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Is there anything more annoying...
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than the laughter of small children?
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Children crying and whining.
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Isn't a child's laughter supposed to be heartwarming?
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Crying babies.
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OrgoneConclusion said: than the laughter of small children?
The only things I can think of his hearing a speech by the president, or hearing a tv evangelist pray.
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OrgoneConclusion said: than the laughter of small children?
Adults that cry and whine like children?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: n.dangerously]
#14074991 - 03/06/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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(One of many I'm sure)
Taking a shit only to hear that when you are in the middle of it your door bell ring.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: skippyluvs]
#14075000 - 03/06/11 10:30 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You ignore wiping your ass.    
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Icelander]
#14075003 - 03/06/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: You ignore wiping your ass.     
Haha no I meant ignore the door bell.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: skippyluvs]
#14075006 - 03/06/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Quote:
OrgoneConclusion said: than the laughter of small children?
Children being brats, talking back, being disrespectful... makes me wanna grab them by there cute little legs and whip them into a tree with all my strength.
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the giggling of drunk teen girls.
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OrgoneConclusion said: than the laughter of small children?
Little white kids sayin' "Nigga!" in their NY caps that they haven't even taken the fucking sticker off of.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Tropism]
#14075542 - 03/06/11 01:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I got a few.. People complaining about things they can change. People who are addicts that blame the drugs and not themselves. People who cry with the intent of gaining sympathy/pity. Those TV religous shows where he 'heals' people. Obese people who cry and complain because they're fat. Black people who tell the muslims to go back home. (It happened to them, and now they are dishing it out, which makes them no better than the whites who did it to them.) People who act differently from who they are to be socially accepted.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: giza]
#14075560 - 03/06/11 01:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I have anti-social disorder so I could say people as a whole but I know there are some 'honest' people out there (Found that one out by coming to this forum), but I feel as if I can tell if a person's intentions when having a conversation with them, which sometimes makes it
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: deranger]
#14075576 - 03/06/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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deranger said: the giggling of drunk teen girls.
Before you take advantage of them or afterwards - at the trial?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: giza]
#14075613 - 03/06/11 01:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Did something happen in your child hood for example a traumatic event that gave you the irrational belief that all people are out to take advantage of you?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: giza]
#14075645 - 03/06/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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but I feel as if I can tell if a person's intentions when having a conversation with them
If you really could do that you could be a million dollars richer. That - or you are deluding yourself.
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Constantly barking dogs!
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Complexicated]
#14075683 - 03/06/11 01:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: AltecLansing]
#14075691 - 03/06/11 01:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is there anything more annoying...
When someone proceeds to tell a story i have NO interest in and it takes every ounce of energy to act like i'm interested... Especially when someone says "Have you seen (such and such movie or tv show)?" I say "No" Then they proceed to tell a story about that movie or tv show i have not heard of and again it takes every ounce of energy to try and give a fuck...
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Cognitive_Shift said: Children being brats, talking back, being disrespectful... makes me wanna grab them by there cute little legs and whip them into a tree with all my strength.
quality image there, sir.
I also hate people who say they'll be somewhere meeting you at a specific time and don't show up until an hour later. If you make a verbal commitment, you better damn well keep it!
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What kind of ass is bothered by other humans being happy?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: zappaisgod]
#14075789 - 03/06/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My dad?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Icelander]
#14075795 - 03/06/11 02:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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That explains a lot about you.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: zappaisgod]
#14075825 - 03/06/11 02:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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For sure my old man was a total prick.
Still trying to figure out how to explain you.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Icelander]
#14076068 - 03/06/11 03:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Crying babies/babies screaming and smiling cuz they can't talk/screaming children/children talking in the movie theater/children crying at the fucking store will all burn in hell.
I have no special place in my heart for babies, those "mewling little cabbages" as Bill Hicks put it. My heart is reserved for Hicks, Noam Chomsky, Hofmann, Shulgin, George Carlin, Pink Floyd, and yet another section for George Carlin.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: 5-HT2A]
#14076121 - 03/06/11 03:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Were we separated at birth?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: zappaisgod]
#14076131 - 03/06/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What kind of ass is bothered by other humans being happy?
