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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14071751 - 03/05/11 04:41 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

Well it's not just cutting your head off. It's breaking into your culture and raping it as was done to the American Indians. And again that women who wanted me shot was not two centuries old.  She was that ugly however. Again if you really believe Christians are harmless I have to question your sanity. They would if possible make personal freedom in this country even more of a joke than it already is.  Death is not the only thing one need fear.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14071780 - 03/05/11 04:46 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

Who said anything about chopping heads? 

"Qur'an (2:256) "Let there be no compulsion in religion"

Granted muslims have a record of violent forced conversion, as do the other religions, but forced conversion is an belief that hold a minority among Muslims, and is arguably un-Islamic.

My original point is that The Abrahamic religions demand their flocks to believe in their particular prophecies, and their prophecies say that everyone will eventually convert to that said religion.

Thus by nature of believing in said Abrahamic religion, said religion demands all followers hold the beliefs that all will eventually convert.

By nature of them believing it, They make possible for it to become self-fulfilling.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Shins]
    #14071839 - 03/05/11 05:00 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

I do not believe that is in the Torah.  The Jews are actually quite skeptical of converts, in spite of your tortured reasoning.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14071843 - 03/05/11 05:01 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

That woman was, as I said aberrant.  And fuck the Amer-Indian bullshit.  They were conquerors themselves.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14071882 - 03/05/11 05:08 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

Almost all if not all peoples are conquerors.

That's really what all this is about. You want to conquer rather than be conquered.  It's as simple as that.

Oh by the way what happened to the American Indians wasn't bullshit. It's what happens. I have no illusions of them being the good guy but what we did was particularly brutal in our conquering.

That woman is not aberrant. I've traveled in the south east and been to some of these baptist churches. I used to be a Christian.  I know how they think and what would happen if they had the resources. 

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14071902 - 03/05/11 05:12 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

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Almost all if not all peoples are conquerors.

That's really what all this is about. You want to conquer rather than be conquered.  It's as simple as that.

Oh by the way what happened to the American Indians wasn't bullshit. It's what happens. I have no illusions of them being the good guy but we were particularly brutal in our conquering.

That woman is not aberrant. I've traveled in the south east and been to some of these baptist churches. I know how they think and what would happen if they had the resources.  I can believe you are defending those pigs. Frank would be proud.




I lived in Lexington KY for 3 years around 1980 and I didn't meet one single person like that.  Not one.  You don't know shit.

I'm not defending that woman.  I'm challenging your bigotry that she is representative.  Frank is proud of me.  He told me so.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14071918 - 03/05/11 05:17 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

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Most of the scriptural requirements concerning the Messiah, what he will do, and what will be done during his reign are located in the Book of Isaiah, although requirements are mentioned by other prophets as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_messianism
    * Isaiah 1:26: "And I will restore your judges as at first and your counsellors as in the beginning; afterwards you shall be called City of Righteousness, Faithful City." Some Jews interpret this to mean that the Sanhedrin will be re-established. (Isaiah 1:26)
    * Once he is King, leaders of other nations will look to him for guidance. (Isaiah 2:4)
    * The whole world will worship the One God of Israel (Isaiah 2:11-17)
    * He will be descended from King David (Isaiah 11:1) via Solomon (1 Chronicles 22:8-10, 2 Chronicles 7:18)
    * The "spirit of the Lord" will be upon him, and he will have a "fear of God" (Isaiah 11:2)
    * Evil and tyranny will not be able to stand before his leadership (Isaiah 11:4)
    * Knowledge of God will fill the world (Isaiah 11:9)
    * He will include and attract people from all cultures and nations (Isaiah 11:10)
    * All Israelites will be returned to their homeland (Isaiah 11:12)
    * Death will be swallowed up forever (Isaiah 25:8)
    * There will be no more hunger or illness, and death will cease (Isaiah 25:8)
    * All of the dead will rise again (Isaiah 26:19)
    * The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)
    * He will be a messenger of peace (Isaiah 52:7)
    * Nations will recognize the wrongs they did to Israel (Isaiah 52:13-53:5)
    * The peoples of the world will turn to the Jews for spiritual guidance (Zechariah 8:23)
    * The ruined cities of Israel will be restored (Ezekiel 16:55)
    * Weapons of war will be destroyed (Ezekiel 39:9)
    * The people of Israel will have direct access to the Torah through their minds and Torah study will become the study of the wisdom of the heart (Jeremiah 31:33)[2]
    * He will give you all the worthy desires of your heart (Psalms 37:4)
    * He will take the barren land and make it abundant and fruitful (Isaiah 51:3, Amos 9:13-15, Ezekiel 36:29-30, Isaiah 11:6-9)






The biggest difference with Judaism seems to be that; All will acknowledge the supremacy, leadership, and spiritual guidance of Judaism,  But only Jews will reap the benefits.

