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I don't 'get' marriage. 1
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Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
cause they're retarded enough to follow the norm
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
Love and marriage go together like a horse and carriage. This I tell you, brother. You can't have one without the other.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#14066947 - 03/04/11 03:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Marriage is kinda neat and all...if you have a serious relationship why not make it known to the world so to speak? Also marriage is a prerequisite for the existence of divorce.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: 13.step]
#14066955 - 03/04/11 03:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13.step said:
 Also marriage is a prerequisite for the existence of divorce.
So true Its like marriage is just the next step to failure.
But with that said, I still want to get married eventually. I want a wedding, even if it's just a small one. But it will probably be at least 3 or 4 years before I can even think about it.
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Thank you
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Great video. 
I guess just because I don't understand marriage, doesn't mean that it doesn't make sense to other people or benefit them.
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
Because they get benefits and shit.
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I think that monogamy can work naturally, but it's the sort of thing that has to come naturally, it can't be forced.
Marriage is a legal contract that is completely empty in the absence of actual love.
At least, that's the Western perspective... in the East it's a legal contract that you must learn to fill with love.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Poid]
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I'd personally mostly wanna get married cause of the benefits (you can put your spouse on your health insurance and shit like that), and it'd be fun to have a kickass wedding
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BlueJayWay] 1
#14067071 - 03/04/11 04:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would totally get a pre-nup if I ever get married.
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Marriage was one of the best things to ever happen to me. I figured it would be very similar to being faithful boyfriend/girlfriend but somehow it made our relationship even stronger and better. There is something about taking an oath out loud in front of your closest friends and family.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14067404 - 03/04/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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its a tittle soceitys acceptence but ppl can still be happy, why buy the cow if you get the milk for free
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: flushme]
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'cause you can do thangs to the cow? And you don't get milk until you do unprotected thangs to her...at least that's how I remember it's supposed to work...
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: 13.step]
#14067595 - 03/04/11 06:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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13.step said:
'cause you can do thangs to the cow? And you don't get milk until you do unprotected thangs to her...at least that's how I remember it's supposed to work...
Yeah man, it's hard to find cows that already have milk before you fuck 'em.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: mellowparty]
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mellowparty said:
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
cause they're retarded enough to follow the norm 
QFT
Its utter bollocks and a bit of paper ain't gonna make it better or 2 people stay together. If anything it puts pressure on the relationship. Have a baby instead NOT
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
Because socialization of our female population has the majority of them wanting to get married.
Its an excuse to get drunk and have a beautiful day with your new family
To look badass in a Tux
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Poid]
#14067614 - 03/04/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid said: I would totally get a pre-nup if I ever get married. 
Why remove the extra encouragement to try and work things out? Its allot easier to bail on your commitment if you know the fire exit is unlocked
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Maybe be a pre-nup requirement for him to get at the trust fund.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Poid] 3
#14067964 - 03/04/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Poid said: I would totally get a pre-nup if I ever get married. 
Yeah, because all the womenz are totally clambering to steal away your hot sauce and yoga mat.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14068014 - 03/04/11 07:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: Maybe be a pre-nup requirement for him to get at the trust fund. 
Why would he need a pre-nup to get access to a trust fund?
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Well, there are a lot of reasons.
Tax Benefits
-Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
-Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.
Estate Planning Benefits
-Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
-Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
-Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
-Obtaining priority if a conservator needs to be appointed for your spouse -- that is, someone to make financial and/or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.
Government Benefits
-Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
-Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
-Receiving public assistance benefits.
Employment Benefits
-Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
-Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
-Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
-Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.
Medical Benefits
-Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
-Making medical decisions for your spouse if he or she becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.
Death Benefits
-Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
-Making burial or other final arrangements.
Family Benefits
-Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
-Applying for joint foster care rights.
-Visitation if you divorce.
Consumer Benefits
-Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
-Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
-Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.
Other Legal Benefits and Protections
-Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
-Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications between you and your spouse during your marriage.
-Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
-Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
-Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14068062 - 03/04/11 08:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: Marriage was one of the best things to ever happen to me. I figured it would be very similar to being faithful boyfriend/girlfriend but somehow it made our relationship even stronger and better. There is something about taking an oath out loud in front of your closest friends and family.
Agreed. It is definitely not for everyone, as most of my friends and relatives can tell you. I have been married for 7 years and It has only gotten better. You just have to respect each other and truly love each other.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
#14068082 - 03/04/11 08:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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My boyfriend and I will've been together 10 years this coming September(I'm 27-he's 26). We also have a 3 year old son. We've talked about getting married, and even though I said it's not THAT big a deal to me, he's the one that wants the wedding. I think we should set up a wedding type ceremony and give each other rings and stuff, but not really done by anyone that would constitute a legally bound marriage.