Asses who can't respect ignorance, lack of social awareness, narcissism, and perpetual self-indulgent thinking. God bless their souls, for they recognize that not every smile is a good thing.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Icelander]
#14076428 - 03/06/11 04:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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For sure my old man was a total prick.
Still trying to figure out how to explain you.
You have no chance. Though many have tried none have ever figured out more than a piece.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: zappaisgod]
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: zappaisgod]
#14076448 - 03/06/11 04:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't really want to know. It must be something like the movie Alien.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Icelander]
#14076453 - 03/06/11 04:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I don't really want to know. It must be something like the movie Alien. 
Like I said, you have no chance.
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OrgoneConclusion said: than the laughter of small children?
knowing that those children could be tied up in your dismemberment lab waiting for their doom, but instead they are luaghing.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: zappaisgod]
#14077321 - 03/06/11 07:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said: What kind of ass is bothered by other humans being happy?
Dunno. Where did you come up with that?
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Think he's referring to your op.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Icelander]
#14078464 - 03/06/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Once again demonstrating a reading comprehension problem. I never said I found the laughter of small children to be annoying. This is the danger of making assumptions.
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OrgoneConclusion said: Once again demonstrating a reading comprehension problem. I never said I found the laughter of small children to be annoying.
You asked "Is there anything more annoying..."; if you think there might be something more annoying than the laughter of small children, then this means you think that their laughter is at least a little bit annoying. It's kinda like if someone says "You're gay.", and you respond with "Not nearly as gay as you.", you're saying that you're at least a little bit gay.
If you don't think child laughter is annoying, then it would be nonsensical for you to ask whether or not there is anything more annoying than it; this would be like you asking "Is there anything more black than white?" because, in your view, neither child laughter or whiteness are either annoying or black respectively to any degree.
If babies aren't annoying, then they can't be more annoying than anything else, just like how whiteness can't be more black than anything else because it isn't black; that you're asking a question about whether or not there is anything more annoying than child laughter means that you believe it is at least somewhat annoying.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid]
#14078749 - 03/06/11 11:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If children's laughter has an annoyance level of zero, then...
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You asked "is there anything more annoying than", not "is there anything that has a higher annoyance level than"; the former question implies that child laughter is at least somewhat annoying, while the latter does not.
For example, if you asked "Is there anything heavier than this rock?", you would be implying that this rock has at least some weight because you are asking if there are any other objects that, when their weight is compared to the weight of this rock, are shown to be heavier; this rock has to have at least some degree of heaviness in order for anything to be heavier than it. In order to determine whether or not one thing is heavier than something else, the weight of both things must be compared; it doesn't make sense to say, for example, that 1 gram is heavier than 0 grams, because you can't compare the weight of something that is 1 gram with the "weight" something that has no weight to be compared with, it's non-existent.
Asking "Is there anything that has a higher weight level than this rock?" would not be implying that the rock has at least some weight because a weight level can be zero.
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid]
#14079065 - 03/07/11 12:20 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Are you saying that negative annoyance is an imposssibility?
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I'm not really sure what you mean by 'negative annoyance'; I don't think there is something that can have an annoyance level that is a negative number, if that's what you mean.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid] 3
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Poid said: You asked "is there anything more annoying than", not "is there anything that has a higher annoyance level than"; the former question implies that child laughter is at least somewhat annoying, while the latter does not.
For example, if you asked "Is there anything heavier than this rock?", you would be implying that this rock has at least some weight because you are asking if there are any other objects that, when their weight is compared to the weight of this rock, are shown to be heavier; this rock has to have some at least degree of heaviness in order for anything to be heavier than it. In order to determine whether or not one thing is heavier than something else, the weight of both things must be compared; it doesn't make sense to say, for example, that 1 gram is heavier than 0 grams, because you can't compare the weight of something that is 1 gram with the "weight" something that has no weight to be compared with, it's non-existent.
Asking "Is there anything that has a higher weight level than this rock?" would not be implying that the rock has at least some weight because a weight level can be zero.
This post is more annoying than the laughter of children.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
#14079167 - 03/07/11 12:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It depends if they're black.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid]
#14079183 - 03/07/11 12:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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what?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
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Poid said: You asked "is there anything more annoying than", not "is there anything that has a higher annoyance level than"; the former question implies that child laughter is at least somewhat annoying, while the latter does not.