At least Christianity and Islam spread the wealth. 


"The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)"

You're a Goyum Gentile?

You can support the Jews' joy and utopia your labor and enslavement.


It's not hard to find violent overt examples of Muslims focus towards their Prophecies.

It's also not hard to find subversive, sneaky, stealth, violent, Kleptomaniac and coercive Jews working towards goals of thier own prophecies.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14071930 - 03/05/11 05:20 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

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I do not believe that is in the Torah.  The Jews are actually quite skeptical of converts, in spite of your tortured reasoning.




That's because they want to keep benefits of their messianic age all for themselves.

They expect all to bow down though however.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14071937 - 03/05/11 05:21 PM (13 years, 17 hours ago)

And I'll bet you hung out with fundy Christians and went to church every week. You don't have a clue. Don't forget God hates Fags. 

I've actually met Frank? He never mentioned being proud of you once.

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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14071982 - 03/05/11 05:33 PM (13 years, 16 hours ago)

I don't know a lot about the Muslim religion but I found this in a search. Muhammad spent the first thirteen years of his prophethood living under oppression in his home city of Mecca.During this time, the Quran specifically prohibited Muhammad from armed resistance.Instead it encouraged him to "bear with patience" and tell his opponents "to you your religion, to me mine."

If this is true and the religion states a prohibition on armed resistance than those guys who want to cut my head off are aberrant also.

Again this is age  old battle between humans for resources. Religion is just a weapon  in the hands of violent would be  conquerors.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Icelander]
    #14074972 - 03/06/11 10:23 AM (13 years, 5 minutes ago)

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And I'll bet you hung out with fundy Christians and went to church every week. You don't have a clue. Don't forget God hates Fags.




No I didn't but apparently you did.  Are you daft enough to believe that the Westboro assholes are representative or even a significant minority?  They are not.  They are, in fact, reviled.  Meanwhile, in muzzieland, we have streets named after suicide bombers.  Just stop.  There is not even the remotest equivalence.
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I've actually met Frank? He never mentioned being proud of you once.




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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: Shins]
    #14075007 - 03/06/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Most of the scriptural requirements concerning the Messiah, what he will do, and what will be done during his reign are located in the Book of Isaiah, although requirements are mentioned by other prophets as well.






The biggest difference with Judaism seems to be that; All will acknowledge the supremacy, leadership, and spiritual guidance of Judaism,  But only Jews will reap the benefits.




That's a difference?  Christians believe your soul is doomed without accepting christ and Muslims believe you should be put to the sword if you don't accept mohhamed.  I'll remain a little more concerned with my corporeal being than my soul
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At least Christianity and Islam spread the wealth.




Here we go with the hand out.  And the Muzzies "spread the wealth"?  :rofl2:  The recent riots say otherwise.
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"The Jewish people will experience eternal joy and gladness (Isaiah 51:11)"

You're a Goyum Gentile?

You can support the Jews' joy and utopia your labor and enslavement.




I'm a fucking atheist as I have stated dozens, if not hundreds, of times.  I have had very successful business dealings with many, many Jews.  They have all been fair and honorable.
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It's not hard to find violent overt examples of Muslims focus towards their Prophecies.

It's also not hard to find subversive, sneaky, stealth, violent, Kleptomaniac and coercive Jews working towards goals of thier own prophecies.




I don't think you're ignorant, I think you're jealous.  I have never been ripped off in a deal with a Jew.  I cannot say that about everybody.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075048 - 03/06/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Ever been ripped off by a muslim?


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075096 - 03/06/11 11:01 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I did hang with those fools. I was a christian back in the day.  My bad.  They feared anyone who was different and were threatened by almost everything.  No shit.  I know every christian ain't like that but I'm pretty sure every muslim ain't a fundy killer either.

I think you've been talking to Frank Sinatra by mistake.:shrug:


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075102 - 03/06/11 11:03 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I think you're jealous.

Actually envious is the correct term. Unless of course there's something you're not telling us. :lol:


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    #14075119 - 03/06/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

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Ever been ripped off by a muslim?



No.  But that is because I've never dealt with any.


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075223 - 03/06/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Not much to fear then. :shrug: Considering your age having never dealt with a Muslim is an indication that there aren't that many around. 

