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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Poid] 3
#14067964 - 03/04/11 07:40 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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Poid said: I would totally get a pre-nup if I ever get married. 
Yeah, because all the womenz are totally clambering to steal away your hot sauce and yoga mat.
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learningtofly
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14068014 - 03/04/11 07:52 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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DieCommie said: Maybe be a pre-nup requirement for him to get at the trust fund. 
Why would he need a pre-nup to get access to a trust fund?
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Well, there are a lot of reasons.
Tax Benefits
-Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
-Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.
Estate Planning Benefits
-Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
-Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
-Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
-Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.
Government Benefits
-Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
-Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
-Receiving public assistance benefits.
Employment Benefits
-Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
-Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
-Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
-Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.
Medical Benefits
-Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
-Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.
Death Benefits
-Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
-Making burial or other final arrangements.
Family Benefits
-Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
-Applying for joint foster care rights.
-Visitation if you divorce.
Consumer Benefits
-Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
-Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
-Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.
Other Legal Benefits and Protections
-Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
-Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
-Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
-Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
-Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14068062 - 03/04/11 08:02 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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DieCommie said: Marriage was one of the best things to ever happen to me. I figured it would be very similar to being faithful boyfriend/girlfriend but somehow it made our relationship even stronger and better. There is something about taking an oath out loud in front of your closest friends and family.
Agreed. It is definitely not for everyone, as most of my friends and relatives can tell you. I have been married for 7 years and It has only gotten better. You just have to respect each other and truly love each other.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14068082 - 03/04/11 08:07 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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My boyfriend and I will've been together 10 years this coming September(I'm 27-he's 26). We also have a 3 year old son. We've talked about getting married, and even though I said it's not THAT big a deal to me, he's the one that wants the wedding. I think we should set up a wedding type ceremony and give each other rings and stuff, but not really done by anyone that would constitute a legally bound marriage.
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DieCommie said: There is something about taking an oath out loud in front of your closest friends and family.
This is what I think makes a wedding special. I want my boyfriend to know this is why I'm doing it...not what benefits I'll be getting out of it
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14068095 - 03/04/11 08:09 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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So marriage is all about the legal benefits and only the legal benefits in your eyes?
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BothHands
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No, not to me. But with all the hate on marriage in this thread, I figured I'd give some practical reasons.
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My marriage kicks ass. I married someone who is now my best friend and partner in crime. (helps she's known me since 3rd grade- 34 now)
I wanted to marry her to show her I was committed to our relationship.
We also had a kick ass reception with lots of booze flowing and We had The Schwag come down from St. Louis and play.
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igwna
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
then don't "get" married. 
i don't feel like marriage is necessary either. i mean, it used to be different back when divorce was practically unheard of.
i don't see any reason to get married myself. if i fall in love, i fall in love. its gonna take me a damn long time to agree to getting married, but if its the right girl.. i'll know.
getting married seems like a good way to lose half your shit.. especially if you rush into it.
it also kind of seems like some people would want to get married out of insecurity. 'you're my wife/husband therefor you will be with ME for the rest of my life.'
a safety blanket of sorts. 
one thing i kinda dislike about the shroomery.. is that if someone doesn't agree with someone, they immediately claim that the alternative belief is "stupid." and anyone who believes it is the same. i think thats quite ridiculous and... well, definitely not very "open-minded," as most people here would have the rest of us believe. 
i'm not pointing fingers at you rofl_my_waffle.. your thread just reminded me. just sayin.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: igwna]
#14068386 - 03/04/11 09:26 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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theMERRYiguana said:
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
then don't "get" married. 
i don't feel like marriage is necessary either. i mean, it used to be different back when divorce was practically unheard of.
i don't see any reason to get married myself. if i fall in love, i fall in love. its gonna take me a damn long time to agree to getting married, but if its the right girl.. i'll know.
getting married seems like a good way to lose half your shit.. especially if you rush into it.
it also kind of seems like some people would want to get married out of insecurity. 'you're my wife/husband therefor you will be with ME for the rest of my life.'
a safety blanket of sorts. 
one thing i kinda dislike about the shroomery.. is that if someone doesn't agree with someone, they immediately claim that the alternative belief is "stupid." and anyone who believes it is the same. i think thats quite ridiculous and... well, definitely not very "open-minded," as most people here would have the rest of us believe. 
i'm not pointing fingers at you rofl_my_waffle.. your thread just reminded me. just sayin.
Thanks for not pointing fingers. Haha
I don't think it's stupid at all--I just have a hard time understanding it.
Maybe someday I will.
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You can't even understand doing it for the legal benefits? I mean if you're going to be together anyway, you may as well sign up for the hundreds of legal benefits.
Obviously that's not all there is to it, but from a logical and practical point of view, how can you not understand marriage?
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14068486 - 03/04/11 09:45 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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Your all idiots and my opinion is the only correct one
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igwna
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Herbal said: Your all idiots and my opinion is the only correct one 
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That's absolutely not what I said. I was asking a question, and hoping for an answer.
What don't you understand about it?
How is it worse than not being married (assuming you have a prenup)?
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
I am not reading any other replies but here is my story, to stoned to read.
My wife said in her younger years, I will never get married.
I my self never really though about it.
After 5 years of togetherness and 4 years of being living together, we realized one thing. That one thing is benefits. It is just a piece of paper.
Neither of us have rings. We got married by a judge that rolled up on a harley in a park that later got busted for pot.
Marriage it a legal term.
It can wreck you or make your life better.
It is all about working the system : edit -- that sounds wrong.
in all honesty if there was no benefit, I would possibly be not married, but yet I would still feel the same and be still where I am. Loving my gal.
We still tease each other... haha you my wife oh yeah well your my husband 
Oh and the wife just said she like being married, so do I. So i guess it does run deeper. Besides if a truck smashes me into the ground, she gets all my stuff.
Edited by 4runner (03/04/11 09:56 PM)
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: igwna]
#14068548 - 03/04/11 09:57 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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Many people get married to start a family. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this reason.
Kids are best raised by married parents, no offense to all the lil' bastards out there.
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Goddamnit. I saw ROFl_MY_WAFFLE's sig and now I want waffles!!
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learningtofly said:
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DieCommie said: Maybe be a pre-nup requirement for him to get at the trust fund. 
Why would he need a pre-nup to get access to a trust fund?
Often times rich parents make that a condition of the fund, to keep the wealth safe from seductresses.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14068620 - 03/04/11 10:14 PM (13 years, 1 day ago) |
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BothHands said: That's absolutely not what I said. I was asking a question, and hoping for an answer.
What don't you understand about it?
How is it worse than not being married (assuming you have a prenup)?
Even though it has many benefits, it could have just as many negative repercussions (depending on the couple of course.) I've seen tons of marriages go to shit, a ton go OKAY, and not that many go fantastically well. 
The chances of having a very happy AND long-lasting marriage doesn't seem very high to me. When I posted this thread, I didn't see why people would just throw in for something like that.
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Ima Trooper said: Goddamnit. I saw ROFl_MY_WAFFLE's sig and now I want waffles!!
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