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DieCommie said: There is something about taking an oath out loud in front of your closest friends and family.
This is what I think makes a wedding special. I want my boyfriend to know this is why I'm doing it...not what benefits I'll be getting out of it
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14068095 - 03/04/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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So marriage is all about the legal benefits and only the legal benefits in your eyes?
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No, not to me. But with all the hate on marriage in this thread, I figured I'd give some practical reasons.
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My marriage kicks ass. I married someone who is now my best friend and partner in crime. (helps she's known me since 3rd grade- 34 now)
I wanted to marry her to show her I was committed to our relationship.
We also had a kick ass reception with lots of booze flowing and We had The Schwag come down from St. Louis and play.
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
then don't "get" married. 
i don't feel like marriage is necessary either. i mean, it used to be different back when divorce was practically unheard of.
i don't see any reason to get married myself. if i fall in love, i fall in love. its gonna take me a damn long time to agree to getting married, but if its the right girl.. i'll know.
getting married seems like a good way to lose half your shit.. especially if you rush into it.
it also kind of seems like some people would want to get married out of insecurity. 'you're my wife/husband therefor you will be with ME for the rest of my life.'
a safety blanket of sorts. 
one thing i kinda dislike about the shroomery.. is that if someone doesn't agree with someone, they immediately claim that the alternative belief is "stupid." and anyone who believes it is the same. i think thats quite ridiculous and... well, definitely not very "open-minded," as most people here would have the rest of us believe. 
i'm not pointing fingers at you rofl_my_waffle.. your thread just reminded me. just sayin.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: igwna]
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theMERRYiguana said:
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
then don't "get" married. 
i don't feel like marriage is necessary either. i mean, it used to be different back when divorce was practically unheard of.
i don't see any reason to get married myself. if i fall in love, i fall in love. its gonna take me a damn long time to agree to getting married, but if its the right girl.. i'll know.
getting married seems like a good way to lose half your shit.. especially if you rush into it.
it also kind of seems like some people would want to get married out of insecurity. 'you're my wife/husband therefor you will be with ME for the rest of my life.'
a safety blanket of sorts. 
one thing i kinda dislike about the shroomery.. is that if someone doesn't agree with someone, they immediately claim that the alternative belief is "stupid." and anyone who believes it is the same. i think thats quite ridiculous and... well, definitely not very "open-minded," as most people here would have the rest of us believe. 
i'm not pointing fingers at you rofl_my_waffle.. your thread just reminded me. just sayin.
Thanks for not pointing fingers. Haha
I don't think it's stupid at all--I just have a hard time understanding it.
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You can't even understand doing it for the legal benefits? I mean if you're going to be together anyway, you may as well sign up for the hundreds of legal benefits.
Obviously that's not all there is to it, but from a logical and practical point of view, how can you not understand marriage?
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14068486 - 03/04/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Your all idiots and my opinion is the only correct one
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Herbal said: Your all idiots and my opinion is the only correct one 
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That's absolutely not what I said. I was asking a question, and hoping for an answer.
What don't you understand about it?
How is it worse than not being married (assuming you have a prenup)?
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ROFL_my_ WAFFLE said: Why do people that are in love feel the need to perform a ritual and have a legal contract?
I am not reading any other replies but here is my story, to stoned to read.
My wife said in her younger years, I will never get married.
I my self never really though about it.
After 5 years of togetherness and 4 years of being living together, we realized one thing. That one thing is benefits. It is just a piece of paper.
Neither of us have rings. We got married by a judge that rolled up on a harley in a park that later got busted for pot.
Marriage it a legal term.
It can wreck you or make your life better.
It is all about working the system : edit -- that sounds wrong.
in all honesty if there was no benefit, I would possibly be not married, but yet I would still feel the same and be still where I am. Loving my gal.
We still tease each other... haha you my wife oh yeah well your my husband 
Oh and the wife just said she like being married, so do I. So i guess it does run deeper. Besides if a truck smashes me into the ground, she gets all my stuff.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: igwna]
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Many people get married to start a family. I'm surprised no one has mentioned this reason.
Kids are best raised by married parents, no offense to all the lil' bastards out there.
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Goddamnit. I saw ROFl_MY_WAFFLE's sig and now I want waffles!!
