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Sydoku
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couple quick questions- Help!
#14081742 - 03/07/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, PCed some jars yesterday, BRF. Filled them to like 3/4 of an inch from top then topped them with vermiculite. When I opened the PC today trying to inoc. them, I noticed they had all been compressed so there was like 3/4 of an inch of space between the top of the vermiculite and the top of the jar... The needle on the syringe cant even make it half way through the vermiculite now... Whats going on? I don't recall this happening to other batches...
The needle has to go threw the vermiculite, doesn't it? and why did my jars get compressed?
Thanks!
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Re: couple quick questions- Help! [Re: Sydoku]
#14081775 - 03/07/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not sure how excatly it happens. Maybe there were some gaps inside your jars within the substrate and they filled in when you cooked....I personally just don't like the looks of BRF jars after I pressure cook them. I prefer to steam sterilize in a pot....
You had the holes taped right?
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Edited by i GrOw StUFF (03/07/11 03:30 PM)
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Sydoku
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Re: couple quick questions- Help! [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
#14081811 - 03/07/11 03:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No tape, had tinfoil over top though.
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Re: couple quick questions- Help! [Re: Sydoku]
#14081835 - 03/07/11 03:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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In my opinion you need tape over the holes....They could have got some water in through the holes when you cooked, and it also could have lost some water....Either way I think that with no tape you could ruin the moisture content in the jars....That could be the reason why they shrunk down.
-------------------- The mushrooms, which grow only during the season of torrential rains, awaken the forces of creation and produce an experience of spiritual abundance, of an astonishing, inexhaustible constitution of forms that identifies them with fertility and makes them a mediation, a means of communion, of communication between man and the natural world of which they are the metaphysical flesh.
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Re: couple quick questions- Help! [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
#14081840 - 03/07/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Foil does most of the job, the tape does the rest....
-------------------- The mushrooms, which grow only during the season of torrential rains, awaken the forces of creation and produce an experience of spiritual abundance, of an astonishing, inexhaustible constitution of forms that identifies them with fertility and makes them a mediation, a means of communion, of communication between man and the natural world of which they are the metaphysical flesh.
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Sydoku
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Re: couple quick questions- Help! [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
#14083417 - 03/07/11 08:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I appreciate your advice
Can anyone think of any other possible causes? And about the needle, is it ok if it doesn't go all the way through the vermiculite?
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Re: couple quick questions- Help! [Re: Sydoku]
#14083489 - 03/07/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not sure what other causes there can be. If you don't get the needle through the verm it is just risky....Depends on how much you get through. The problem is getting the top half of the dry verm layer wet. Then any contams that go through the holes can colonized the dry verm that is now moist....If you can get through most of the verm you probably will be ok.....The more you can't get through will increase the risk of contams....Maybe you can micropore tape the holes after you inoculate? Just an idea, risky either way...
-------------------- The mushrooms, which grow only during the season of torrential rains, awaken the forces of creation and produce an experience of spiritual abundance, of an astonishing, inexhaustible constitution of forms that identifies them with fertility and makes them a mediation, a means of communion, of communication between man and the natural world of which they are the metaphysical flesh.
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