For example, if you asked "Is there anything heavier than this rock?", you would be implying that this rock has at least some weight because you are asking if there are any other objects that, when their weight is compared to the weight of this rock, are shown to be heavier; this rock has to have some at least degree of heaviness in order for anything to be heavier than it. In order to determine whether or not one thing is heavier than something else, the weight of both things must be compared; it doesn't make sense to say, for example, that 1 gram is heavier than 0 grams, because you can't compare the weight of something that is 1 gram with the "weight" something that has no weight to be compared with, it's non-existent.
Asking "Is there anything that has a higher weight level than this rock?" would not be implying that the rock has at least some weight because a weight level can be zero.
This post is more annoying than the laughter of children.
And we have a winner!
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learningtofly said: what?
It depends if the children are black, you know, because black children are really annoying; it's a joke. 
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learningtofly said:
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Poid said: You asked "is there anything more annoying than", not "is there anything that has a higher annoyance level than"; the former question implies that child laughter is at least somewhat annoying, while the latter does not.
For example, if you asked "Is there anything heavier than this rock?", you would be implying that this rock has at least some weight because you are asking if there are any other objects that, when their weight is compared to the weight of this rock, are shown to be heavier; this rock has to have some at least degree of heaviness in order for anything to be heavier than it. In order to determine whether or not one thing is heavier than something else, the weight of both things must be compared; it doesn't make sense to say, for example, that 1 gram is heavier than 0 grams, because you can't compare the weight of something that is 1 gram with the "weight" something that has no weight to be compared with, it's non-existent.
Asking "Is there anything that has a higher weight level than this rock?" would not be implying that the rock has at least some weight because a weight level can be zero.
This post is more annoying than the laughter of children.
And we have a winner! 
I thought I presented a legitimate point.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid] 2
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No, you didn't. Earlier, when I said sometimes you make irrelevant points, that is exactly what I'm talking about.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
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Well it would be nice if you could point out the error(s) in my logic, or explain to me how the points I made were irrelevant; this is a debate forum after all.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid] 2
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You know I don't believe in spoon-feeding.
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It's not spoon-feeding to explain the error's in another person's argument, if that were true then debating would be nothing but back-and-forth spoon-feeding.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid] 2
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1. Everyone who posted in the thread knew exactly what OC meant by "more annoying than" except you, who for some reason found it extremely important to point out a possible ambiguity (which could be argued to be nonexistent in the first place).
2. More than and Higher than are synonymous. I fail to see how they are not synonymous.
3, Poid, your argument only makes sense in terms of "objective" facts and since whether something is annoying is subjective, your argument is irrelevant.
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i always feel like im lecturing this guy, not debating. all he wants is to be fed information, then argue that its faulty, then forget that you gave him the info, and asks for the same info a page later.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
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zappaisgod and I seemed to have interpreted what he meant by "more annoying than" similarly.
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learningtofly said: 2. More than and Higher than are synonymous. I fail to see how they are not synonymous.
I never said they weren't, I said that "more annoying than" does not imply the same thing as "has a higher level of annoyance than".
If you were at a restaurant, do you think it would make sense to ask the waiter "Can you fill this cup with some more water?" if the cup was empty, and you haven't had any water yet?
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I'm not sure what you mean here; my argument is that "more annoying than child laughter" implies that small children are at least somewhat annoying in the same manner that "heavier than this rock" implies that this rock has at least some weight.
The suffix '-er' turns a word into a comparative when added to an adjective; a comparative denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing, or other entity has a property or quality greater or less in extent than that of another, which means that 'heavier' denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing or other entity has a property of weight that is greater or less in extent than that of another. Similarly, "more annoying than" denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing or other entity's property of annoyance is greater or lesser in extent than that of another ("more annoying than" is a comparative form of 'annoying', 'annoyinger' isn't a word).
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I'm not sure what you mean here; my argument is that "more annoying than child laughter" implies that small children are at least somewhat annoying in the same manner that "heavier than this rock" implies that this rock has at least some weight.
Yes, and? OC already established that child laughter is annoying.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: mushiepussy]
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i always feel like im lecturing this guy...
, wow, ain't that a hoot! 
