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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: biologys]
    #14072760 - 03/05/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would at least like to add some worm casings or something to give it some nutes, I am afraid I won't get optimum results without a nutritious bulk sub, the Damion's 50/50 just looks like it would just be a filler and the myc would only have the rye to feed off of, producing lower yields.


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14072786 - 03/05/11 08:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

coir itself is nutrtitous there are a ton of massive yeilding monotub's off straight coir by itself..


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: biologys]
    #14072796 - 03/05/11 08:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Cool I will just do Damion's 50/50 then and try it out, then mess around with the mix some other time. Thx Bio:awesomenod::thumbup:


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14072813 - 03/05/11 08:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)




nothing huge, but all my tubs up until now were straight coir...but do a search man, tons of huge grows with straight coir on here..


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: biologys]
    #14072835 - 03/05/11 08:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i get lots of small to med ...some 40-50gm..my biggest went 80 ...very strong..you don't need coffee with hpoo..add some worm castings ..it has benefical microbes and nitrogen the mushies like..coir i save for the top casing..but i add straw..cubes will grow on just straw or just poo or coir.gypsum helps all subs..i think ..check your ph. find a tek you like.if i could give solid advice..i'd say ..work on your grains...learn good pasteurize tek..you will find the sub mix you like thats easy to get.


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: penhed]
    #14073035 - 03/05/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Not really worried about weight, I want massive pinsets. I generally harvest just before or when the veil just starts to break. I like doing this because it seems like you get a better effect while eating less when you harvest early.

I may leave one or two to flatten out a bit to make some prints, but I won't sell them because I consider them sacred and I would feel like I was profiting from something that God gave to us to benefit from for free. The only reason I want to do bulk is so that I can have enough for me and some friends to all eat at the same time. My cakes are giving me 3 grams dry at a time, at different times from different cakes and that is barely enough for me to eat and I don't save them for very long lol:tripping2:.

As long as Damion's 50/50 tek will give me a good 40 or 50 pins at once I will be good with that. I have all the materials I need except the coir, the polyfil, and the quart jars. I should be cooking in a week or less and then I will start building my exhaust system for a hybrid mono to try on the next round. I will buy a can of oust, make a glovebox and some self healing lids with tyvek filters, buy some face masks, turn off the heaters and do it very clean so hopefully I will get by on my first two flushes at least with no contams. Then I will start taking pics and make a grow log hopefully with some good porn with lots of pins.

After I get my exhause tube built I will use my used perlite to bring a unused mono to 95+% humidity and turn on the exhaust to see if I can tweak it to exchange air and hold humidity. I believe if I can do it it may be a new tek in the future.
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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14073087 - 03/05/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if you go with coir you can always add 5-10% gypsum to supply some more nutrients....Simple and cheap.  A bag of gypsum should last you a while.....


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14073095 - 03/05/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What are you using a fan for?....just curious but how was your potency for your first flush or 2?


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: i GrOw StUFF]
    #14073119 - 03/05/11 09:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What are you using a fan for?....just curious but how was your potency for your first flush or 2?



It is just another crazy idea of mine for fruiting stage, move the air constantly 24/7 but not so much to drop the RH. I think it will get much better FAE if I can get it to work without dropping the humidity or drying the sub. The idea has a computer fan in a pvc tube stuffed with polyfil to just barely draw air through the top holes and exhaust it from the bottom hole with the fan tube attached.
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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14073127 - 03/05/11 10:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

true i forgot the gypsum, i always use gypsum in soak water and in bulk substrates.


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14073156 - 03/05/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My first flush was either really potent or I ate way too much, I was wishing it would just stop after about 5 hours. My second flush I bought a scale and only took 3.2 grams dry of the creeper strain, it was a good mellow visual experience with no anxiety. The first time was B+ and they absolutely blew my mind, but like I said I have no idea how much it was except that it looked like over twice what I took when I took the three grams the second time.


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14073171 - 03/05/11 10:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Plus I always pick them small, so 3 grams of my small ones will hit you harder than a 3 gram giant dry shroom.
So if my first dose was about 6 grams dry and they were all but 2, really small shrooms I understand why the walls were moving so much...


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14073602 - 03/05/11 11:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I have watched RR's video on grain prep but the free clip leaves out key info, after boiling how do I steam dry the rye berries so they can be placed in the jar at the right saturation for pressure cooking. And since my PC only cooks at 10 PSI would cooking them for 2 hours at that pressure be okay?

Also he just adds a pinch of gypsum, is there a better measurement that I could do for each quart. Could someone point me towards a good rye berry pasteurization tek link plz?


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14073636 - 03/05/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i'd say go 2.5 hours to be safe since only doing 10 psi..

a pinch is what it means just take a pinch between two fingers and drop in the jar..

you dont pasteurize grains, you sterilize them, his video is the best tek, but there are 100's of grain tek's man most are about the same..

the way you steam the grains dry is once you boil/simmer then you dump into a strainer, and they will be steaming hot, every 20-30 minutes stire the grains and they will start steaming again..


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: biologys]
    #14073704 - 03/06/11 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

THX Bio:awesomenod::thumbup:


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: biologys]
    #14073749 - 03/06/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i'd say go 2.5 hours to be safe since only doing 10 psi..

a pinch is what it means just take a pinch between two fingers and drop in the jar..

you dont pasteurize grains, you sterilize them, his video is the best tek, but there are 100's of grain tek's man most are about the same..

the way you steam the grains dry is once you boil/simmer then you dump into a strainer, and they will be steaming hot, every 20-30 minutes stire the grains and they will start steaming again..



2.5 hours wouldn't burn or dry out the rye?


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14073813 - 03/06/11 12:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

nope, as long as your put enough water in it so it doesn't boil dry you grains will be the same condition weither it be 30 minutes, or 3 hours..


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: biologys]
    #14075368 - 03/06/11 12:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Two questions...

One, would it be okay to use extra lid rings and aluminum foil in bottom of PC if I don't have a canning rack?

Two, what kind of store can you get bulk organic rye berries from? I can't afford internet ordered shipping for it so I need a kind of store that would sell big bags of it like 50 pounds. I checked health food stores and the only carry like 32 ounce bags and are expensive. Would feed stores have organic rye berries?


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: 3n1gm4]
    #14075382 - 03/06/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

you oan get your rye from feed stores...

yes you can use jar lids on the bottom of the pc


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Re: Starting first mono tub bulk OHMATIC style(HELP PLEASE) [Re: biologys]
    #14075461 - 03/06/11 12:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You don't need tyvek. Use polyfil and high temp engine silicone for your injection ports. You only need one port per lid with grain.10mL should be enough spore solution.


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