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Chunk5
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DXM noob help
#14071056 - 03/05/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hello Shroomery! My parents are out of town for a few days, so I figured it's time to experience some DXM. I know a lot of my questions have already been answered, but they are probably buried under a bunch of useless information.
I'm fairly experienced with psychedelics, I've done salvia 60x, shrooms, acid many times. I have never had a bad trip, and I my neighbor is a fellow tripper, and I can contact him if things start to go awry.
So lets get down to business.. I have gotten my hands on two bottles of Zicam MAX, which brings the DXM total to about 782 Mg. I understand this is quite a heavy dose.
so... 1) At this dosing range, how long will the DXM last? Will i be coherent in 2 days time?
2) Are visual distortions at all comparable to acid/ shrooms? More intense? Less intense?
3) What brain receptor does DXM affect? I take a fairly weak anti-depressant, that is neither a MAOI, or a tri-cyclic, so the risk of serotonin syndrome is non existent.
4) Is it advisable to smoke weed before, after, or during the peak? Approximately when in the peak?
Thanks for reading and hopefully I can get some answers! -Chunk
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: Chunk5]
#14071096 - 03/05/11 02:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You should just start with half of that dose if its your first time. That's what I think anyway.
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: drr]
#14071494 - 03/05/11 03:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chill out!!
782mg is QUITE a heavy dose. IMO, too much for a first timer.Do half of that first and then see how you like that...especially if you're going to smoke weed.
Let me tell you, I've only tried it once. At first, it was pretty cool, felt a little drunk and what not. Went outside for a joint, and by the time I came inside I was tripping on some mushroom level...quite scary at first.
I think DXM + Weed = WAYYY out there. BTW, my first dosage was one full pack of Cough Gels, so 300 mgs. I had CEV's, no OEV's though.
Good luck, and stay safe bro.
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Zicams are really strong and hit really quick. Do 1 your first time. And have you researched cytochrome CYP2D6 deficiency at all?
DXM affects the NMDA glutamate receptor, iirc it blocks the calcium channel between the AMPA and NMDA receptor.
Visuals can be more or less intense, mostly by dose, but they're not really similar at all to normal psychedelic visuals. Dissociatives overall are quite different from classic psychedelics.
And do you take an SSRI? That's what it sounds like. You CANNOT take DXM if you take a prescribed SSRI dose regularly, the risk of serotonin syndrome is quite high.
And should this be O.D.D.?
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Edited by R2-D2 (03/05/11 04:23 PM)
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Chunk5
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: R2-D2]
#14072256 - 03/05/11 06:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't take a SSRI, about how long does it take for it to kick in? 1/2 hour?
Thank you!
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: Chunk5]
#14072360 - 03/05/11 07:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It varies for different people, but Zicam kicks in real quick because of the PEG and lack of syrupy shit. And SNRIs are a no-go, as well. But have fun, Zicam can be tough to find.
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: R2-D2]
#14072423 - 03/05/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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dude, if you have CYP2D6 problems, youll go insane off that dose. With no dextrorphan, If you have CYP3A4 problems, youll be high for a week.
dosage advice is not allowed, but if anything take alot less, at least half less.
Also, yeah as stated before does not mix with any medication at all. SSRIs, wellbutrin, stims, ect. They might mix, but they wont be good and if they are, they are most likely doing damage. Actaully with stims ecotoxicity is easily possible.
Also some mixes will be fatal.
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: Janamil]
#14072571 - 03/05/11 07:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DXM is a bad idea in general stick with the naturals....
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drr

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Now you're gonna get it.
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: drr]
#14073158 - 03/05/11 10:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DXM is awesome. Do some research, find the dosage calculator, read up on the effects of each plateau, and make sure you have a few lazy days lined up before you take it. You do not want to waste your afterglow (some would call it a hangover) by going to work or school.
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Re: DXM noob help [Re: healing]
#14073221 - 03/05/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You should definitely take a 'normal' dose before you try this, earlier in the day.
Like, normal as in the prescribed dose on the bottle. If that doesn't make you feel anything, then continue on with your experiment.
If it makes you trip at all then you probably have an enzyme deficiency that will leave you tripping for days/weeks.
It kicks in in about 45 minutes, and really gets going by 90.
You'll wanna smoke weed after you take whatever you take. Nausea is a mother fucker. Worse than anything else I've done... To be honest you should just come into this trip with a LOT of weed to spare.
You'll either feel crappy or super-stoned the next day; it varies.
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