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Sick of HPPD threads * 3
    #14081932 - 03/07/11 03:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Why oh why does everyone and their mother feel the need to cry out for help because their weed high intensifies or they feel a bit altered from reality after a difficult trip.  GROW SOME BALLS and deal with it, its not debilitating and guess what, YOU MADE the decision to take a psychedelic knowing full well what the risks are (if you even call HPPD a risk).  Btw this is coming from someone who (I believe) has moderate HPPD and although not proud to admit it suffered some delusions (completely taken care of) after a week long binge on LSD.  Everything in my house, body, and car seems to have an LSD look to it even when completely sober, even trippier when I'm stoned.  Learning in school is different but NOT impossible if you actually PUT THE EFFORT into succeeding, YOU'RE not a victim all you HPPD'ing teenagers.  so all of these HPPD fearing children should stick to drinking a beer or two when mommy ain't looking if they want to complain about this shit. This post is a vent sorry if I offended anyone :winning:!


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever] * 4
    #14081948 - 03/07/11 03:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My favorite are the ones like... "If I stare at something really hard for a really long time, it wiggles a little bit. AM I GOING INSANE?"
It's like... "Don't stare at stuff really hard for a really long time."


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever] * 2
    #14081962 - 03/07/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

HPPD isn't anything, it's just having altered perceptions.  Some people's senses are a bit fucked from intense psychedelic abuse, but 99% of all "hppd" cases are people freaking out when they realize they made a decision they can't go back from.  It's like "omg there's visual static everywhere and stuff seems to warp, i must be crazy." But if you just don't freak about it, you won't even notice it.  It's just part of the mindset that feels more comfortable if you can label yourself, like "i have hppd," or "i have ADD" or "i'm schizo and depressed."

don't put any labels! they're only gonna hold you back.

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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever] * 2
    #14081964 - 03/07/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

True. But I'm sick of venting threads :shrug:


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever] * 2
    #14081965 - 03/07/11 03:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree entirely. You choose to take powerful mind altering substances, and do not expect any consequences?  :facepalm3:

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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: ifoundwaldo] * 2
    #14082004 - 03/07/11 04:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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ifoundwaldo said:
My favorite are the ones like... "If I stare at something really hard for a really long time, it wiggles a little bit. AM I GOING INSANE?"
It's like... "Don't stare at stuff really hard for a really long time."





:lolsy:


even before tripping, if i stared at thangs, thangs would be doin' thangs.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14082032 - 03/07/11 04:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hahahaha i agree, these whinging little pussy no tollerance wannabees would fucking shit themselves and probably never stop pissing themselves for the rest of their lives if they ever had a real dose of anything potent.

Grow a set of nuts, ive had flashbacks i would have paid £10 for, im talking full crispy edges,dry mouth, brightened colours and moving patterns all whilst at work, I just thought my subconcious was sorting me out and that this is fucking awesome cos this was a really shitty boring shift and now i cant stop smiling and im on a free buzz

To someone without my outlook this would have been the end of the world it was triggered by a deep breath of air!!!! try abstaining from that until the symptoms calm down hahaha

At the least it would have been a serious posting on Shroomery asking all us fucking crazy bastards if they are normal!!!

Your asking people who have chosen this lifestyle if you are normal!!

No your not normal you give us junkies/entheogenist/party people and mental experimentors a bad name and are just the type of fool that turns up in accident and emergency hospital convinced they are dying from what ever that have ate who ends us causing reactionary politicians to bring uin a whole new set of laws to protect the diocy of the next generation from killing themselves

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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14082042 - 03/07/11 04:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I AM SWIM said:
:lolsy:


even before tripping, if i stared at thangs, thangs would be doin' thangs.



IMO when thangs are doin' thangs it :feelsgoodman: typically

btw I actually completely understand what you mean when you say doin' is a spiral.  It just spirals when you say it mang.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever] * 1
    #14082068 - 03/07/11 04:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Arghhhhh we are all crazy its moving



I better lay off all drugs for a while huh, has anyone seen my mommy?


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #14082139 - 03/07/11 04:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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My favorite are the ones like... "If I stare at something really hard for a really long time, it wiggles a little bit. AM I GOING INSANE?"
It's like... "Don't stare at stuff really hard for a really long time."



:rofl: exactly.

