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FlusH
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Getting started with protesting the government
#14080799 - 03/07/11 12:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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..young and ambitious, now I just dont care
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gamer4life
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: FlusH]
#14080837 - 03/07/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FlusH said: Recently I have just started to make my voice heard by protesting the actions of my government. Just simple things, joining groups online, posting informative videos, and speaking my mind on facebook.
I would really like to step up my actions, but I don't really know what to do or how to do it. And at the same time be safe about it so I dont endanger my family.
Could anybody recommend me any reading or video's that teach how to effectively protest? I guess my main motivation is to make the rest of my country aware of what is happening, and to hopefully remove the problem(s) that are currently in office.
I am looking over the canadian charter of rights ( http://www.canadianlawsite.ca//CdnCharter.htm ) and making sure I am working within the law.
Thanks for any help!
Be careful. If your country is anything like the US, you'll have FEDS and everybody else watching you to make sure your not an extremist.
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ThirtyCigarettes
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: gamer4life]
#14080851 - 03/07/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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GOD BLESS AMERICA
But seriously, we're probably about due to disappear anyways, why protest? Loot.
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13.step
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: ThirtyCigarettes]
#14080879 - 03/07/11 12:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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video's that teach how to effectively protest?
Did you just say that? Really? Fucking really??? 
If you don't now how to protest "the actions" of the government then I suggest you get another hobby...
Sorry, don't take it personally it just seems that you aren't doing it out of any passion or conviction...
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: 13.step]
#14080887 - 03/07/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Vote.
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FlusH
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: 13.step]
#14080958 - 03/07/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by FlusH (09/28/15 11:23 PM)
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dynomite
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: FlusH]
#14081124 - 03/07/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FlusH said: Could anybody recommend me any reading or video's that teach how to effectively protest? I guess my main motivation is to make the rest of my country aware of what is happening, and to hopefully remove the problem(s) that are currently in office.
I am looking over the canadian charter of rights ( http://www.canadianlawsite.ca//CdnCharter.htm ) and making sure I am working within the law.
Thanks for any help!
uhhh, they don't really care if you're following the rules or not Toronto G20 Exposed
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13.step
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: FlusH]
#14081184 - 03/07/11 01:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, sorry man, just stated my opinion that's not called trolling...
Can you tell me against which actions of your government you'd like to protest? And what you hope to accomplish?
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: dynomite]
#14081246 - 03/07/11 01:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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and now that you're discouraged, you should realize that non-violence makes it pretty easy for the big goons with the big guns, maybe some radicalism or violence is what you're looking for
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FlusH
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: 13.step]
#14082498 - 03/07/11 05:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FlusH
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: dynomite]
#14082618 - 03/07/11 05:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Edited by FlusH (09/28/15 11:24 PM)
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pfxtc
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: FlusH]
#14082625 - 03/07/11 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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protest
lol
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: FlusH]
#14082647 - 03/07/11 06:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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FlusH said: I would really like to step up my actions, but I don't really know what to do or how to do it. And at the same time be safe about it so I dont endanger my family.
Try starting a local group that meets maybe once a month or once a week, has a mailing list and an agenda. If it is a drug reform group, you could recruit members at hempfests, parties, friends of friends, etc.
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Could anybody recommend me any reading or video's that teach how to effectively protest?
"Recipes for Disaster" has some chapters that are extremely relevant to what you want to do. Its a great book as well.
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gamer4life said: Be careful. If your country is anything like the US, you'll have FEDS and everybody else watching you to make sure your not an extremist.
I know a lot of activists and none of them are particularly hampered by the feds. I wouldn't worry about them unless you are breaking a lot of serious laws. Protesting is virtually legal and when people do get busted its typically for minor misdemeanor BS.
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video's that teach how to effectively protest?
Did you just say that? Really? Fucking really??? 
If you don't now how to protest "the actions" of the government then I suggest you get another hobby...
I think effective protest techniques are a legitimate subject of study. Everyone wants to change the world, but knowing how to actually go about it is the difference between someone who sits around and hits the bong and someone whos actions make the news and get the positive attention of legislators. There are a huge number of factors to consider, and having your protest make the correct type of impact on the proper people is a bit of a black art / science.
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Doc_T said: Vote.
A good start, and I always do. However if I had never voted in my life none of the elections would have turned out differently.
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FlusH said: Yea, videos. Why not? Videos like what to do if your are detained by police. What your rights are.
We have a collection of those type of videos here:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11241015
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14082664 - 03/07/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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voting

there's no such thing as legitimate protest, at least not in this system.
like duane allman said, There ain't no revolution, it's evolution.
evolve your body and mind, revolution of any kind is merely an illusion
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: pfxtc]
#14082674 - 03/07/11 06:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yea I know lol
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: pfxtc]
#14082962 - 03/07/11 06:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pfxtc said: there's no such thing as legitimate protest, at least not in this system.
Why not?
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14082995 - 03/07/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wonder whats gonna fill the gap once the US empire is finished dissolving.
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Cascadian
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#14083010 - 03/07/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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FlusH said:
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Could anybody recommend me any reading or video's that teach how to effectively protest?
"Recipes for Disaster" has some chapters that are extremely relevant to what you want to do. Its a great book as well.
Yeah you pretty much should just order these http://www.crimethinc.com/books/



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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#14083015 - 03/07/11 06:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OP we're on the same page, i dot put to much on facebook because it fucking fries my mind to go on that site, but when prop 19 was going on i went out and distributed flyer and talked to people on my college campus.
it seems so hard to accomplish stuff being young in a world with so many different voices, just be the change you want to see in the world and hope for the best.
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: realfuzzhead]
#14083399 - 03/07/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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OP I know exactly what you're talking about, and I've felt the same way for a while...
Check out my site in my sig, I started that as a form of getting the word out after getting arrested during the g20.
There is also a group called LeadNow that started up this month, which seems very well organized and seems like it could get some momentum behind it. I have an article on my site about it, check it out, its pretty interesting stuff. They have like 60 events organized this week for anyone to attend, just face to face meetings to get a sense of what people want to change and/or strengthen about Canada. Their organization is about moving Canada from Canadians being told who to vote for/what the issues are, to Canadians telling politicians what the issues are then voting en mass for whoever commits to the group's user-chosen issues.
Edit: I should clarify that none of these initiatives have anything to do with violence/advocation of violence lol
Edited by shroomer17 (03/07/11 08:09 PM)
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Getting started with protesting the government [Re: Cascadian]
#14085716 - 03/08/11 08:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Cascadian said:
Yeah you pretty much should just order these http://www.crimethinc.com/books/
I thought Days of War, Nights of Love wasn't all that good, you may want to get that from the library first to see if you like it. I have not seen Expect Resistance. Recipes for Disaster is one of my favorite and most useful books.
OP, I asked my friend who is a professional activist/protester about this and she would like to share these links with you:
Here are some great campaign tools for designing a campaign and determining messaging: http://www.smartmeme.org/section.php?id=86
AND this is the best place to look for resources on planning direct actions and protests http://www.ruckus.org/section.php?id=82
Also I take back what I said about not having to worry about the federal government much. In the USA they are more benign in this area, but in Canada they are quite a bit worse. Many of her friends were preemptively arrested just before the g20 protest for silly reasons, one of them was arrested for the music he was making.
Feds infiltrated all the g20 protest groups shortly before the conference. She showed me one of the messages that the informant sent her, it was something like "If you need any help with any actions (wink) let me know!" She noticed later that it was a fed because the girl showed up just before the protest and disappeared afterward, always wanted to do illegal stuff, and the stuff she did / people she spoke with were heavily documented in government records.
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