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giza


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If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story?
#14072576 - 03/05/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Any opinions/insight on this?
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Icelander
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14072636 - 03/05/11 08:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nothing is wrong with it. Unless you preach it to others as truth.
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14072683 - 03/05/11 08:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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How many people have been killed because of a story? 'Witches burned', Inquisition, homosexuals beaten and discriminated against because of some Biblical passage, same with Blacks because of the story they they are 'Mud People' and less than human.
So you see nothing wrong with false stories?
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#14072742 - 03/05/11 08:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, I am conflicted with it at the moment, that's why I asked for insight. I believe it is fine to believe them for mental closure.
@Icelander, yes, good point, I believe that also.
Edited by giza (03/05/11 08:32 PM)
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14072929 - 03/05/11 09:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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We are all believing stories. The question is only what story. We need our stories to protect our fragile self images. The quality of your story determines your experience to a large degree. But even if your story sucks and makes you and everyone around you squirm you will most likely defend it with everything you got.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: Icelander]
#14073036 - 03/05/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nothing. The rest of us will keep trying to find the truth while you sit in fairy world. Have fun, don't hurt yourself.
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giza


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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? *DELETED* [Re: mushiepussy]
#14073042 - 03/05/11 09:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Post deleted by gizaReason for deletion: My bad.
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giza


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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14073047 - 03/05/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This was a question to base on how to think of the people that believe in the stories of religon and spirituality.(For myself)
Edited by giza (03/05/11 09:47 PM)
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14073068 - 03/05/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
giza said:
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mushiepussy said: Nothing. The rest of us will keep trying to find the truth while you sit in fairy world. Have fun, don't hurt yourself.
Nice assumption.
Ditto. I was talking to whoever acts this way, not you brutha.
I know what your point wass, that's why I said what I said. Religion just allows people to settle with stories, while the real world is working for progress. I hope they are happy, and I hope their ignorance doesn't hurt them.
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: mushiepussy]
#14073074 - 03/05/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ah, I see. I will delete it.
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giza


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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14073075 - 03/05/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thought when you said 'you', you were directing it to me.
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14073078 - 03/05/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
giza said: This was a question to base on how to think of the people that believe in the stories of religon and spirituality.(For myself)
What are you conflicted about?
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: Cups]
#14073084 - 03/05/11 09:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Whether or not it is bad karma to relieve your own suffering through something that may be false.
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: Cups]
#14073096 - 03/05/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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How do you know karma isn't false?
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: mushiepussy]
#14073105 - 03/05/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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it is false.
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giza


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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: Cups]
#14073106 - 03/05/11 09:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I know that's it's possible it is false. But I've already integrated into my life enough that if I drop a pencil I wonder what caused that imperfection.
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giza


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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14073112 - 03/05/11 09:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It has been working for me, but I'm not closed off to other possibilities, just testing the beliefs of karma out.
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14073126 - 03/05/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i should have said karma is false in the mythical sense.
I think that all actions have a reaction, but the reaction is predictable and logical. Nothing happens without a reason, but that reason is never supernatural.
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giza


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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: mushiepussy]
#14073137 - 03/05/11 10:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I figured how do I really know for sure if I don't apply it and try it myself.
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Re: If you can't find the truth, what's wrong with believing a story? [Re: giza]
#14073210 - 03/05/11 10:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Because I think if everything we know about the universe is logical, why should we assume anything else of life choices? If you simply think about the effects of your action thoroughly, you don't need an idea like karma to base your decisions off of. The human mind is tricky, I think ideas like karma are perceptions of actual truths, because logically a wrong action will cause turmoil in the future, and a right action will be bring peace, but these phenomena can be fully explained by logic. All IMO.
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