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Invisibledog
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aspen as substrate
    #1407665 - 03/25/03 06:29 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I'm just getting started with edibles and am looking for a readily available substrate source for wood lovers. The local PetSmart sells larges bags of aspen shavings as rodent bedding. Would this make a suitable substrate?

I think aspen is a hardwood but I'm not positive.


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Re: aspen as substrate [Re: dog]
    #1407775 - 03/25/03 07:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Most will grow and fruit a little bit on aspen, but the shavings are so thin there is not much energy in there for them. You may want to do a shaving / woodchip mix with a little N supplementation. They will not work for outside patches and they only work okay as spawn for outdoor patches. Atleast that is my experience with them.


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Re: aspen as substrate [Re: r05c03]
    #1415827 - 03/28/03 10:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Thanks r05c03.

I did a little research and found that while aspen are deciduous they are not considered a hardwood. Until now I thought that ALL deciduous were hardwood.  :blush:  Live and learn.

So I'm back where I started.  I live in a desolate wasteland where the only available trees are eucalyptus, and even they are rather scarce. The sawdust and lumber that is available through local outlets is mostly pine, etc..

I can't afford to have wood shipped to me. What do others in who live in hardwood challenged areas use? 


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Re: aspen as substrate [Re: dog]
    #1416061 - 03/28/03 07:47 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmm, I think I might even hazard a guess where at where it is you live. I think I grew up near there.....


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Re: aspen as substrate [Re: dog]
    #1416063 - 03/28/03 07:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hmmm, I think I might even hazard a guess where at where it is you live. I think I grew up near there.....

As far as the aspen goes it is a fine substrate for fungi, it is just that the shavings do not have enough substance to make good out door patches. I have fruited oysters off of the very aspen shavings that you speak off. I supplemented them with oatmeal and grew them off in autoclavable bags.


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Re: aspen as substrate [Re: r05c03]
    #1416683 - 03/29/03 11:37 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Cool, then I guess I will get started with aspen until I can find another source.

G a n j a kindly sent me a Shiitake culture and I'm eager to get it going.


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Re: aspen as substrate [Re: dog]
    #1419412 - 03/31/03 07:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Ah i wish you luck with it.Ive just inoculated some oak logs with the same strain
and am about to go for a walk into the local woods to use up an extra jar of
dowels i have in some of the old oaks out there.Check my grow log grow log
when we're able to upload pics again.And keep us informed on your progress
please.
Formally G a n j a :-)


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