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Ambrella
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I think humans must adapt and evolve or DIE.
It seems we are a part of an ass-backwards culture, that has conditioned us to consume. We excuse it by calling it "human nature" though it does not seem natural at all, when you look at the entirety of nature around us and can observe all systems working together in balance and harmony.
I wish we would collectively consciously choose to let go of status-quo, and adapt to the serious conditions we find our earth in and evolve.
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Enlightenedwon
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Where is there life that doesn't consume?
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Ambrella
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I was referring to consumerism. Different from natural consumption...
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Ambrella said: I think humans must adapt and evolve or DIE.
It seems we are a part of an ass-backwards culture, that has conditioned us to consume. We excuse it by calling it "human nature" though it does not seem natural at all, when you look at the entirety of nature around us and can observe all systems working together in balance and harmony.
I wish we would collectively consciously choose to let go of status-quo, and adapt to the serious conditions we find our earth in and evolve.
There's really nothing unnatural about what we are doing. That's the problem really. We act out or natural programming and take as much as we can due to survival instincts meant to get us fat for the lean times.
No if we could find a way to be unnatural we'd have a hope of a better life.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
Edited by Icelander (03/06/11 11:29 AM)
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giza


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We should spend money on taking care of our species rather than use it to seperate us.
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Re: Changes [Re: giza]
#14075862 - 03/06/11 02:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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But I don't see it happening until the need for humans to work decreases drastically.
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Re: Changes [Re: giza]
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Ambrella said: I think humans must adapt and evolve or DIE.
It seems we are a part of an ass-backwards culture, that has conditioned us to consume. We excuse it by calling it "human nature" though it does not seem natural at all, when you look at the entirety of nature around us and can observe all systems working together in balance and harmony.
I wish we would collectively consciously choose to let go of status-quo, and adapt to the serious conditions we find our earth in and evolve.
Very true. I think that humanity is at a very peculiar place in time, and we have changed so rapidly we have yet to realize the huge impacts we are making on the earth. Not just environmental, but changes to humanity itself.
I don't know if evolve is the right word though, but adaptation is certainly needed. We just need a different viewpoint in positions of power, or different positions of power. Someone up there needs to have the best interest of earth in mind, from the perspective of the universe.
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Re: Changes [Re: giza]
#14076263 - 03/06/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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giza said: We should spend money on taking care of our species rather than use it to seperate us.
Saying "we should" is meaningless imo. It's what we do based on what we are that is reality.
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giza said: We should spend money on taking care of our species rather than use it to seperate us.
How do we use it to seperate us? But yea we should invest a little more into our future.
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Ambrella said: I think humans must adapt and evolve or DIE.
It seems we are a part of an ass-backwards culture, that has conditioned us to consume. We excuse it by calling it "human nature" though it does not seem natural at all, when you look at the entirety of nature around us and can observe all systems working together in balance and harmony.
I wish we would collectively consciously choose to let go of status-quo, and adapt to the serious conditions we find our earth in and evolve.
There's really nothing unnatural about what we are doing. That's the problem really. We act out or natural programming and take as much as we can due to survival instincts meant to get us fat for the lean times.
No if we could find a way to be unnatural we'd have a hope of a better life.
Well nothing is unnatural but that doesn't mean it isn't stupid.
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That's very subjective.
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plastic is unnatural
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learningtofly said: And?
You might be wrong.
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mushiepussy said: plastic is unnatural
not
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How?
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You might be wrong.
An opinion can be wrong?
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go find me some naturally occuring plastic then.
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Icelander said:
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learningtofly said: And?
You might be wrong.
An opinion can be wrong?
Only yours.
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Plastic is made from naturally occuring resources, so unless you can make the unnatural from the natural i fail to see how plastic is unnatural. It may be synthetic but it definitely isn't unnatural.
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mushiepussy said: go find me some naturally occuring plastic then.
I can find all the chemical components in nature. If it comes from nature it's natural.
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There's really nothing unnatural about what we are doing. That's the problem really. We act out or natural programming and take as much as we can due to survival instincts meant to get us fat for the lean times.
Thats true. But do me a favor.
Imagine you are sleeping. Unaware of it. Suddenly .. a dream. Blue sky , sun shining brightly.. a bird here and there. Something hits you.. ITS WINTER. How is this warm weather possible. Something hits you again. I'm sleeping. I'm sleeping. I'm dreaming.
The more you repeat this , the more you come into realization that you are in fact dreaming. As you continuously affirm this realization you become more and more conscious and finally , you are awake.
Now take this example.. and apply it to the fact you have been HIT in real life. You realize what we are doing, what our nature is. You come more and more to understand these programs that run our life and consequently you are more and more liberated from that restraining reality of just automatically fulfilling the needs of body by adhering to these survival instincts.
This is what i see as evolution of consciousness. Using intellect, to navigate through ones own life of needs , desires , fears and trepidations. Seeing where these automated processes help us and where they are detrimental to our well being, on a personal and a collective level.
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Re: Changes [Re: jivJaN]
#14077322 - 03/06/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I see it. I just am not sure about it. I'm not sure we actually can liberate from these programs. Maybe it might be better to just have as good a time as possible doing whatever it is you do.
Take my dog for instance. He doesn't judge his aggression and so it doesn't bother him.
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