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Evillemon
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Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol
#14070406 - 03/05/11 11:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Alright Peeps!
how yall doing? I have a bit of a mystery on my hands right now. I just started spawning to bulk a month or two back. My first attempt was some BRF cakes of Mazatapec to a pasteurized Hpoo and straw..
Anyway the block started great but i had problems with contams, mainly a bout or two of some nasty cobweb which i think i eventually killed with H202.
Eventually i got some shrooms to grow from it, i figured it at least wasn't a wasted grow. Not many shrooms but the ones i grew were the most tasty looking Ive ever managed to grow (all previous projects just cakes with casings.).
Anyway last weekend i did 2.5 grams dried on my own. Effects came on quick, i was laid on my back on the bed listening to dark side of the moon having a great time! towards the end of the trip i started to have a serious headache and started to feel sick. Then i felt really sick, as the trip wound down i started to feel rotten ! like, Ive never felt that sick, sick to my stomach, and having pains in the gut.
Eventually i was sick, everywhere! sick til there was nothing left and then spend 2 hours in bed trying to sleep feeling like shit. Anyway i put it down to maybe something id ate earlier in the day? or maybe the couple of rums id had before i took the shrooms.
Last night me and a friend took some more, being a bit wary of this batch after last week i only took 2 grams, she had 1.5...
this time again trip came on promisingly and very quick, but after and hour we both started to feel really sick. The sick feeling got worse and worse, long story short both threw up and felt awful all night. I dont think she Will ever try them again. I will but not this batch, i was sick loads and loads and still felt rough after, they been flushed! damn things!
Anyway Ive got another bulk sub growing now with GT's. But now im seriously paranoid. I dont know what was going on with those other shrooms. Ive got a couple of theories, either there was some sort of pesticide or herbicide in the Horse manure compost i used; however i ever looked at the bag today and there is no mention of this ? it just says blended horse manure and peat (i hadn't noticed that before)The second theory is that there was a mold or contam in the substrate which got into the mushrooms? when i threw that block i noticed that there was some gunk underneath it in the tray but i assumed being a yellow gunk that it was prob just manure and water or metabolites
Here are some pics fo the shrooms, as you can see they looked v.tasty... such a shame they had to be flushed But nothing in the world would get me to eat that batch again Ive never felt so awful in my life as i did last night or last weekend. last night i was swearing that was it, no more shrooms but i love it tooo much to quit growing them but i need to find out what went wrong before ill feel confident to do any more bulk subs.
Any suggestions, theories or similar experiences? im just curious really and id like to learn what i did wrong so i can avoid doing that ever again.