You decide to trip, and then when things happen you're not ready for it? :rolleyes: come on.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever]
    #14082150 - 03/07/11 04:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

I AM SWIM said:
:lolsy:


even before tripping, if i stared at thangs, thangs would be doin' thangs.



IMO when thangs are doin' thangs it :feelsgoodman: typically

btw I actually completely understand what you mean when you say doin' is a spiral.  It just spirals when you say it mang.






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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever] * 3
    #14082185 - 03/07/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Meh, who cares?
The whole point of forums like these is to educate the un-educated and share information.

We live in an age that peddles a lot of misinformation and it's only natural that when people are exposed to perceptions of reality that threaten to topple said "house of cards" they would seek advise at an online forum populated with those who dedicate large portions of their time to exploring the weirdness of reality.

I can also say with confidence that a lot less people would be concerned with "HPPD" symptoms if there wasn't such a negative perspective of altered perceptions and estranged consciousnesses. Don't blame people for being nervous when things like this occur, there's a lot of guilt associated with the possibility of mental instability these days.


Though I will say it is a bit annoying how people always ask "what happened to me" when they smoke a bowl of some unknown strain of weed and wonder why they got high as fuck. I'm always thinking to myself "fuck, dude, dive head first into that shit. The weirder the better bang for yer buck, yo."

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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Remix]
    #14082209 - 03/07/11 04:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Though I will say it is a bit annoying how people always ask "what happened to me" when they smoke a bowl of some unknown strain of weed and wonder why they got high as fuck. I'm always thinking to myself "fuck, dude, dive head first into that shit. The weirder the better bang for yer buck, yo."





the argument is always the same though.

"dude it's just weed. i've been smoking for [X] years and have never felt these effects before!"
"well, how many times have you taken mushrooms?"
"this was my 2nd time" (i.e. "i'm 16")
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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Remix]
    #14082234 - 03/07/11 04:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Meh, who cares?
The whole point of forums like these is to educate the un-educated and share information.

We live in an age that peddles a lot of misinformation and it's only natural that when people are exposed to perceptions of reality that threaten to topple said "house of cards" they would seek advise at an online forum populated with those who dedicate large portions of their time to exploring the weirdness of reality.

I can also say with confidence that a lot less people would be concerned with "HPPD" symptoms if there wasn't such a negative perspective of altered perceptions and estranged consciousnesses. Don't blame people for being nervous when things like this occur, there's a lot of guilt associated with the possibility of mental instability these days.

:tmckenna:
"If you're not concerned that you've done too much, then you haven't done enough"



The reason I care is because
A) People see psychiatrists for BS like this and further tarnish the name of psychedelics and
B) Why the hell are they buying HALLUCINOGENIC drugs or even any drugs in the first place if they value the "normal" standard of brain function anyway!  :crankynoweed:


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever]
    #14082262 - 03/07/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I got no sympathy for them for anything they take in from the media

I had my teens raving in the 90's in Britain every XTC i took i paid £10-£15 each for and just before i popped it i truely accepted i am either going to die or have the time of my life, i had more chance of meteriorite landing on my head on the way home

but

back then nearly everyday in the UK news papers and on tv there were pictures of someone half dead with loads of tubes coming out of them ina  hopsital bed and everyone blaming XTC but when your in a tent with 4000+ other people who are not dead it is hard to believe the newspapers but it did plant the demon seed of doubt


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever] * 1
    #14082333 - 03/07/11 05:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Why the hell are they buying HALLUCINOGENIC drugs or even any drugs in the first place if they value the "normal" standard of brain function anyway!  :crankynoweed:




Well... think about it...
The obvious answer is that these people aren't totally satisfied with the "normal" standard of brain function and are, in alliance with their instincts, subconsciously attempting to expand their reality. People always resort to these sort of actions when they live in a society that subverts their existence to a bunch of collapsing cultural ideologies.

However, most people don't know that in order to "expand their reality" a lot of their preconceived axioms that constrain their reality will be challenged immensely (and in ways that aren't totally predictable).
Keeping all of the above in mind, for one to experience fear or insecurities about their own stability is nothing to be surprised or frustrated about. Just educate people instead of acting superior because you can "handle your droogz."


