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PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS
    #1407330 - 03/25/03 12:37 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

I have ordered some Philosopher Stones (Psilocybe Tampanensis)
I dont know the recommended dosage and i have never tried truffles before.
HAs somebody tried tampanensis truffles? is it very different from cubensis?
Any recommendation?

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: Kapa]
    #1407392 - 03/25/03 01:28 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

They aren't truffles. They are the sclerotia of P. tampanensis. Dosage sold in Amsterdam is 15 grams for a high.

Tha is equal to a half to one full ounce of fresh cubensis or three drid grams to 5 of cubensis.

mj

Here is a picture of the tampanensis trays sold from Cosmic Dreams Kokopeli Smart Shop in Amsterdam. They ae 15 grams per container.

mj

And it is not very different than cubensis except in its form. It is still psilocine/psilocybine and maybe a few other related alkaloids found in all psilocybine containing mushrooms of which there are more than 190 known species world wide.

Several species produce the sclerotia.

Click on image to enlarge:



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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: Kapa]
    #1407396 - 03/25/03 01:30 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: DoseR]
    #1407430 - 03/25/03 02:00 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

2 grams is not enough.

Didn't you rea where I said the dosage is 15 grams.

.Why would you tell someone to eat two grams

The trays are one dose.

Cubie trays have one fresh ounce of P. cubensis and the Cope trays have 7-10 fresh mushrooms in them.

Here is a picture of a cubie teray with fresh shrooms from Amsterdam.

<a href="https://files.shroomery.org/files/032303-8/19441-amtray1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="/forums/thumbs/032303-8/19441-thumb_amtray1.jpg"></a>

and here is a tray of Copelandia cyanescensweighing 5 fresh grams

<a href="https://files.shroomery.org/files/032303-8/25150-bibpics92a.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="/forums/thumbs/032303-8/25150-thumb_bibpics92a.jpg"></a>

I guess you are really lost.

the sclerotia has psilocine/psilocybine with out the fruiting body. It is way more potent than the shrooms by weight. But the highs are no different than eating the shroom, regardless of the incorrect symptoms sheets they sell with the shrooms.

Cubes take 3-5 dried grams.

Sclerotia takes 15 fresh grams.

Thast what the tray is for there If you llooked you would see the amount in the tray is listed on the tray.

mj



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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: Kapa]
    #1407434 - 03/25/03 02:06 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: Anno]
    #1407445 - 03/25/03 02:17 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

IT does n0t provide a proper doage Anno, only in the large amounts and not for individual highs.

Again I reiterate, the dosage is 15 grams fresh for a high equivalent to one fresh ounce for cubies or ten fresh specimens of copes

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407447 - 03/25/03 02:18 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)


<a href="https://files.shroomery.org/files/032303-8/19441-amtray1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="/forums/thumbs/032303-8/19441-thumb_amtray1.jpg"></a>

and

<a href="https://files.shroomery.org/files/032303-8/25150-bibpics92a.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="/forums/thumbs/032303-8/25150-thumb_bibpics92a.jpg"></a>

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407452 - 03/25/03 02:24 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Why do I post when everyone conmes along and disagrees with my assesments of a proper dosage.

Again I will try to post the images here which failed to appear above.

The P. cubensis tray from Cosmic Dreams, One fresh ounce of cubensis for 15 Euro Dollars.



The Copelandia tray fro $15.00 Euro Dollars



mj

I'll be back witht he accoompanying sheet of instructions and symptoms and effects.

mj

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407453 - 03/25/03 02:24 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Read it again mj.

It sais "fresh sclerotia is twice as potent as fresh cubensis".

That?s eactly what you were saying.

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407456 - 03/25/03 02:28 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407464 - 03/25/03 02:38 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Here is the sheet which comes with the P. tampanensis Sclerotia (Philosopher's Stone) info.

The only differnece between the tex t of this sheet and the test for Copelandia and for p. cubensis is one line and the dosage.

This partuicular sheet notes that:
PSilocybe Tampanensis as:

This mushroom gives a strong, Introspective Mental Tri[p.