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mushiepussy said: ...not debating. all he wants is to be fed information, then argue that its faulty, then forget that you gave him the info, and asks for the same info a page later.
All I want is evidence for your claims that I can work with, I don't want to be spoon-fed. Debates go well when each person explains their positions and disagreements clearly, and I like participating in debates that go well, regardless of whether or not my position turns out to be wrong.
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I'm not sure what you mean here; my argument is that "more annoying than child laughter" implies that small children are at least somewhat annoying in the same manner that "heavier than this rock" implies that this rock has at least some weight.
Yes, and? OC already established that child laughter is annoying.
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regardless of whether or not my position turns out to be wrong.
yeah, but once you have been proved you wrong it's time for you to drop it instead of just giving new definitions to things so you can continue to argue.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: mushiepussy]
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mushiepussy said: regardless of whether or not my position turns out to be wrong.
yeah, but once you have been proved you wrong it's time for you to drop it instead of just giving new definitions to things so you can continue to argue.
"once you have been proved you wrong"? 
Obviously, if I have some rebuttals to express, then I don't agree that I've been proven wrong; debate is a back-and-forth process, and sometimes it can be tedious. If you don't like this, then you probably shouldn't debate, or if you just don't like when debate becomes tedious, then maybe you should just cop-out when that happens and stop participating. 
I don't give new definitions to things, period, and I definitely don't do that so I can continue to argue; I'd be curious to see what evidence you have for this accusation.
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mushiepussy said: regardless of whether or not my position turns out to be wrong.
yeah, but once you have been proved you wrong it's time for you to drop it instead of just giving new definitions to things so you can continue to argue.
"once you have been proved you wrong"? 
Obviously, if I have some rebuttals to express, then I don't agree that I've been proven wrong; debate is a back-and-forth process, and sometimes it can be tedious. If you don't like this, then you probably shouldn't debate, or if you just don't like when debate becomes tedious, then maybe you should just cop-out when that happens and stop participating. 
I don't give new definitions to things, period, and I definitely don't do that so I can continue to argue; I'd be curious to see what evidence you have for this accusation.
I enjoy debate, but you don't debate. You just question every detail of a statement making a simple statement a fuckin battle, and you take the idea projected by the statement and twist it for the sake of arguing.
Instead of playing stupid all of the time, why don't you work with the statement trying to interpret it's meaninig in a progressive fashion, instead of causing stagnant debate over meanings of words where everyone but you knows the intention. This isn't a gramatical puzzle, it is a place to share ideas.
Stop asking for evidence for every single sentence. In many cases, the evidence has already been posted, and in others the evidence is not important.
You make trying to express an idea an impossible task, and your style of "debate" just slows the progression of debate. It is only tedious when you are involved
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: mushiepussy]
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mushiepussy said: regardless of whether or not my position turns out to be wrong.
yeah, but once you have been proved you wrong it's time for you to drop it instead of just giving new definitions to things so you can continue to argue.
"once you have been proved you wrong"? 
Obviously, if I have some rebuttals to express, then I don't agree that I've been proven wrong; debate is a back-and-forth process, and sometimes it can be tedious. If you don't like this, then you probably shouldn't debate, or if you just don't like when debate becomes tedious, then maybe you should just cop-out when that happens and stop participating. 
I don't give new definitions to things, period, and I definitely don't do that so I can continue to argue; I'd be curious to see what evidence you have for this accusation.
I enjoy debate, but you don't debate. You just question every detail of a statement making a simple statement a fuckin battle, and you take the idea projected by the statement and twist it for the sake of arguing.
People's statements are often unclear and/or ambiguous, it's sometimes necessary to question certain details in order to clearly understand what is being said; I don't do this for the sake of arguing.
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I don't understand, how is the fashion in which I try to interpret a statement's meaning any less progressive than any other fashion? 
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mushiepussy said: This isn't a gramatical puzzle, it is a place to share ideas.
This is not just a place to simply share ideas, this is a debate forum; people often make statements that are unclear and/or ambiguous during debates, and it's not uncommon for them to be asked to clarify certain details.
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mushiepussy said: Stop asking for evidence for every single sentence. In many cases, the evidence has already been posted, and in others the evidence is not important.