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Remix] * 1
    #14082671 - 03/07/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This thread is :facepalm:

Sure, the hppd thing can be a bit overblown... but psychedelics can warp your mind a bit and some people just need some reassurance they arn't going to totally lose it.

Psychedelics should be used to learn and grow and help make you into a better person. The impression I get from this thread is "rolf, I eat so much droogz u r mommys little bitch if u kant handle it. lolz."

If those you mock need to "grow a sack", the you all need to grow the fuck up.

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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Subconscious]
    #14082769 - 03/07/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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This thread is :facepalm:

Sure, the hppd thing can be a bit overblown... but psychedelics can warp your mind a bit and some people just need some reassurance they arn't going to totally lose it.
/thread.




Its the fear of loosing it that causes people to loose it.

When ego death hits them they think they are loosing it and dieing and cause themselves turmoil by trying to hold onto what they think is their sanity, gotta let go

Some people have too much information too early in their drug using lives.

If they had never read about HPPD they would not be sitting paranoid convinced they have it.

When i was 10 i read about Elephantiasis of th testicles and when i was 12 and my balls dropped for 2 weeks i was paranoid i had elephantiasis of the testicles, the relief when they levelled out and stopped growing was amazing lol

I am really just having a laugh with my rant part, we all start somewhere but sometimes ignorance is definitely bliss.

I took lsd aged 14 and my preconception was it was gonna be a bit like sniffing gas but for longer hahahahahahaha if someone had told me what it was really like or i had read 100's of trip reports i would have been fucked, as it was i just went with the flow with zero expectations and with no concept of or fear of the existance of things like "bad trips" it was all just an experience that i obviously enjoyed somewhere because it is 22 years later and i'm still at it


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: GGTBod]
    #14082790 - 03/07/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

just do thangs and :feelsgoodman:

if a person is worried about a thang, then let them be worried about a thang, and figure out a way to do a thang to end their worry.

other than that, doin' thangs. :feelsgoodman:


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Subconscious] * 2
    #14082792 - 03/07/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't have HPPD, but I spent some time on the HPPD forum and those poor souls are dealing with depersonalization and derealization on a regular basis.  They each claim that these abnormal mental states began after psychedelic trips.  Now I know some people overreact from the visual residual effects of these drugs, but the members of that forum seemed to have major difficulty getting through the day.  Read about depersonalization and derealization and imagine you couldn't shake it.  That sounds like fucking hell. Some of their visuals affect their ability to hold down jobs.  The stories on that site are truly sad and they do an admirable job of supporting each other.

I think there should more HPPD threads because these drugs have the potential to fuck your shit up, ruin your life, damage your ability to think rationally and so on.  These kids who come on here complaining about mild visuals probably turned off The Man and use this forum as an authority on psychedelics.  Unfortunately sometimes I feel we are as bad as DARE, just in the opposite direction.  These drugs can be habit forming, delusion feeding, and have the potential to damage you permanently.  (And I say this as I am brewing up some potent bridgesii tea - now that shit feels like it causes HPPD much more than tryptamines)


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: g00ru] * 1
    #14082821 - 03/07/11 06:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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HPPD isn't anything, it's just having altered perceptions.  Some people's senses are a bit fucked from intense psychedelic abuse, but 99% of all "hppd" cases are people freaking out when they realize they made a decision they can't go back from.  It's like "omg there's visual static everywhere and stuff seems to warp, i must be crazy." But if you just don't freak about it, you won't even notice it.  It's just part of the mindset that feels more comfortable if you can label yourself, like "i have hppd," or "i have ADD" or "i'm schizo and depressed."

don't put any labels! they're only gonna hold you back.

i agree with you OP



This is exactly right. I got severe anxiety after an intense 2nd salvia trip and I freaked out for weeks over the fact that I "had" HPPD because I noticed a significant increase in visual snow, and if I stared at a wall/floor/pattern for a while it started breathing. All of these visual distortions were also symptoms of anxiety, but of course, I stuck with the "fact" that they were HPPD because, to me, it was scarier, and someone with anxiety always fears the worst.

Then one day I finally fucking realized... why the fuck does it matter?  Who gives a FUCK about labels? Why are schizophrenics "crazy?" Why is it "scary" to have altered perceptions on things? As long as I'm still fucking living, who the hell cares? What's with the categorizatoin and trying to be like everyone else? All that matters is YOUR perspective.

