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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14075261 - 03/06/11 11:50 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Not much to fear then. :shrug: Considering your age having never dealt with a Muslim is an indication that there aren't that many around. 

Or you haven't spent a lot of time in prison. :grin:



Sadly, no.  They're around, they just can't afford me.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075309 - 03/06/11 12:02 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Gee I thought they had bucks.  Aren't they getting paid to develop these cells. :lol:


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14075344 - 03/06/11 12:13 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

They spend all their money on destruction, not construction.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075381 - 03/06/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
They spend all their money on destruction, not construction.





Like the mosque in Tennessee and in NYC?

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TheThinker]
    #14075421 - 03/06/11 12:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
They spend all their money on destruction, not construction.





Like the mosque in Tennessee and in NYC?



I don't know what's going on in Tennessee but the 9/11 triumph mosque in NYC is kinda, well, dead.  That dread disease, fundsalow.  Kills 'em every time.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075433 - 03/06/11 12:34 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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TheThinker said:
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zappaisgod said:
They spend all their money on destruction, not construction.





Like the mosque in Tennessee and in NYC?



I don't know what's going on in Tennessee but the 9/11 triumph mosque in NYC is kinda, well, dead.  That dread disease, fundsalow.  Kills 'em every time.





The Department of Justice has filed a brief supporting construction of a mosque in Tennessee that has been burned down and vandalized. The DOJ writes that Islam is a religion and is entitled to freedom of expression. Jerry Martin, the U.S. attorney for the middle district of Tennessee, said that while the construction of the mosque is a "local matter" the department wishes to "vigorously support" granting the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro building permits. READ MORE ABOUT THE MOSQUE

CNN spoke with Camie Ayash whose husband wants to build the mosque to serve a growing population of Muslims in the mid-size city. The Islamic Center has been operating in Murfreesboro for decades but had outgrown its current building, she said.

When construction on the new building began, vandals spraypainted "Not Welcome" on the site and set fire to construction materials.
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/10/19/doj-supports-controversial-tennessee-mosque/

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075449 - 03/06/11 12:37 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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TheThinker said:
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zappaisgod said:
They spend all their money on destruction, not construction.





Like the mosque in Tennessee and in NYC?



I don't know what's going on in Tennessee but the 9/11 triumph mosque in NYC is kinda, well, dead.  That dread disease, fundsalow.  Kills 'em every time.





What? I thought they were fully backed by the Shah of Radical Islamistan.! :aliceshocker:

I know some of the people involved in organizing the mosque in TN. They're good people. I know plenty of muslims here, mostly through work, school, and beer & tobacco stores where I get my shisha.

Also, I saw a woman in a burka-lite at Walmart just last Friday.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075472 - 03/06/11 12:42 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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TheThinker said:
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zappaisgod said:
They spend all their money on destruction, not construction.





Like the mosque in Tennessee and in NYC?



I don't know what's going on in Tennessee but the 9/11 triumph mosque in NYC is kinda, well, dead.  That dread disease, fundsalow.  Kills 'em every time.





A recently appointed senior adviser to the Muslim cultural center and mosque planned near the site of New York's September 11 attacks has stepped down, the center's developer said.

The move came days after remarks surfaced in which he said homosexuality was most often the result of sexual abuse.

"Imam Abdallah Adhami announced today that he will no longer serve as Senior Adviser to Park51," the project's developer, Sharif El-Gamal, said in a statement posted on Facebook.

The resignation came just weeks after the project's public faces, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and his wife, Daisy Khan, stepped down as leaders of the project.

Shortly after Adhami entered the project, he came under fire for saying in an online lecture posted on the Web site of his non-profilt organization Sakeenah, that "an enormously overwhelming percentage of people struggle with homosexual feeling because of some form of violent emotional or sexual abuse at some point in their life."

Gay right activists said the comments, first reported by NY1 cable news on January 26, were harmful and played into outmoded stereotypes long debunked.

Opposition to the Park51 project swelled last year after critics said its location was insensitive. Supporters said the critics themselves were being intolerant of religious freedom.

The proposed 13-story, $100 million center could be years away from completion. It would be two blocks from "Ground Zero," where the September 11, 2001, hijacked plane attacks toppled the Twin Towers, killing nearly 3,000.

El-Gamal said in his statement: "We have been humbled by Imam Adhami's contributions to this project ... We look forward to him, God willing, leading prayers informally for Park51 in the near future."

(Editing by Jerry Norton)
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/05/us-mosque-imam-idUSTRE7140CG20110205

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #14075475 - 03/06/11 12:43 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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zappaisgod said:
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TheThinker said:
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zappaisgod said:
They spend all their money on destruction, not construction.





Like the mosque in Tennessee and in NYC?



I don't know what's going on in Tennessee but the 9/11 triumph mosque in NYC is kinda, well, dead.  That dread disease, fundsalow.  Kills 'em every time.





What? I thought they were fully backed by the Shah of Radical Islamistan.! :aliceshocker:

I know some of the people involved in organizing the mosque in TN. They're good people. I know plenty of muslims here, mostly through work, school, and beer & tobacco stores where I get my shisha.

Also, I saw a woman in a burka-lite at Walmart just last Friday.




Yeah, the vast majority of people are just people, not sword swinging bomb throwing lunatics. Go figure.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TheThinker]
    #14075517 - 03/06/11 12:57 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Sadly it is not a vast majority, at least not world wide.  And the members that are peaceful seem to be afraid of speaking out against those who are violent.  I wonder why.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075524 - 03/06/11 01:00 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Sadly it is not a vast majority, at least not world wide.  And the members that are peaceful seem to be afraid of speaking out against those who are violent.  I wonder why.





