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DrMambo
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invasive species
#14069451 - 03/05/11 02:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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as a naturalist, I see invasive species as something we cannot avoid given human transport of shit all over the globe
while I'd like to maintain singular environments, I just don't see it possible in the long run, and I feel like claiming trans-continental species as unnatural/doesn't do justice to the fact that they are transported by natural means (by humans) across continents
even so, there are certain species I like to slow/inhibit, but I'm subjective on a bunch of shit
anyone care to expound/dissent/support?
(edit: threw in a "/")
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Edited by DrMambo (03/05/11 02:27 AM)
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Shroomism
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Re: invasive species [Re: DrMambo]
#14069453 - 03/05/11 02:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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so who are the invasive species? humans? we are kinda like a virus.
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Re: invasive species [Re: DrMambo]
#14069465 - 03/05/11 02:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It just seems fucked how one gets all crazy so they have to import the predator of that invasive one throwing it off further in the predator field as that animal might eat more then just what it was brought over for. Its just gunna happen no matter what so eventually the best of that type of animal will be all over destroying its competition of similar animal around the globe. That is what I kinda think if you understand as I am pretty fucking fried on some strong hash and my brain is a bit ffuskered.
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DrMambo
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Re: invasive species [Re: argg]
#14069478 - 03/05/11 02:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroomism said: so who are the invasive species? humans? we are kinda like a virus.
Nope, the way I see it, there are no invasive species. Just critters using us to expand their territory, and, eventually, critters that might use them as a foodsource in our common grounds, with our without our consent.
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argg said: It just seems fucked how one gets all crazy so they have to import the predator of that invasive one throwing it off further in the predator field as that animal might eat more then just what it was brought over for. Its just gunna happen no matter what so eventually the best of that type of animal will be all over destroying its competition of similar animal around the globe. That is what I kinda think if you understand as I am pretty fucking fried on some strong hash and my brain is a bit ffuskered.
In the long run, I feel like there is no dominant, just different niches that come about to exploit systems.
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koraks
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Re: invasive species [Re: DrMambo]
#14069537 - 03/05/11 03:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I share your views in this respect, DrMambo. The concept of invasive species is based on the implicit (and false) assumption that an ecosystem is a static balance. In the short term, this is true, and that's probably why humans tend to think of it that way. But in the long term, i.e. on a geological timescale, ecosystems are violently dynamic, with periods of relative stability alternated with mass extinctions and migrations.
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