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learningtofly said:
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DieCommie said: Maybe be a pre-nup requirement for him to get at the trust fund. 
Why would he need a pre-nup to get access to a trust fund?
Often times rich parents make that a condition of the fund, to keep the wealth safe from seductresses.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
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BothHands said: That's absolutely not what I said. I was asking a question, and hoping for an answer.
What don't you understand about it?
How is it worse than not being married (assuming you have a prenup)?
Even though it has many benefits, it could have just as many negative repercussions (depending on the couple of course.) I've seen tons of marriages go to shit, a ton go OKAY, and not that many go fantastically well. 
The chances of having a very happy AND long-lasting marriage doesn't seem very high to me. When I posted this thread, I didn't see why people would just throw in for something like that.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Ima Trooper]
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I don't think it's any more likely to go wrong than a relationship without marriage. And if it goes wrong, you get divorced. If you have a prenup, marriage doesn't have any cons that I see. That's assuming you feel it's going to be a relatively long lasting relationship, even if you have no intention of staying together forever.
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marriage is hard sometimes. you have to work at it.
my wife wants to choke me out somedays. other way around other days. but, at the end of the day we got each others back till death.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
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What are these legal benifits are you all talking about? 
I believe we pay more taxes married than we would separate, and also our student loan payments are screwy because we are married. Ive known old people to divorce in order to get more social security. I think if economic hardship hit us, we would get a legal divorce to save money and get more govt. benefits.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: DieCommie]
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Mairrage sucks balls. i was married once, you feel like you have to love the person and that always sucks .
1. The is always the threat of failure.
2. Even when its succeeding and your feeling the love, you still get anxiety about the failure.
3. Actions have so much more at stake and you have far more expectations as a husband/wife.
Mairrage is good because people in your family respect your views more.
it gives you more influence in those situations.
Other than that, is licks monkey crack.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
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you obviously have not found the right person.
Marriage is not a game.
It is for life.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: 4runner]
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Arnt pre-nups such a bitch slap to the trust in the relationship, I love you with all my heart and I believe to my core were gonna be together forever Buuuuuttt I want to get some lawyers to write up a contract for you to sign to protect my assets.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Arnt pre-nups such a bitch slap to the trust in the relationship, I love you with all my heart and I believe to my core were gonna be together forever Buuuuuttt I want to get some lawyers to write up a contract for you to sign to protect my assets.
Hahaha
"It's not that I don't trust you..."
"Then what the FUCK do you want a pre-nup for?"
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Herbal said: Your all idiots and my opinion is the only correct one 
I'd say you're the idiot based on your DEA post: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14068246
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: 4HO-DMT]
#14068866 - 03/04/11 11:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: What are these legal benifits are you all talking about? 
I believe we pay more taxes married than we would separate, and also our student loan payments are screwy because we are married. Ive known old people to divorce in order to get more social security. I think if economic hardship hit us, we would get a legal divorce to save money and get more govt. benefits.
Hmm, well it seems you're right, but only in some cases. And considering the money you'd save on auto, homeowners', and medical insurance should make up for it, unless you're both earning like 100k a year or something.
But looking around, it seems that there are something like 1400 benefits that married couples get that other couples don't. They're not all tax benefits, there are so many other things to consider. I could be wrong on the 1400, the number is uncited, but it seems to show up everywhere, so that's what I'm going with until I find something else. Still looking.
Edit: Looks like I found the citation:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=gao&docid=f:og97016.txt
It lists the 1400, but the number might be inflated. I'm not going to read though all of them and make sure they're all actual benefits, and not just laws that mention marriage.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14069113 - 03/05/11 12:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good old society.
If your happy that's all that matters in the end
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: 4runner]
#14069141 - 03/05/11 12:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anunnakian said: you obviously have not found the right person.
Marriage is not a game.
It is for life.
yup yup, I know that I always wanted to get married some day and so did my wife, after 3 years of hardly touching a woman and rediscovering the friendship and attraction with my wife we basically said "why the fuck not?" we spent about $800 and had a neato tie-dye wedding on the OR coast with some friends and some family and a bunch of ganja lol, it was the best day ever, and I have no regrets, we're one hell of a team
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Cakk]
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Cakk said: Good old society.
If your happy that's all that matters in the end

I dont see the meaning behind the ritual of marriage other then its a cultural norm and somewhat of a expectation to most women and those fuckin golddiggers.
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I don't understand marriage at all either. It makes no sense to me.