The only thing in life that's really worth fearing is fear itself. As long as you're still living, you can enjoy life with whatever you have.


P.S.:In case anyone's wondering, my visual distortions are still here.

And I don't give a fuck.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: joemolloy]
    #14082849 - 03/07/11 06:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

mmmmmm Bridgesii :homer: could just chew on a wegde



We all make the choice and except the consequency of that consumption.

what ever they are

We are adding chemicals to our brain chemistry!!!!!

If this scares you in any way dont do it, you will consume yourself from the inside out.

I gotta be honest until i googled this i didnt even think it was a real thing, i did just think people were overeacting because their bodies had lower natural levels of MAO and so they took longer to break down tryptamines, so when we all came down 5 hours later they took 5 days lucky bastards and they don't even appreciate it sheeesh


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: I AM SWIM]
    #14082874 - 03/07/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

remix im really glad their are people like you, willing to educate the ignorant
i genuinely mean that

at first when this happend to me, ("seeing things a little differently")

i was shocked, and it would've been nice if someone had just told me its fine and dandy, rather than be figure it out on myself

now i am very glad and greatfull i found out why, without others clearly telling me

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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Precambrian]
    #14082879 - 03/07/11 06:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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This is exactly right. I got severe anxiety after an intense 2nd salvia trip and I freaked out for weeks over the fact that I "had" HPPD because I noticed a significant increase in visual snow, and if I stared at a wall/floor/pattern for a while it started breathing. All of these visual distortions were also symptoms of anxiety, but of course, I stuck with the "fact" that they were HPPD because, to me, it was scarier, and someone with anxiety always fears the worst.

Then one day I finally fucking realized... why the fuck does it matter?  Who gives a FUCK about labels? Why are schizophrenics "crazy?" Why is it "scary" to have altered perceptions on things? As long as I'm still fucking living, who the hell cares? What's with the categorizatoin and trying to be like everyone else? All that matters is YOUR perspective.

The only thing in life that's really worth fearing is fear itself. As long as you're still living, you can enjoy life with whatever you have.


P.S.:In case anyone's wondering, my visual distortions are still here.

And I don't give a fuck.



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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Subconscious]
    #14082904 - 03/07/11 06:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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This thread is :facepalm:

Sure, the hppd thing can be a bit overblown... but psychedelics can warp your mind a bit and some people just need some reassurance they arn't going to totally lose it.

Psychedelics should be used to learn and grow and help make you into a better person. The impression I get from this thread is "rolf, I eat so much droogz u r mommys little bitch if u kant handle it. lolz."

If those you mock need to "grow a sack", the you all need to grow the fuck up.

/thread.



I don't have a comeback to this post but what makes these people incapable of researching these things for themselves?  Also that wasn't my intended impression anyway I'm just frustrated with half the threads in TPE being about marijuana making their vision wavy, are they gonna be crazy forever?  Without giving any details at all about what symptoms/aggravated/caused it in the first place


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: kush420] * 1
    #14082919 - 03/07/11 06:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I guess anyone with HPPD should not watch this



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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: GGTBod] * 1
    #14083068 - 03/07/11 07:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

To be fair, these post-trip freakouts wouldn't happen nearly as often if the psychedelic community stopped advertising psychedelics as "completely harmless". People seem to sweep the almost inevitable permanent effects of even semi-regular moderate doses under the rug when introducing new users. If we were more honest we wouldn't need to deal with these situations as much.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Precambrian]
    #14083158 - 03/07/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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guruu said:
HPPD isn't anything, it's just having altered perceptions.  Some people's senses are a bit fucked from intense psychedelic abuse, but 99% of all "hppd" cases are people freaking out when they realize they made a decision they can't go back from.  It's like "omg there's visual static everywhere and stuff seems to warp, i must be crazy." But if you just don't freak about it, you won't even notice it.  It's just part of the mindset that feels more comfortable if you can label yourself, like "i have hppd," or "i have ADD" or "i'm schizo and depressed."

don't put any labels! they're only gonna hold you back.

i agree with you OP



This is exactly right. I got severe anxiety after an intense 2nd salvia trip and I freaked out for weeks over the fact that I "had" HPPD because I noticed a significant increase in visual snow, and if I stared at a wall/floor/pattern for a while it started breathing. All of these visual distortions were also symptoms of anxiety, but of course, I stuck with the "fact" that they were HPPD because, to me, it was scarier, and someone with anxiety always fears the worst.

