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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14078339 - 03/06/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you are supposed to sit the mono in a closet or black garbage bag for 10 days before barely peeking, if its 100% fruit it then if not wait 3 or 4 more days then fruit it.





old info bro..no need in that..keep them in the same area hwere you're going to fruit with a normal light cycle...

some people tape up the holes in a monotub but now there's the new trend of not taping the holes up either idk much about that im spawning few tubs tomorrow where i'll be doing the test for myself, 2 normal ways and 2 with polyfil for colonization.

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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: biologys]
    #14078353 - 03/06/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

light and normal breeze from the room would probably result in early pinning


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14078354 - 03/06/11 10:05 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you are supposed to sit the mono in a closet or black garbage bag for 10 days before barely peeking, if its 100% fruit it then if not wait 3 or 4 more days then fruit it.




Oh, shit.  I was under the impression that I don't want the casing to be fully colonized?  So am I confusing full colonization with overlay?

Also, the casing tek I was following (Casing 101) says:

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Now cover the casing container with some aluminium foil and leave it at room temp (70-80?F) for 3 - 5 days. When the mycelium begins to pop through the casing layer, uncover the casing and put into the fruiting chamber.




Since today was Day 5 and the myc seemed to be popping up in places, I thought it'd be okay... so in your opinion, I should cover my trays back up and wait for a while?  Or since they're already in the SGFC, should I just run with it?


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: Teemo]
    #14078359 - 03/06/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

im confused now as well...did you spawn it to coir or did you place grains then case?

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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: Teemo]
    #14078378 - 03/06/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I was just going by what easy bulk mono and ohmatics mono teks say          http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11533599


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: biologys]
    #14078420 - 03/06/11 10:17 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Well, I bought 3% peroxide (the brown bottle) and didn't dilute it at all and spritzed my tray a bit.  Nothing seemed to fiz or melt so I think it was just myc!  Since I'm new at this I guess I just couldn't recognize it.  If it still looks funny tomorrow, I might spritz it again, but probably not.

Thanks for the input, guys!




Don't see any cobweb in your pic. If you sprayed once and it did nothing I wouldn't worry about hitting it again. The pic of your tray in question is a bit fuzzier then the other one. Is it the big spots you are worried about or the rest of the tray? The dense white is def not cobweb. The rest of the tray looks to me like myc coming up through the casing. As far as I can tell from the pic anyway, looks how it should look when ready for fruiting. :thumbup:

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im confused now as well...did you spawn it to coir or did you place grains then case?




Believe it was brf caked crumbled and cased.


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: Teemo]
    #14078498 - 03/06/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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you are supposed to sit the mono in a closet or black garbage bag for 10 days before barely peeking, if its 100% fruit it then if not wait 3 or 4 more days then fruit it.




Oh, shit.  I was under the impression that I don't want the casing to be fully colonized?  So am I confusing full colonization with overlay?

Also, the casing tek I was following (Casing 101) says:

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Now cover the casing container with some aluminium foil and leave it at room temp (70-80?F) for 3 - 5 days. When the mycelium begins to pop through the casing layer, uncover the casing and put into the fruiting chamber.




Since today was Day 5 and the myc seemed to be popping up in places, I thought it'd be okay... so in your opinion, I should cover my trays back up and wait for a while?  Or since they're already in the SGFC, should I just run with it?





Your right about the casing layer not being colonized. When it starts to come up through all over the tray you fruit it. He is confused about what you did. Looks good! Go with what your doing.....


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Re: First Grow with PICS - How am I doing? [Re: biologys]
    #14078657 - 03/06/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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im confused now as well...did you spawn it to coir or did you place grains then case?




I crumbled and cased BRF cakes


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3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14092782 - 03/09/11 02:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, so here I am 3 days later and I've got some more pics for you guys...

These are my best cakes:

Regarding the first pic - the veil is broken, right?  Should I pick it?  It's still kinda small, so I'm hoping maybe it'll grow some more...

Now here are my other cakes & trays which show no signs of pins..

The ones circled in red are the cakes with no growth.  :frown:  I did have a wonky ratio of BRF-verm, so maybe they just don't have enough nutrients to grow... but if this is all I'm gonna get, I gotta say I must be doing something really wrong.  Especially looking at the great flush as demonstrated in RR's videos..

Is there anything I can do at this point for my 3 cakes and 2 trays that aren't showing any progress?  Should I try coldshocking them, or should I just be more patient?


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14093795 - 03/09/11 05:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

In retrospect, I think I probably should have let my trays colonize longer.  Now I know that coco coir is better used as a substrate and not a casing...


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14094540 - 03/09/11 07:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Mist the cakes only, from about 2 feet away with a super fine mist, they look really wet.