There are certain legal repercussions to getting married, which I neither want nor need.
The bottom line is that I don't need anybody else to validate or approve of or license my relationship with someone.
In fact the concept of licensing my relationship with a government entity seems ludicrous on it's face. Does it not?
People get married because it's a cultural norm. It's traditional. To do otherwise requires explanation.
My personal relationships require no license, registration, ceremony, or approval. I find that very notion offensive.
This is all beside the fact that I think it's incredibly naive to "know" that you will want to be with someone for the rest of your life. Especially at a young age.
If you feel love and affection for someone, show them that in your own way. There is no need to get the government involved.
Why bother with the ceremony, license, rings and all that shit?
Do it if it will make you happy. But I don't believe that there's any real logic to the whole thing. It's a concept with deep roots in religion, something else that I want no part of.
To me marriage only makes sense if you need others to believe in, approve, and regulate your most intimate personal relationship.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: 4runner]
#14069235 - 03/05/11 12:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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anunnakian said: you obviously have not found the right person.
Marriage is not a game.
It is for life.
Thanks Oprah.
Real encouraging advice.

Next time you want to fore something down my throat atleast make a stronger case of it.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Plok]
#14069248 - 03/05/11 12:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Plok said: I don't understand marriage at all either. It makes no sense to me.
There are certain legal repercussions to getting married, which I neither want nor need.
The bottom line is that I don't need anybody else to validate or approve of or license my relationship with someone.
In fact the concept of licensing my relationship with a government entity seems ludicrous on it's face. Does it not?
People get married because it's a cultural norm. It's traditional. To do otherwise requires explanation.
My personal relationships require no license, registration, ceremony, or approval. I find that very notion offensive.
This is all beside the fact that I think it's incredibly naive to "know" that you will want to be with someone for the rest of your life. Especially at a young age.
If you feel love and affection for someone, show them that in your own way. There is no need to get the government involved.
Why bother with the ceremony, license, rings and all that shit?
Do it if it will make you happy. But I don't believe that there's any real logic to the whole thing. It's a concept with deep roots in religion, something else that I want no part of.
To me marriage only makes sense if you need others to believe in, approve, and regulate your most intimate personal relationship.
The bold stands out.
Thats my issue with mairrage. its a big fucking game that no one really knows what they are getting themselves into for and usually ends in divorce. 50% of all marriages end within 15 years.
Almost 75% experience some level of infidelity.
mairrage...its useless and heart wrenching.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
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Meh, to each their own, i used to think the same way of marriage (I've had some EXTREMELY bad relationships), I'm no 18 year old that married my high school sweetheart the day after she turned 16. Sure it's a LEGAL thing, but sho0o0o0ot son if you want to get married should you give a damn what the norm is? and we were anything but the norm, I'll post our pictures if you guys want 
Not everyone that gets married is making a hasty stupid decision influenced by religion/family/cpt planet though I do agree that a large portion of married couples are.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: PNW FunGuy]
#14069372 - 03/05/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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PNW FunGuy said: Meh, to each their own, i used to think the same way of marriage (I've had some EXTREMELY bad relationships), I'm no 18 year old that married my high school sweetheart the day after she turned 16. Sure it's a LEGAL thing, but sho0o0o0ot son if you want to get married should you give a damn what the norm is? and we were anything but the norm, I'll post our pictures if you guys want 
Not everyone that gets married is making a hasty stupid decision influenced by religion/family/cpt planet though I do agree that a large portion of married couples are.
So it begs the question; why did you get married.
You clearly can't predict if you are going to love this person in the next 20-40 years....let alone 5.
if you think you can predict, i can't agree with you at all.
i think its childish to believe that you can predict who you can love, in such a large timeframe.
Sure maybe a few months to a year, you'll have some success but it seems that its not the case at all.
Pray tell, why did you get married? What use is there in getting marriage????
