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Envix
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the Power of Chi
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: Envix]
#14073909 - 03/06/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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How do i harness it? I want to light things on fire with my hands.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: p4kSouL]
#14074270 - 03/06/11 04:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You need a 10,000 year old brain, tigers blood, and Adonis DNA. It's called winning.
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blewmeanie said: You need a 10,000 year old brain, tigers blood, and Adonis DNA. It's called winning.

lol who the hell made that greamlin.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: The_Ghost]
#14079349 - 03/07/11 01:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't have sound at the moment, but I fast forwarded to the part where he stops the bullet with his hand. Totally gonna watch this once I get home.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: Joolz]
#14081091 - 03/07/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pretty amazing!
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: p4kSouL]
#14090811 - 03/09/11 03:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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p4kSouL said: How do i harness it? I want to light things on fire with my hands.
its pretty farfetched to be able to reach the level of lighting things on fire.. ive been a chi practitioner for about 10 years now, and if theres one thing i learned its that people who can do things like that harness a mind-blowing amount of power that most people will never reach. his secretive training and meditations are probably his key. it takes an incredible amount of energy to move something, stop something, or light something (maybe not so much energy for the LED, you might try it). im not saying it cant be done, but its something people train their entire lives to accomplish.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: Envix]
#14090867 - 03/09/11 04:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm impressed. Another item to add to my list of things that baffle me. Looks like a powerful benefit of skilled training and meditation.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: irie.one]
#14091323 - 03/09/11 08:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i wonder why hes so secretive about it. i would think that knowledge like this could be of great benefit to humanity and open peoples eyes to new levels of existence
that he wishes to keep this ability to himself and not share it with others seems pretty selfish to me 
i understand why he wouldn't want to be showboating or seem like he's special because you could get caught up in ego which would be of hindrance to his abilities
...i suppose he and his master wanted to keep it under wraps so people couldn't learn and use it improperly or for malicious purposes..
but i don't think people would be able to use this ability with the intention of misusing it.. so i don't see a problem in teaching others how to harness it
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: Envix]
#14091732 - 03/09/11 10:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Envix said: i wonder why hes so secretive about it. i would think that knowledge like this could be of great benefit to humanity and open peoples eyes to new levels of existence
that he wishes to keep this ability to himself and not share it with others seems pretty selfish to me 
i understand why he wouldn't want to be showboating or seem like he's special because you could get caught up in ego which would be of hindrance to his abilities
...i suppose he and his master wanted to keep it under wraps so people couldn't learn and use it improperly or for malicious purposes..
but i don't think people would be able to use this ability with the intention of misusing it.. so i don't see a problem in teaching others how to harness it
This is partly why I think it's a hoax.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: deCypher]
#14091796 - 03/09/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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why would it be a hoax?
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: deCypher] 1
#14091815 - 03/09/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Here's a more simple energy practice:
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p4kSouL
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Its pretty simple to figure out why this guy does not want to go public. Do people really think this planet is all positive full of angels??
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: Envix]
#14092366 - 03/09/11 12:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Envix said: why would it be a hoax?
Just a feeling I get... something seems fishy about how he originally refuses to be filmed and then changes his mind (after he feels confident enough to perform his trickery under the scrutiny of cameras) and then changes his mind AGAIN before he accidentally exposes himself. Here's a post I found from another forum that has an alternative explanation to chi for how he performs these feats:
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On first viewing, Chang appears to be doing a few simple carnival tricks:
1. "Generating electricity" - this is normally done with the use of a small high-frequency, high-voltage, low-amperage device taped to the performer's body. James Randi mentions this device here, regarding others who have done this: Randi wrote: This “chi” scam artist on YouTube is probably using the very same setup as the Malaysian crook did, a small battery-powered device worn on the body that develops very high voltage at very low amperage, that can be directed from the body of the performer to anything that’s at a lower potential than he is. It’s a form of Tesla coil, and it’s very effective. There’s also a rabbi in New York using this same gimmick to convince the faithful…
2. Catching a "rifle bullet" - what is shown is the firing of a very low-speed pellet that can pierce the wall of an empty soda can. Then, Chang puts his hand in front of the gun. He is in no danger, and there does not appear to be anything extraordinary about what he is doing.
3. Moving a knife - Chang carefully balances a knife on its sheath. It is shown moving slightly in one direction, twice. With such a precariously-balanced object, the slightest breeze will move it readily. All Chang has to do is wait a bit. In the first movement, he has his mouth close to the knife, "talking" to it. In the second, he has leaned back, so either he's caught a breeze, or he started the knife in a position that would naturally swing away, or else he's using his knee (either one would work, but it's hard to tell from that angle which, if either, is in position), to slightly lift the glass tabletop.