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14095429 - 03/09/11 10:29 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Just be paitent :wink: If you have a small fan you can hold over everything for a bit then mist somewhat heavily and fan them good for a min or 2.....



These were some of my first cakes..they spent weeks in the chamber before finally producing. If nothing is contamed you will be ok.


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: McDude]
    #14095433 - 03/09/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just be paitent :wink: If you have a small fan you can hold over everything for a bit then mist somewhat heavily and fan them good for a min or 2.....



These were some of my first cakes..they spent weeks in the chamber before finally producing. If nothing is contamed you will be ok.




Those are some beast flushes!

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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14095631 - 03/09/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Mist the cakes only, from about 2 feet away with a super fine mist, they look really wet.




Alright, will do.  They might look extra wet here since I misted them just before taking the photos (since I already had the FC open)  I've also been fanning them more than I mist, I'll keep on that.


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: McDude]
    #14095638 - 03/09/11 11:12 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Just be paitent :wink: If you have a small fan you can hold over everything for a bit then mist somewhat heavily and fan them good for a min or 2.....



These were some of my first cakes..they spent weeks in the chamber before finally producing. If nothing is contamed you will be ok.




Awesome flushes!! I hope my cakes turn out half as good.  I guess I'm not really on a time limit, so I'll leave them in there until they either produce or go bad.


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14095648 - 03/09/11 11:14 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

How about these guys?



Should I pick em or let them grow a bit more?  How long can I leave them unpicked before they start to rot or go bad?


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14095776 - 03/09/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'd pluck em off. They are already open and only going to start dropping spores then rotting. I never did the traditional sgfc. But from experience I would say soak those cakes then listen to a few songs while holding a fan over them lol My fan runs for 20 mins every hour 70cfm in a tiny space. 98% humidity when the fan is not running then it drops down to about 68 or so during that 20 mins. I mist 2 times a day and I pretty much soak them.....as long as your giving enough FAE to evaporate. I think it's the number one pinning trigger.

You will notice when they drop spores. The first pic in my sig you can see the darkness. After that point they pretty much start to go downhill. They have served there purpose and thus return to the earth.


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: McDude]
    #14096171 - 03/10/11 02:13 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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I'd pluck em off. They are already open and only going to start dropping spores then rotting. I never did the traditional sgfc. But from experience I would say soak those cakes then listen to a few songs while holding a fan over them lol My fan runs for 20 mins every hour 70cfm in a tiny space. 98% humidity when the fan is not running then it drops down to about 68 or so during that 20 mins. I mist 2 times a day and I pretty much soak them.....as long as your giving enough FAE to evaporate. I think it's the number one pinning trigger.

You will notice when they drop spores. The first pic in my sig you can see the darkness. After that point they pretty much start to go downhill. They have served there purpose and thus return to the earth.




Thanks for the replies! I appreciate the help.  :thumbup:  I do have an electric fan, and now I'm really tempted to try out your method.  I think I'll start tomorrow and see if that makes a difference in pins or not since I've just been manually fanning with the lid up until now.

Also, what strain is that in your sig?  It looks great!  Also, what's the substrate in the cakes you shared?  Verm-BRF?  Just askin' cuz in the future, that's the kind of flushes I want from my cakes!  :smile2:

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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: Teemo]
    #14096243 - 03/10/11 02:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My sig is Puerto Rican,Columbian Rust Spore and Costa Rican. The cakes were verm/brf as per the pf tek. They are either b+ or puerto rican, 2 I had to begin with and don't remember which they were. They sat in a regular SGFC for 2 weeks and did nothing. Then I rigged up something different and they sat in that for quite a while before doing anything.

You said you mix was wonky?? hah what does that exactly mean? They look like they are fine. Really think if you mist heavy then fan with your fan to evaporate and your humidity is ok in between then they should do something.


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Re: 3 Days Later! [Re: McDude]
    #14105322 - 03/11/11 06:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, upon McDude's advice, a couple days ago, I picked those first 2 shrooms since they were dropping spores...


That black on the one is spores, I think, since it was directly under the gill!  And actually, the one without black sort of picked itself.  One hour, it was on the cake..the next hour, its weight had made it fall off!

Then these 2 guys started dropping their spores:


So I picked those 2 off:


I'm currently fan drying the latter 2.  The first 2 are almost cracker dry - I sun-dried them for a while, then fan-dried them.  Gonna grab some desiccant later and finish drying them that way.

I do have a question though - is this a "flush"?  All the pins seem to be growing at all kinds of different rates.  There's no clear-cut: "first flush! second flush!" kinda thing going on here.  Is this normal?  Is there something I did wrong to produce the pin rates I'm getting?  Perhaps not enough FAE to induce pinning at once?


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