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Arcturus17

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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14069082 - 03/04/11 11:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Pics of the jars would help... however i've had jars take 1.5 months to colonize (thats it 56-59 degree weather though)
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Arcturus17

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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... *DELETED* [Re: slapphappypill]
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14069292 - 03/05/11 01:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can't rush nature If something is growing then you are seeing signs of progress. Are you doing Pf tek? What strain is it? If it's pf jars do you have the inoculation holes left open for GE or is the top covered? Being covered could cause the stall in your growth. Pics as suggested would also help. Is the uncolonized substrate looking any different then it did at the start? If it's looking darker and wet it could be bacteria.
I've had jars take well over a month and jars finish well before 30 days. Strain and genetics plays a part. Recently,this is on wbs,my Puerto Ricans were damn near finished while my Pes H was only starting to show growth in a few places. Both inoculated on the same date.
The patience will come with time in this hobby. I think after the first grow and you have a better idea of whats going on it's easier to kick back and not stress.
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: McDude]
#14069413 - 03/05/11 01:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pics will help.. 
3 weeks has nothing to do with patience.. I wanna say its moisture content.. thats usually the problem i have seen with jars not colonizing/colonizing slow..
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my Pes H was only starting to show growth in a few places.
ya know, I thought it was me.. hahaha.. all the times i have ever had that strain, it always colonizes slow as shit.. haha
and yes.. genetics have a MAJOR role in the end result, but even then, genetics that dont show growth in 3 weeks need to be eliminated from your project, simply because, even though they might finish, the genetics are obviously crap to begin with..
for me, if I see stalling or anything odd going on after 2 weeks, i toss them and start over.. not worth wasting another week.. plus, because of the nature of grains and the fact you can shake them to distribute them, makes colonizing faster anyway..
in short, start over.. lol
where did you get your spores from?
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Arcturus17

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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14070189 - 03/05/11 10:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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whatever they needed to get rid of before it expired),
nah.. i have had spore syringes last a lllllllllllong time..
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14070282 - 03/05/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Arcturus17 said: TL;DR: how can I help myself stop worrying about progress and become more patient?
I think most of us use a combination of weed and just making up new jars.
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Doc_T]
#14070301 - 03/05/11 10:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Arcturus17 said: TL;DR: how can I help myself stop worrying about progress and become more patient?
I think most of us use a combination of weed and just making up new jars.
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Doc_T]
#14070408 - 03/05/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc_T said:
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Arcturus17 said: TL;DR: how can I help myself stop worrying about progress and become more patient?
I think most of us use a combination of weed and just making up new jars.
Find something else in the hobby to keep you busy/your mind off the jars. It's hard not to look @ them every 12 hours when you're a noob, but if you stay busy, you'll find yourself forgetting about them.
There's always work to be done in this hobby.
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: TranscendingLife]
#14070419 - 03/05/11 11:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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todlow said: It's hard not to look @ them every 12 hours seconds when you're a noob.
Fixed.
Glass-front cabinets are ideal for this reason.
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Doc_T]
#14070434 - 03/05/11 11:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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todlow said: It's hard not to look @ them every 12 hours seconds when you're a noob.
Fixed.
Glass-front cabinets are ideal for this reason. 

Yup, that's why I got this..
I don't even have to move the jars to check the bottoms
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: TranscendingLife]
#14070443 - 03/05/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I love the post-its! 
Bottom center jar looks a bit funky, btw.
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Doc_T]
#14070467 - 03/05/11 11:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Doc_T said: I love the post-its! 
Bottom center jar looks a bit funky, btw.
Yea, I got tired of cleaning the exterior of my jars w/ nailpolish remover...damn sharpies...
they turned out fine...thanks though. That's about a month old pic. What seemed funky about them though? They were a G2G...
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Arcturus17

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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... *DELETED* [Re: TranscendingLife]
#14072058 - 03/05/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14073220 - 03/05/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Bummer, that's not going to do anything. You need to start some fresh jars.
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14074849 - 03/06/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hard to say. Old/weak/contaminated spores and/or incorrect jar prep. Could be a lot of things.
I'd start some new jars, preferably with new spores. And get a pressure cooker, it opens up a lot of options.
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biologys
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14078871 - 03/06/11 11:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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order your syringes from a sponsor here
I recommend ralphstersspores.com or sporeworks.com
PC your jars for 90 minutes for best sterilization
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Arcturus17

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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14078944 - 03/06/11 11:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah sometimes genetic's just suck, its a crapshoot with MS syringes
:shrugs: idk i always go with ralphsters for syringes so i cant speak from personal experience on sporeworks i just know they have a good rep here..
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Re: I Am Not Well Versed In The Art Of Patience... [Re: Arcturus17]
#14117025 - 03/13/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Arcturus17 said: So those PE jars I mentioned are now at T + 18 days and showing zero growth still. And I do mean zero: I cracked one open and took a look at the sub- nothing. Didn't even smell like mushrooms, just damp BRF. I used Bob's Red Mill or whatever BRF, but nowhere on the package does it say organic or non-treated. People have said they've had good luck with this brand, but I'm getting bupkus for results. I just went and bought a coffee grinder and some long grain brown rice, in hopes that that will produce some results with the next batch of jars. This new rice doesn't say organic either, but I doubt they would treat whole grain rice with anything. Right?
Also worth mentioning: I inoculated the jars when they were still only slightly warm to the touch. Would the heat still in the substrate have killed the spores?
TL;DR: 18 days and all of my new jars are still at absolute 0% colonization. WTF?
I've used that same brand (Red Mill) BRF in the 3 grows I've done, and although it doesn't say organic (which means it might have fungicides in it) I've had myc growth all 3 times. Don't think its the BRF, but good luck to you with grinding your own! And I hope someone more experienced chimes in on why your jars might still be at 0%.
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