Or you haven't spent a lot of time in prison. :grin:


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: zappaisgod]
    #14075225 - 03/06/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

Current Klan splinter divisions have grown substantially since the 2008 election of U.S. President Barack Obama, the first African-American to hold the office;[135][136] the Klan has expanded its recruitment efforts to white supremacists at the international level.[137] Current membership estimates by the ADL hold at a national estimate of five thousand.[129]

Ex-Grand Wizard David Duke has claimed that thousands of Tea Party movement activists have urged him to run for president in 2012 [138] and he is seriously considering entering the Republican Party primaries.[139] Duke has also released a video detailing his platform.[140] In the video, he pledges that as president he would stop all immigration to the US, including legal immigration, and says that he "will not let Israel or any nation dictate our foreign policy."[141] He has also claimed that he would be "willing to risk life and limb, endure the barbs of the media” to mount “the most honest campaign for president since the time of our Founding Fathers.” [142]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan


The Ku Klux Klan In Prophecy is a 144 page book written by Bishop Alma Bridwell White in 1925 and illustrated by Reverend Branford Clarke.[2][3] In the book she uses scripture to rationalize that the Klan is sanctioned by God "through divine illumination and prophetic vision".[4][5] She also believed that the Apostles and the Good Samaritan were members of the Klan.[6]
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    #14075235 - 03/06/11 11:40 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

There has been a mass Hindu upsurge and rebellion against the savage killing of Hindu Leader Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati and four of his disciples at his Ashram in Khandamal District in Orissa on the 23 August 2008. Pope Benedict XVI condemned what her termed as the anti-Christian "carnage" in India, where at least 11 people were killed in first three days of violence as Christians clashed with Hindu mobs attacking churches, shops and homes. During his weekly audience at the Vatican, Pope Benedict said that he was "profoundly saddened" by the news of the violence against Christian communities in eastern India. The Pope told a crowd of faithful and pilgrims "I firmly condemn any attack on human life. I express spiritual closeness and solidarity to the brothers and sisters in faith who are being so harshly tested".

In a very clever manner the Pope has totally avoided the issue of the reasons and factors that have caused this Hindu outrage and rebellion in Orissa. The Supreme Court of India has clearly held that forced or induced conversion is illegal. There is an anti-Conversion Law in Orissa. And yet the proselytizing and militant Christian agencies like World Vision, Seventh Day Adventist Groups and various other missionary organisations in Khandamal District in Orissa, fully backed by unrestricted flow of cash from America and Europe, are engaged in the nefarious enterprise of mass conversion of innocent and illiterate poverty-stricken tribals through force or inducement or fraud for the last several decades. Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati has been leading a mass movement of tribals against this ugly phenomenon of illegal conversions for the last forty years. Christian population in Khandamal District was 6% of the population in that District in 1971 and today it has grown to a level of 28%. Statistics apart, agencies like World Vision, by virtue of their financial might and fully supported by the anti-Hindu elements in the government agencies have come to believe that they can let loose violence against the Hindus of Orissa. The marauders, very much like the Talibans of Afganisthan, have been plotting to murder Swami Lakshmanananda Saraswati and in fact they have made several attempts to achieve this end. At last they succeeded in shooting him down on the 23 August 2008 at his own Ashram.

Recently I saw a CNN-IBN video presentation showing how the militant missionaries in a village in Bihar (very much like their comrades in Orissa!) beat a Hindu to death for his refusal to convert to Christianity. Residents of Parmanpur village in Buxar District in Orissa have complained to the local public authorities that Christian missionaries are luring them to convert and threatening them with violence if they don"t obey.

According to Anjoriya Devi, her husband was beaten to death some years ago in her village in Buxar District by goons hired by missionaries. She says "They beat up my husband when he refused to convert to Christianity. They have threatened me too". Mithilesh Kumar, another resident of the same village, has alleged that the missionaries tried to lure him by offering him a job. They told me "If I remain a Hindu, I will remain unemployed and poor. I would have money and a job only if I converted to Christianity". Police in the village say they have arrested two persons after investigating the complaints. "Investigations confirm there have been instances of conversion by intimidation. We have arrested two persons", said Koran Sahay, officer in charge of the local Kuran Sarai police station. There is a paramount and imperative need for an anti-Conversion Law in Bihar.

http://www.blogs.ivarta.com/Inquisition-Goa-Atrocities-Hindus-missionaries/blog-179.htm


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Re: Fear of Sharia Law [Re: TheThinker]
    #14075238 - 03/06/11 11:41 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

That's all quite funny.

I may vote for him if he runs. We need some honesty and directness in politics.:satansmoking:


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