That is a misconception. They speak out often, but doing so isn't newsworthy. You can find plenty of examples if you are willing to wade through tons of hate news.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TheThinker]
    #14075537 - 03/06/11 01:03 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

ORLY?  All I've heard are prepared press releases from unindicted co-conspirators that kind of waffle around.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075557 - 03/06/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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ORLY?  All I've heard are prepared press releases from unindicted co-conspirators that kind of waffle around.





Like I said, in your case you would actually have to dig around for something that doesn't fit your pre-disposed notions.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/117452973.html
Below are a few of the many, many examples of Muslims speaking out against violence:

Islamic Society of North America

"U.S.MUSLIM RELIGIOUS COUNCIL ISSUES FATWA AGAINST TERRORISM

The Fiqh Council of North America wishes to reaffirm Islam's absolute condemnation of terrorism and religious extremism.

Islam strictly condemns religious extremism and the use of violence against innocent lives. There is no justification in Islam for extremism or terrorism. Targeting civilians’ life and property through suicide bombings or any other method of attack is haram – or forbidden - and those who commit these barbaric acts are criminals, not 'martyrs.'…" (click here for more)

CAIR

"CAIR’s Anti-Terrorism Campaigns

The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has consistently and persistently condemned terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians. CAIR has also organized fatwas, petition drives, placed advertisements in national and local newspapers, ran public service announcements on television and radio stations, helped local Mosques across the United States in holding open houses, published Op-Eds in local and national newspapers, conducted inter-faith meetings and worked with scholars to disseminate the peaceful teachings of Islam.

In addition to specific campaigns, we have compiled a 68 page document showing all of the condemnations of terrorism after September 11th, 2001 and a similar document after the July 7th, 2006 bombings in London, UK..." (click here for more)

Islamic Circle of North America

"ICNA Shariah Council Responds to Al Awlaki

"…Then came Imam Anwar’s praise of the failed Christmas day terrorist plot of Umar Farouk AbdulMuttalib. This left us even more baffled since this was an attack intended to kill 278 innocent airline passengers, many of whom were Muslims. How could an Imam who once seemed so level-headed now be a proponent of such a clear transgression of Islamic law?

Our search for answers and excuses for Anwar Al Awlaki have run out. Today we are hearing the words of hate and violence in the voice of the very same Imam which used to bring us so much good through the stories of our prophets and the remembrance of the hereafter. His call today for us as American Muslims to take up arms against our own country serves no other purpose but to wreak havoc and destruction. It is the same call of the kharijites that has been repeated so many times that feasts on the frustration and uncontrolled emotions of vulnerable youth that do not have the foundation or knowledge to recognize its illegitimacy…" (click here for more)

ADAMS Center, VA

"ADAMS Condemns Terrorism

With the Name of God, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful

All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS)

The All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS), along with other Muslim organizations throughout North America, strongly condemn and reject the actions of terrorists and terrorism.

The All Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) BACKS FATWA( Islamic religious ruling) AGAINST TERROR

The ADAMS Board voted on May 22, 2005 to unanimously adopt the MPAC National Anti-Terrorism Campaign Handbook and follow and implement the guidelines. http://www.mpac.org/atc/home.asp
'Islam, the religion of tolerance, holds the human soul in high esteem, and considers the attack against innocent human beings a grave sin, this is backed by the Qur'anic verse which reads:

'Who so ever kills a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he has killed all mankind, and who so ever saves the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind,' (Quran: Al-Ma'dah:32)…"(click here for more)

The above are unequivocal condemnations against violence. The question has been answered, so hopefully the dialogue can move forward.

Continue reading on Examiner.com: Islam 101: Why don't Muslims speak out against violence? - Baltimore Muslim | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/muslim-in-baltimore/islam-101-why-don-t-muslims-speak-out-against-violence#ixzz1Fqt2TPFv

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TheThinker]
    #14075567 - 03/06/11 01:10 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

It's not like we have any real control over our sword swing, bomb throwing lunatics, either.

Ours wear oxford shoes and nice suits though, rather than sandals and robes.

Makes all the difference.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #14075614 - 03/06/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

"The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has consistently and persistently condemned terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians."

CAIR is the specific unindicted co-conspirator I referred to.  Of course, I didn't mention it because I knew you would fall into that trap.  CAIR is a terrorist enabling organization that sends money to terrorists and brings lawsuits to stifle anti-terrorist activities.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075616 - 03/06/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

And the members that are peaceful seem to be afraid of speaking out against those who are violent.  I wonder why.
For the same reason a lot of these kids are afraid of speaking out against you?:lol:

Head cut off/radical muslim

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14075625 - 03/06/11 01:23 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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For the same reason a lot of these kids are afraid of speaking out against you?:lol:

Head cut off/radical muslim

Head bitten off/radical Zap



Until the recent influx of freshly spawned trolls I thought you might be right.  I'll get them soon.  And their little dogs, too.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075633 - 03/06/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I love it when they bite back.:popcorn:


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14075655 - 03/06/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

My ankles are well armored.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075659 - 03/06/11 01:31 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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"The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) has consistently and persistently condemned terrorism and the killing of innocent civilians."

CAIR is the specific unindicted co-conspirator I referred to.  Of course, I didn't mention it because I knew you would fall into that trap.  CAIR is a terrorist enabling organization that sends money to terrorists and brings lawsuits to stifle anti-terrorist activities.





I just love the way you try to dismiss me as a troll. What, my researched and thought out responses bother you? Should I pull shit out of my ass and post it like you do?

Funny that you decided to ignore every other organization in my link. Like I said, you actually have to look for things that (gasp) don't fit your preconceived ideas.

There are Islam bloggers all over who speak out against the violence. People like professors, Islamic leaders, you know, those who are actually educated on the topic.

Call me a troll once more and I will report you.

Edited by TheThinker (03/06/11 01:32 PM)

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