14084900 - 03/08/11 02:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So spore prints have developed.
#1 has what appears to me to be straight up black spore print. Doesn't seem to appear purple or brownish. Just black. Granted, It's in artificial lighting and I'm kinda drunk, but that's what I can tell you.
#2 hasn't dropped any spores. Perhaps the caps were already too dried out when I picked them.
I'd post pics, but my camera is so shitty that it probably wouldn't come out well enough for y'all to make a good judgment anyways.
I honestly don't care much about #2. It's clearly nothing I want to eat, but it would be interesting to know what it is. #1 on the other hand was growing in the exactly fashion and location that I might expect weilii. I'd like to know what it is so that I don't confuse it with weilii in the future.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Quote:
Nunbuh_Chrubble said: I honestly don't care much about #2.
#1 is a Psathyrella and is super boring. #2 is much more interesting.
Please find a microscope and check for ornamentation on the spores.
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Haha, okay, I get it.
I wish I had access to a microscope... but I don't. sorry
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al.ly
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Quote:
Nunbuh_Chrubble said: So i've read that psathyrella is somewhat of an indicator species for weilii...? I.e. that if you find psathyrella that you will probably find weilii nearby?
I've been in ATL for over a year now and I'm hitting myself in the head for not realizing that this wonderful species was probably growing all over my neighborhood. I've never done much hunting of actives, but have done quite a bit of cultivation of cubes.
Hunting for mushrooms has been an experience that really shifts the way I relate to my environment, especially in an urban setting. Looking closely into the grass/bushes, noticing what trees are around... you just notice all these details that you'd otherwise walk past and ignore.
So I'm just super excited for the season to start, and to learn how to identify wild mushrooms (active, non-active, and edibles).
A few questions: 1) Weilii season is said to start in may, but it seems that a lot of posts are from the autumn. I know that it gets very hot and dry in the summer, and that the season seems to be split in half by this. Is the spring/early summer just as fruitful as the autumn, or is one typically better than the other?
2) Are there any seriously dangerous weilii lookalikes that I have to worry about? I've been doing lots of research, and fancy myself pretty clever... but weilii are just so variable in their appearance. What kind of features will let me know DEFINITELY that I have weilii, and not just something that shares similar morphology and coloration?
(BTW, I have UTFSE for weilii, but a lot of the posts consist of broken links or "UTFSE". I think we could probably use an up-to-date weilii pictorial which includes lookalikes, etc)
anyways, thank you all for your replies. I'll get pics of the spore prints up probably tomorrow. And you can expect to see more posts from me in Hunting and ID in the coming year.
I know it's a huge thread, but a lot of this info is pertinent. All of these questions can be answered within the pages here.
Weilii Info 2010- NGAHUNT
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Re: Atlanta area ID request [Re: al.ly]
#14132003 - 03/16/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i cant wait for late april, early may! weiliis here i come, i was also woundering about temple GA, any weiliis there? or other mushies? i'd love to know, i spend alott of time there.
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