I don't ask for evidence for literally every single sentence, and I don't recall asking for evidence that has already been posted; I'd like you to provide an example of me doing this. The evidence for a person's claim during a debate is always important, debate is a back-and-forth process of positing, defending, and challenging claims.
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mushiepussy said: You make trying to express an idea an impossible task, and your style of "debate" just slows the progression of debate.
Why does the progression of a debate have to be fast, are you in a hurry or something? 
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mushiepussy said: It is only tedious when you are involved
I don't see why this is a bad thing, I guess most people skip over lots of details and/or make lots of assumptions about the meanings other people's statements without feeling the need to confirm those assumptions by asking questions about certain aspects of those statements.
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THIS FLIPS THE ENTIRE SITUATION UPSIDE DOWN I HAD BEEN READING OUT OF CONTEXT OMGGGGGG
According 2 my newfound understanding, OC is totally wrong and Poid now has a valid point. I didn't reealize before that OC stated he never actually claimed children were annoying.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid]
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See, I had assumed that OC thought children were annoying because his OP clearly implied that he did.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
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It's OK, I forgive you.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
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This thread was not about annoying things nor children, but a test to see who would jump to a false conclusion.
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OrgoneConclusion said: This thread was not about annoying things nor children, but a test to see who would jump to a false conclusion.
Any false conclusion, or a particular one?
Me, zappaisgod, and learningtofly all agree that you implied in the OP that you believe child laughter is annoying; is this the false conclusion you're talking about?
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid]
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Poid said: ...my argument is that "more annoying than child laughter" implies that small children are at least somewhat annoying in the same manner that "heavier than this rock" implies that this rock has at least some weight.
The suffix '-er' turns a word into a comparative when added to an adjective; a comparative denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing, or other entity has a property or quality greater or less in extent than that of another, which means that 'heavier' denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing or other entity has a property of weight that is greater or less in extent than that of another. Similarly, "more annoying than" denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing or other entity's property of annoyance is greater or lesser in extent than that of another ("more annoying than" is a comparative form of 'annoying', 'annoyinger' isn't a word).
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid]
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Is anything heavier than a photon?
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OrgoneConclusion said: This thread was not about annoying things nor children, but a test to see who would jump to a false conclusion.
Being what?
You asked if there is anything more annoying than children laughing, and by saying "more annoying than" you are implying that children are annoying to some degree. Can you please elaborate on how "more annoying than" does not imply that children are annoying to some degree? And even if you can, the fact that everyone disagrees with you shows that your question is extremely ambiguous to the point where it is your duty to clarify what you mean.
EDIT: So let us assume that you were right and we jumped to a false conclusion? What is the point of showing that when given an extremely ambiguous question, people may misunderstand it?
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Was any human being more saintly than Hitler?
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the OP is about interval measurement and this example is ratio measurement.
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This is less ambiguous. You cannot deny that it could be easily assumed you don't like children
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It can be taken to mean that
A) Children are annoying B) Children are not annoying.
You never clarified which one you meant.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: learningtofly]
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With a nice chipotle sauce...
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OrgoneConclusion said: Is anything heavier than a photon?
This question makes no sense, photons have no mass, and nothing can be heavier than them.
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You never clarified which one you meant.
The OP was a question, not a declaration. Doh!
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and nothing can be heavier than them
Wager time. I have a hundred bucks here.
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You never clarified which one you meant.
The OP was a question, not a declaration. Doh!
Which is relevant because? Are you claiming that a question cannot be ambiguous?
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I already described that 'heavier' is the comparative form of the word 'heavy', and how a comparative denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing, or other entity has a property or quality greater or less in extent than that of another; this means that 'heavier' denotes the degree or grade by which a person, thing or other entity has a property of weight that is greater or less in extent than that of another.
By this logic, if photons have no property of weight that is greater or less in extent than the property of weight of another object, then no object can be heavier than them.
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Re: Is there anything more annoying... [Re: Poid]
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So you decline?
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I don't even have $100 ATM..I have like $50, though.
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I'm just explaining what the word 'heavier' implies, as according to Wikipedia.
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why don't you ever respond to anything that shifts the burden of proof on to you?
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This thread is more annoying then the laughter of Children or anything for that matter.
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