Much love x
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awakendone


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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: Evillemon]
#14070420 - 03/05/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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how did you dry and store them?
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: awakendone]
#14070440 - 03/05/11 11:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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^^^ bingo
just what I was thinking.. they may have gotten nasty if not dried correctly..
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14070448 - 03/05/11 11:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you have a weak stomach?
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Evillemon
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: lessthanjake]
#14070460 - 03/05/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I never ever get sick on shrooms normally, not even on the come up. I also done a lot of truffles too and never had any problems with those. Just this batch.
I put them straight under a fan and they sat there for 24 hours, then in a box with desiccate, then back under the fan (the reason done like that is cause i cant stand the fan on in my room all night as its noisey). They were cracker dry, they just crumble up your mouth and you can snap the stems ???
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: Evillemon]
#14070470 - 03/05/11 11:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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hmm.. idunno.. did you maybe get some disaccant in the caps?
idunno.. there have been a few times where i got REALLLLLY sick, but those times were specifically because i took 6 or more grams (I used to take too much)..
basically, I was frying so hard, soooo fucked up, that it made me sick..
but i dont think that is the case..
where these all the same strain, from the same syringe?
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Evillemon
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14070520 - 03/05/11 11:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeh they all came from one spore syringe, I made 8 jars, I used 4 to make some crumble and case trays which turned out fine and the shroom were also fine. The other 4 jars i crumbled into the bulk mix...
Good point about the desiccant though! as i was writing that i thought i remember a couple of the shrooms falling down of the grid above the desiccant, i just dusted them off and put them in storage with the rest not worrying about it....could definetly be that i guess ?!
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: Evillemon]
#14070588 - 03/05/11 11:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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i honestly dont know.. i never ingested that shit, so i dont know how it would make you feel.. maybe dehydrated? hahahaha
yeah.. idunno.. did they taste any different that the others that didnt get you sick?
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Evillemon
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14070656 - 03/05/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol shrooms never taste that great hey? um no i dont think so, i think they tasted the same. I think its possible that a few grains of the silica stuff could have gotten into the caps ?
I dont know how much i would have injested though, prob a very small amount. still its the best explanation i can now think off.
I was just looking online and some one said can casue nausea, vomiting and stomach cramps but most people are saying that it wouldnt do anything?
Edited by Evillemon (03/05/11 12:14 PM)
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14070661 - 03/05/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Once i tried to dry my shrooms with desiccant they rot because it took 3 day's to dry. I got the most painful stomach pain in my live from this mushies.
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: Evillemon]
#14070684 - 03/05/11 12:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont think just a few grains would have done that.. idunno, though.. lol.. call the poison control center and ask them what happens if you ingest that shit.. hahaha
about the taste thing, sclerotia doesnt taste too bad.. and all the people that have survived eating certain "death caps" actually reported that they tasted good.. lol.. go figure..
kinda odd, but another family lost a member because they were out picking mushies in the park, and ate the wrong one.. its actually happened a few times since i have lived here.. usually over in the asian community here.. sucks.. i wouldnt wanna die from that shit..
lol
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: Luger0815]
#14070691 - 03/05/11 12:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Luger0815 said: Once i tried to dry my shrooms with desiccant they rot because it took 3 day's to dry. I got the most painful stomach pain in my live from this mushies.
thats not good eats.. lol.. food poisoning is the fucking pits..
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14070710 - 03/05/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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From that day on, you couldn't even pay me, for eating mushies that took longer than 24 hours to dry!
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DJYoshaBYD


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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: Luger0815]
#14070715 - 03/05/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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for reals.. hahaha..
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Evillemon
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: Evillemon]
#14070733 - 03/05/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol thanks for all the replies guys ! 
feel a bit better now. Must just have been eeither a bad bunch or i got some of that desiccant goop into the shrooms.
So really you reckon only eat shrooms which can be dried in 24 hours? my little fan only does the job in 48 ? i could put it all next to a radiator but i thought the heat might degrade the active chemicals ?
how do you get them to dry in 24? maybe ill invest ina dehydrator ???
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
#14070734 - 03/05/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Pain in the ass.......fail.....
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol (moved) [Re: Evillemon]
#14070958 - 03/05/11 01:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason: It's just because the human body can't digest raw mushrooms, especially dried.
You can eliminate the problem by boiling them into tea. Cooking the mushrooms makes them available to our digestive system, thus the body's natural defense against poisoning doesn't trigger the puke reaction.
I'll move this to the correct forum. RR
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#14071054 - 03/05/11 01:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That sounds like a serious issue.... Its possible you do have a bacteria or mold on them....
Or might have something in your grow that the mushrooms are picking up... Heavy metal or.... Not sure.....
Yes... Don't eat the desiccant.... That will make you really sick. Do not putt your mushrooms in contact with the desiccant.... Might need to bake off your desiccant....
Could try fresh, to see If it's your drying method....
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Evillemon
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol (moved) [Re: Luger0815]
#14071423 - 03/05/11 03:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks for the help everyone. I had a tupperware box with desicant powdered undernearth a grill/grid and used that to dry; some of the mushrooms fell though ocassionally and lay on the desiccant. I dont know if that would be enough but ive never felt sick of shrooms before, but twice in a row and another person both been very sick of this one batch.
I guess only way is to try the new batch of Golden Teachers grown on the same substrate, im not gonna pput them near desiccate and just fan dry... see how that goes and roll with that! if that doesnt work im going back to BRF cakes for now with crumble and case as it does the job and i can do it well with out any mess ups 
thanks again for the advice peeps!
much love 4 shroomery x
Edited by Evillemon (03/05/11 03:33 PM)
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Re: Is there such thing as infected mushrooms cause i got sick as hell! lol (moved) [Re: Evillemon]
#14071623 - 03/05/11 04:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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stop eating indigestible mushroom chitin. make tea :3
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