Then one day I finally fucking realized... why the fuck does it matter?  Who gives a FUCK about labels? Why are schizophrenics "crazy?" Why is it "scary" to have altered perceptions on things? As long as I'm still fucking living, who the hell cares? What's with the categorizatoin and trying to be like everyone else? All that matters is YOUR perspective.

The only thing in life that's really worth fearing is fear itself. As long as you're still living, you can enjoy life with whatever you have.


P.S.:In case anyone's wondering, my visual distortions are still here.

And I don't give a fuck.




I am a schizophrenic, and I love being labled as crazy. I just love the word, the way it sounds, and telling people I'm crazy allows me to ride the wave of their ignorance to the land of mutual understanding.

I know many other schizophrenic people and I can confidently say that their perspective is as different from my perspective as it is from a "sane" person's perspective. I like to use their experience with psychedelics to provide people with a model that they can use to better understand my particular breed of insanity.

The difference between my crazy world and your normal world is is analogous to the difference between your normal world and the other worlds you discover through psychedelics. Sometimes I've got one foot in "reality" and the other in "insanity". Sometimes I'm completely present, sometimes I'm off on a journey through universes that you can't even imagine.

But, now that I've given you a picture of what it's like to be crazy, I'd like to address the more important matter in your post. I am a PARANOID, catatonic, disorganized schizophrenic. < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Subtypes > Of all the schizophrenics I know, only a handful of them are paranoid schizophrenics. I can't speak to the emotional content of their inner worlds, but I can say with complete confidence that paranoid schizophrenia is terrifying. Just imagine how awful it would be to know, to know with absolute certainty, to have experienced it with your own senses, that your best friends have conspired to drug, beat and rape you; that everyone you know has worked to beat you down and destroy you completely. So, yeah, I don't care if it's not "natural." I don't care who frowns upon the treatment provided by my nation's medical system. I"m going to take my medicine every day, as prescribed, to keep from living a life that is crippled by fear.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: healing]
    #14083218 - 03/07/11 07:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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healing said:

I am a schizophrenic, and I love being labled as crazy. I just love the word, the way it sounds, and telling people I'm crazy allows me to ride the wave of their ignorance to the land of mutual understanding.

I know many other schizophrenic people and I can confidently say that their perspective is as different from my perspective as it is from a "sane" person's perspective. I like to use their experience with psychedelics to provide people with a model that they can use to better understand my particular breed of insanity.

The difference between my crazy world and your normal world is is analogous to the difference between your normal world and the other worlds you discover through psychedelics. Sometimes I've got one foot in "reality" and the other in "insanity". Sometimes I'm completely present, sometimes I'm off on a journey through universes that you can't even imagine.

But, now that I've given you a picture of what it's like to be crazy, I'd like to address the more important matter in your post. I am a PARANOID, catatonic, disorganized schizophrenic. < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Subtypes > Of all the schizophrenics I know, only a handful of them are paranoid schizophrenics. I can't speak to the emotional content of their inner worlds, but I can say with complete confidence that paranoid schizophrenia is terrifying. Just imagine how awful it would be to know, to know with absolute certainty, to have experienced it with your own senses, that your best friends have conspired to drug, beat and rape you; that everyone you know has worked to beat you down and destroy you completely. So, yeah, I don't care if it's not "natural." I don't care who frowns upon the treatment provided by my nation's medical system. I"m going to take my medicine every day, as prescribed, to keep from living a life that is crippled by fear.


I was experiencing paranoid delusions that thankfully I recovered from, similar to yours.  They were truly detrimental to my life and I was only that way for a week or two.  YOU truly have my sympathy, but not people complaining that their weed highs are different or things seem to move, get outta town.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever]
    #14083632 - 03/07/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Why oh why does everyone and their mother feel the need to cry out for help because their weed high intensifies or they feel a bit altered from reality after a difficult trip.  GROW SOME BALLS and deal with it, its not debilitating and guess what, YOU MADE the decision to take a psychedelic knowing full well what the risks are (if you even call HPPD a risk).  Btw this is coming from someone who (I believe) has moderate HPPD and although not proud to admit it suffered some delusions (completely taken care of) after a week long binge on LSD.  Everything in my house, body, and car seems to have an LSD look to it even when completely sober, even trippier when I'm stoned.  Learning in school is different but NOT impossible if you actually PUT THE EFFORT into succeeding, YOU'RE not a victim all you HPPD'ing teenagers.  so all of these HPPD fearing children should stick to drinking a beer or two when mommy ain't looking if they want to complain about this shit. This post is a vent sorry if I offended anyone :winning:!