4. "Fooling the experts" - they have a CEO, a doctor, and a physicist. They really needed an electrical engineer. They try to use an ordinary volt meter. If he's using the high-frequency device, of course they will not get readings from this! Some experts they are! Maybe they actually do use the metal detector on his back and feet to check for the device, but this is not shown. Chang seems to be flexing his back to produce his electricity. I would check between his shoulder blades. I mean, they strip him almost naked, but they let him leave his shirt on?!? Oh, and the color-changing LEDs have different colors depending on the direction of the current, not the amount.
5. "Chopstick through the table" - has anything ever looked more like a set-up magic trick? First, he takes them to his local restaurant. Then he can't make the "chi" work on Formica, so he needs to use the bottom of the table. This trick requires nothing more than a cheap table with a seam in the wood.
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=118890
I won't say anymore because this forum isn't really about debunking but as I said I don't really buy it. Would be super cool if the guy's actually legit, though.
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p4kSouL said: How do i harness it? I want to light things on fire with my hands.
its pretty farfetched to be able to reach the level of lighting things on fire.. ive been a chi practitioner for about 10 years now, and if theres one thing i learned its that people who can do things like that harness a mind-blowing amount of power that most people will never reach. his secretive training and meditations are probably his key. it takes an incredible amount of energy to move something, stop something, or light something (maybe not so much energy for the LED, you might try it). im not saying it cant be done, but its something people train their entire lives to accomplish.
Nice!
Who is your Sifu and what school?
He keeps it a secret so that people won't die trying to do these complex practices that are required to utilize the stored chi. He keeps it secret for your own safety. You could die attempting to accomplish level 4, if you make a mistake.
Words can only explain so much and are often misinterpreted.
If you were serious, you could train in the basics to build a foundation, and if you prove worthy, you would find someone to teach you more, when you are ready.
Master's don't divulge the end game to general public for thier (publics) own safety.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: deCypher]
#14092792 - 03/09/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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deCypher said:
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Envix said: why would it be a hoax?
Just a feeling I get... something seems fishy about how he originally refuses to be filmed and then changes his mind (after he feels confident enough to perform his trickery under the scrutiny of cameras) and then changes his mind AGAIN before he accidentally exposes himself. Here's a post I found from another forum that has an alternative explanation to chi for how he performs these feats:
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On first viewing, Chang appears to be doing a few simple carnival tricks:
1. "Generating electricity" - this is normally done with the use of a small high-frequency, high-voltage, low-amperage device taped to the performer's body. James Randi mentions this device here, regarding others who have done this: Randi wrote: This “chi” scam artist on YouTube is probably using the very same setup as the Malaysian crook did, a small battery-powered device worn on the body that develops very high voltage at very low amperage, that can be directed from the body of the performer to anything that’s at a lower potential than he is. It’s a form of Tesla coil, and it’s very effective. There’s also a rabbi in New York using this same gimmick to convince the faithful…
2. Catching a "rifle bullet" - what is shown is the firing of a very low-speed pellet that can pierce the wall of an empty soda can. Then, Chang puts his hand in front of the gun. He is in no danger, and there does not appear to be anything extraordinary about what he is doing.
3. Moving a knife - Chang carefully balances a knife on its sheath. It is shown moving slightly in one direction, twice. With such a precariously-balanced object, the slightest breeze will move it readily. All Chang has to do is wait a bit. In the first movement, he has his mouth close to the knife, "talking" to it. In the second, he has leaned back, so either he's caught a breeze, or he started the knife in a position that would naturally swing away, or else he's using his knee (either one would work, but it's hard to tell from that angle which, if either, is in position), to slightly lift the glass tabletop.
4. "Fooling the experts" - they have a CEO, a doctor, and a physicist. They really needed an electrical engineer. They try to use an ordinary volt meter. If he's using the high-frequency device, of course they will not get readings from this! Some experts they are! Maybe they actually do use the metal detector on his back and feet to check for the device, but this is not shown. Chang seems to be flexing his back to produce his electricity. I would check between his shoulder blades. I mean, they strip him almost naked, but they let him leave his shirt on?!? Oh, and the color-changing LEDs have different colors depending on the direction of the current, not the amount.
5. "Chopstick through the table" - has anything ever looked more like a set-up magic trick? First, he takes them to his local restaurant. Then he can't make the "chi" work on Formica, so he needs to use the bottom of the table. This trick requires nothing more than a cheap table with a seam in the wood.
http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=118890
I won't say anymore because this forum isn't really about debunking but as I said I don't really buy it. Would be super cool if the guy's actually legit, though. 
That would not explain the force the patients feel, he is not pushing on them. They did strip him naked and used a metal detector.
There are other video's of him penetrating through wood with wood, from top down.
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Re: the Power of Chi [Re: Dagon]
#14095370 - 03/09/11 10:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Who's that guy that can eat his own head?
Magic's cool man.
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