Okay. Then the

Psilocybe cubensis (The Mexcan):
This mushroom gives a Moderate, very visual trip.

and the sheets for:

Copelandia cyanescnes listed as
Panaolus cyanescens (The hawaiian).

This mushroom gives a fast, intens trip, very visual.

The rest of the sheets for the three trays are all the same text as in the one posted below, except for the doage.

Each of the three sheets also say the same thing.

Effect:
the magic mushrooms brings you a visionary, dreamy state of consciousness.

This is a marketing gimmick to help in the sales of the shrooms.


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and as I noted elsewhere a few days ago to the same question, the sheets are printed in German, Spanish, Portuguese, French, English, Dutch and Italian.

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: DoseR]
    #1407466 - 03/25/03 02:39 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

It is illegal to sell dried sclerotia in Athe Nederlands. I assumed that is where you are getting it from. The dosage for fresh is still 15 grams.

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407474 - 03/25/03 02:44 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: DoseR]
    #1407479 - 03/25/03 02:49 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

HEy doser dude, They do not sell dried grams from Amsterdam which is probably where they ordered it form.
AS for my art. I sell a cd-rom with 1088 images and four animated short films I created and they sell well as do my mushroom t-shirts, botht hte hand-painted ones and the ones I create in Fotoshop. I make a living off of them and so I do not have to work to hard, although I do have a part time job. Which is none of your buusiness anyway.

So yo don't loike my art. So what. The world is not perfect.



And I make mucho buckos off of my art. so your attitude about my art is void and null.


At least I contribute and all I see you doing is critisizing.

I create many types of art on my computer. What the fuck do yo do. My sarcasm can run just as wide as yours.

And no one sells the dried sclerotia from Holland through the mail which would get someone busted there and many are carefully treading the line so they can stay in business.

I know the owners of these shops and I have seen their warehouses of thousands of shrooms growing.

I know what they sell and do not sell and I do know the dosage for the slclerotia.

And Anno, I was only referring tot he fact that that sheet at erowid did not offer the individual dose in the sheet.

And I do not base the dosages on what I eat and do not eat.

First off, I doubt that you could ingest the amount of any drug that I consume.

I eat thirty grams of fresh sclerotia and talk with the spirts, not to them.

mj

So my pictures are pretty.

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407484 - 03/25/03 02:51 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Now Now children, lets all get along...
Sounds to me like this was a simple misunderstanding, nothing more. You are both right, 15 grams WET is a good dose, and so is 2 grams DRY. Nuff said. I really hate it when people bitch at each other over nothing. Just my two cents though, so leave me out of it...

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407486 - 03/25/03 02:53 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Funny, when I oipen the image it is really easy to read and then it shroiveols up with the page.

mj, However, dsave it to your folder and open it on your computer and you should be able to read it

mj

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407548 - 03/25/03 03:30 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: mjshroomer]
    #1407555 - 03/25/03 03:34 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Ey thank guys...
TAke it easy.
As we say in Spain...
???Buen Rollito!!!

I prefer visual tha introspective trips, but i suppose with tampanensis i will have some nice visuals to..
I think i'ts better to know yourself through your senses, to find yourself in the world than digging inside...

The Universe is huge, and we are small..
hehehehe

HAve fun!

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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: Kapa]
    #1407589 - 03/25/03 03:50 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Mexicana are ok but they do have a big drawback compared to cubensis in that they have a long stoned hangover that can disrupt your sleep for a couple of nights. Personally I'd pick cubensis every time but if you don't want to grow cubensis it's easier to buy the sclerotica.

Incidentally, I'd dry them and capsule em first. I know they say the sclerotica tastes better but not to me - i was gagging after a couple of mouthfuls. Had to dry them out to get them down.


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Re: PHILOSOPHER STONES : P.TAMPANENSIS [Re: Kapa]
    #1407637 - 03/25/03 04:13 AM (21 years, 3 months ago)

Ok, you got your answer, I?m gona close this before it gets even nastier.

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