that's not "mild hppd," that's normal for taking that much acid..

agreed, sick of pointless venting/hppd threads :shrug:


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: healing] * 1
    #14083780 - 03/07/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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healing said:
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Precambrian said:
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guruu said:
HPPD isn't anything, it's just having altered perceptions.  Some people's senses are a bit fucked from intense psychedelic abuse, but 99% of all "hppd" cases are people freaking out when they realize they made a decision they can't go back from.  It's like "omg there's visual static everywhere and stuff seems to warp, i must be crazy." But if you just don't freak about it, you won't even notice it.  It's just part of the mindset that feels more comfortable if you can label yourself, like "i have hppd," or "i have ADD" or "i'm schizo and depressed."

don't put any labels! they're only gonna hold you back.

i agree with you OP



This is exactly right. I got severe anxiety after an intense 2nd salvia trip and I freaked out for weeks over the fact that I "had" HPPD because I noticed a significant increase in visual snow, and if I stared at a wall/floor/pattern for a while it started breathing. All of these visual distortions were also symptoms of anxiety, but of course, I stuck with the "fact" that they were HPPD because, to me, it was scarier, and someone with anxiety always fears the worst.

Then one day I finally fucking realized... why the fuck does it matter?  Who gives a FUCK about labels? Why are schizophrenics "crazy?" Why is it "scary" to have altered perceptions on things? As long as I'm still fucking living, who the hell cares? What's with the categorizatoin and trying to be like everyone else? All that matters is YOUR perspective.

The only thing in life that's really worth fearing is fear itself. As long as you're still living, you can enjoy life with whatever you have.


P.S.:In case anyone's wondering, my visual distortions are still here.

And I don't give a fuck.




I am a schizophrenic, and I love being labled as crazy. I just love the word, the way it sounds, and telling people I'm crazy allows me to ride the wave of their ignorance to the land of mutual understanding.

I know many other schizophrenic people and I can confidently say that their perspective is as different from my perspective as it is from a "sane" person's perspective. I like to use their experience with psychedelics to provide people with a model that they can use to better understand my particular breed of insanity.

The difference between my crazy world and your normal world is is analogous to the difference between your normal world and the other worlds you discover through psychedelics. Sometimes I've got one foot in "reality" and the other in "insanity". Sometimes I'm completely present, sometimes I'm off on a journey through universes that you can't even imagine.

But, now that I've given you a picture of what it's like to be crazy, I'd like to address the more important matter in your post. I am a PARANOID, catatonic, disorganized schizophrenic. < http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Subtypes > Of all the schizophrenics I know, only a handful of them are paranoid schizophrenics. I can't speak to the emotional content of their inner worlds, but I can say with complete confidence that paranoid schizophrenia is terrifying. Just imagine how awful it would be to know, to know with absolute certainty, to have experienced it with your own senses, that your best friends have conspired to drug, beat and rape you; that everyone you know has worked to beat you down and destroy you completely. So, yeah, I don't care if it's not "natural." I don't care who frowns upon the treatment provided by my nation's medical system. I"m going to take my medicine every day, as prescribed, to keep from living a life that is crippled by fear.



Damn... when you're having delusions like that do you consciously know that they're really not true? Or can you literally not differentiate? That's freaky as shit. Does being schizophrenic feel, like, different? Like is everything hazy or something haha? I'm just wondering because shizophrenia is one of my biggest fears with anxiety, but instead of shying away from it, I've decided to pretty much research all about it so I can fill my psyche with so much info that I stop being scared in the first place.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: RealRollForever]
    #14084963 - 03/08/11 02:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I heard about HPPD a little while ago.  When I read the symptoms I literally laughed my ass off.  I have HPPD but I think HPPD is bullshit. 

-eyes play tricks
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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: 0rusnjos] * 1
    #14084979 - 03/08/11 02:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

cuz it's not whenever you want..


