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Re: "The drug that killed my sister..." [Re: Diploid]
#14080213 - 03/07/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Diploid what is your advice on cocaine? I have a friend who wants to try but I am afraid he will go through what you did with heroin...
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Re: "The drug that killed my sister..." [Re: Diploid]
#14080278 - 03/07/11 10:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Diploid said: IMO physical dependency is the tip o the ice burg compared to psychological dependency.
Physical withdrawal is NOTHING like a craving, no matter how strong the craving.
I'm intensely curious. There's almost nothing I won't try. So a few years ago I decided to dip my toe in that pond to see what's there. It was a mistake.
Physical heroin withdrawal is an exquisite form of hell that no one who hasn't been there could understand. It almost ruined me and I'm no wimp. That span of time stands out starkly as the single most horrific experience of my life, and my ride was relatively mild.
It gave me a healthy respect for physical addiction, an understanding that a psychological craving is nothing by comparison, and a deep empathy for the suffering of physical addicts.
OK maybe I'm wrong here but you need to answer this to my satisfaction. Why, once someone has gone through this hell of withdrawal would they ever get hooked again? IMO the psychological need for relief wins in the end.
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Re: "The drug that killed my sister..." [Re: Diploid]
#14080524 - 03/07/11 11:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Diploid said: IMO physical dependency is the tip o the ice burg compared to psychological dependency.
Physical withdrawal is NOTHING like a craving, no matter how strong the craving.
I'm intensely curious. There's almost nothing I won't try. So a few years ago I decided to dip my toe in that pond to see what's there. It was a mistake.
Physical heroin withdrawal is an exquisite form of hell that no one who hasn't been there could understand. It almost ruined me and I'm no wimp. That span of time stands out starkly as the single most horrific experience of my life, and my ride was relatively mild.
It gave me a healthy respect for physical addiction, an understanding that a psychological craving is nothing by comparison, and a deep empathy for the suffering of physical addicts.
Cheetohs? Physically or psychologically addicting?
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Re: "The drug that killed my sister..." [Re: Icelander]
#14080531 - 03/07/11 11:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why, once someone has gone through this hell of withdrawal would they ever get hooked again?
Something to do?
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Why, once someone has gone through this hell of withdrawal would they ever get hooked again?
Something to do? 
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Re: "The drug that killed my sister..." [Re: Icelander]
#14081650 - 03/07/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Diploid said: Physical heroin withdrawal is an exquisite form of hell that no one who hasn't been there could understand.
QFT. I understand that benzo W/Ds arguably rival those of heroin but having experienced the latter I plan to indefinitely avoid the former. 
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Icelander said: Why, once someone has gone through this hell of withdrawal would they ever get hooked again?
At least in my personal experience I thought I could handle occasional use without getting to the frequency of use that involves physical W/Ds upon stopping.
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Re: "The drug that killed my sister..." [Re: deCypher]
#14083333 - 03/07/11 07:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I won't try to say at all that I know heroin withdrawal, not even close. Once I did get into vicodin enough that I took maybe about 12 daily (6 at a time) and even just that smaller withdrawal was horrible enough that I knew I never wanted to experience or even imagine a heroin withdrawal
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