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Eminence]
    #14085132 - 03/08/11 03:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldnt dislike HPPD if it was slightly trippy (but not to the extent that i cant read!!), but my HPPD is just in the form of static.. f-ing boring and lame. NO regrets tho


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: ChurchMouth]
    #14085217 - 03/08/11 04:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I am sick of people who tell others to shut up when they talk about the risks of psychedelic [ab]use.

Some of you who have HPPD and say it doesn't matter, or that you enjoy it are in some sort of denial of the fact that you have fucked up your mind temporarily from something you really enjoy. And you don't like to face that, so you tell yourself what ever lie(s) you want to believe.

I love cannabis induced HPPD, but I can understand if someone doesn't like it.
HPPD without being induced by drugs I wouldn't like that much.

No one should be proud of being drug fucked.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Mario_x86-64] * 1
    #14086178 - 03/08/11 11:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't even think there is such a thing as non drug induced HPPD


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Eminence]
    #14086269 - 03/08/11 11:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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frylock91 said:
I don't even think there is such a thing as non drug induced HPPD




Well, people who take thumbprints trip long after the LSD has left their systems.
On the one hand, it was drug induced.
But when do you draw the line?


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Precambrian]
    #14105119 - 03/11/11 05:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

No, the delusions I experience, while I'm having the experience, is my reality. I cannot differentiate.

Being schizophrenic does feel very different from the way a "normal" person feels. It's difficult to explain the difference, but it happens on many levels of my consciousness. The details I notice when looking at an object, say a chair, are very different than the details that you might notice. You might see a white plastic chair, and I might describe it as an amalgamation of rather interesting contours collaborating to mimic the transcendental experience of The Chair. For me, each chair defines, and is defined by, that transcendental experience.

I do not feel as though my experience of reality is hazy, in fact, since I no longer suffer from delusions (many thanks to my doctors), I feel that my reality is logical, sharp, concise, and rather cutting to people who can't handle my robotic bluntness. Schizophrenic people are logical to a fault. I could teach a person to see the world the way I do as easily as I could explain basic algebra, but allowing someone to become that close to me still terrifies me (schizophrenics tend to wall off parts of their inner world).

Basically, I am a solipsist. I know that I am the god of this tiny universe and that all other beings that I might interact with are figments of my imagination, just as I am a figment of their imaginations. I live in a world where all objects are equal, and I live in a world without time. For me, the past does not exist and any interaction flows through the present for only an instant (an infinitely small amount of what you might call time, so 0 seconds). My life is just beginning and it is already over, and I live completely in the now. In essence, I can see the world from the fourth dimension.

How old are you? After the age of 25 you probably don't have to worry about being schizophrenic.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: healing]
    #14106656 - 03/11/11 11:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh wow, that is intensely interesting, Healing. I have bouts of schizophrenophobia / general phrenophobia sometimes as a result of this funny cannabis-anxiety thing I've had going on lately. In my 'normal' state of mind though I don't worry about it because a) my only risk factors are habitual cannabis use and high intelligence [is that a risk factor?] and b) it's useless to worry about things over which you have no control. I've never had a discussion with someone who actually has the condition before, and I only know one person in real life who's been diagnosed (i'm 18 by the way). I definitely find it fascinating and maybe even something I'd like to study as a career. I'm sure you don't enjoy being placed upon a pedestal, but anything you'd like to expound upon regarding your initial development of symptoms and your general mental state will be regarded by myself and others I'm sure with immense interest. I think the way you've overcome your delusions is really inspirational by the way.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: An Octopus]
    #14107529 - 03/12/11 05:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Only thing close to HPPD I have ever had was after a mushroom trip that went horribly wrong. I couldn't sleep or eat with throwing up, or constantly have anxiety for about four months. People started asking me what was wrong with me and my parents took me to a psychiatrist. I went on the shroomery around then and read the MDMA studies and that changed everything. It let me get over all of that and now I am back to taking LSD.


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Re: Sick of HPPD threads [Re: Precambrian]
    #14107868 - 03/12/11 08:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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P.S.:In case anyone's wondering, my visual distortions are still here.

And I don't give a fuck.




me too man. sometimes i even see an explosion of colored dots before my eyes.  makes me feel a little loopy but hey, it's all good :cool:


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