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i feel that a stronger bond comes from a partnership that relies on love and trust of the other person enough to trust them to not leave/fuck up/or whatever. i mean, why pay the man to recognize a partnership? that's all bullshit, and i can find wayyy better things to do than spend tons of money on a marriage that probably isn't going to last forever either way. i don't get marriage either.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: xiiooo]
#14069402 - 03/05/11 01:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think this thread needs some married woman input
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14069408 - 03/05/11 01:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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you raise good points, I'm not trying to say you're wrong or anything, it's very hard to describe, I guess the best way i can put it is that we are basically the same person, I can think of two things we disagree on; cinnamon and reality tv lol. We have a, for lack of better wording, telepathic connection, literally speaking each others thoughts before the other can get it out and beginning the exact same sentences at the exact same time, it almost never fails, and I emphasize almost. As for use, well I suppose you've got me there, other than the fact that it made us both very happy to have our weirdo-hippy wedding and that she wanted my last name it doesn't serve much of a purpose in itself, but that being said I have no doubt that I will have children with this woman in the next few years (kids with parents that had different last names but were biologically the parents always "weirded" me out as a kid) and we'll more than likely have a blast making it through whatever time together that our lives allow, 8 years together so far has proved to be as good as day one.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Plok]
#14069447 - 03/05/11 02:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Plok said: I don't understand marriage at all either. It makes no sense to me.
There are certain legal repercussions to getting married, which I neither want nor need.
The bottom line is that I don't need anybody else to validate or approve of or license my relationship with someone.
In fact the concept of licensing my relationship with a government entity seems ludicrous on it's face. Does it not?
People get married because it's a cultural norm. It's traditional. To do otherwise requires explanation.
My personal relationships require no license, registration, ceremony, or approval. I find that very notion offensive.
This is all beside the fact that I think it's incredibly naive to "know" that you will want to be with someone for the rest of your life. Especially at a young age.
If you feel love and affection for someone, show them that in your own way. There is no need to get the government involved.
Why bother with the ceremony, license, rings and all that shit?
Do it if it will make you happy. But I don't believe that there's any real logic to the whole thing. It's a concept with deep roots in religion, something else that I want no part of.
To me marriage only makes sense if you need others to believe in, approve, and regulate your most intimate personal relationship.
QFT +1 Hear here!
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They are insecure and think a contract will bind their love. I can tell you one thing, the most expensive piece of ass I ever had was called 'wife' And Im fucking glad im not married anymore.
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Plok said: I don't understand marriage at all either. It makes no sense to me.
The bottom line is that I don't need anybody else to validate or approve of or license my relationship with someone.
My personal relationships require no license, registration, ceremony, or approval. I find that very notion offensive.
If you feel love and affection for someone, show them that in your own way. There is no need to get the government involved.
Why bother with the ceremony, license, rings and all that shit?
So it doesn't bother you that if your girlfriend gets cancer, you will not be legally allowed to stay with her in the hospital?
It doesn't bother you that if she has a kid, you have no legal rights over it?
It doesn't bother you that you're paying more on your taxes (in most cases) and your insurance bills than other people?
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14070751 - 03/05/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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man some of you are super judgmental, neither I or my wife are "insecure" to the point where we looked to a government issued license to "bind our love" we love each other, we wanted to get married, it made us happy, we're still happy.
Grumpy shroomers lol, jeez
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14071169 - 03/05/11 02:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dont know about the states but in Canada you get all those benefits after living together for six months.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14071311 - 03/05/11 02:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BothHands said: You can't even understand doing it for the legal benefits?
I think the legal ramifications of a divorce make it more difficult actually.
You can sign lots of prenups, but there are a ton of complexities in a divorce. Even if you decide beforehand to divide things equally (or unequally) there are always grey areas.
One partner might say "Well I stayed home and raised the kids for 15 years, this allowed my partner to get promoted, etc, while I gave up other opportunities". So what exactly is that "worth"? What about a person who is the breadwinner, and pays for the expenses of a house, but someone else does a lot of things to keep the house up?
There are many scenarios that have intrinsic or monetary value that can't be anticipated by a prenup.
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Hmm, I never thought of that. I've never been through a divorce, and my parents are still together, so I guess I'm a bit ignorant on how it works.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: I dont know about the states but in Canada you get all those benefits after living together for six months.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BothHands]
#14071480 - 03/05/11 03:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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BothHands said: Hmm, I never thought of that. I've never been through a divorce, and my parents are still together, so I guess I'm a bit ignorant on how it works.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: I dont know about the states but in Canada you get all those benefits after living together for six months.

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Tchan909 said:
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BothHands said: Hmm, I never thought of that. I've never been through a divorce, and my parents are still together, so I guess I'm a bit ignorant on how it works.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: I dont know about the states but in Canada you get all those benefits after living together for six months.

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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: PNW FunGuy]
#14071547 - 03/05/11 03:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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LOL
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: AlphaFalfa]
#14071775 - 03/05/11 04:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Damn Canadians are living in the future.
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I dont get marriage either.
Noone in my immediate falimy ever got married.
I just see it as a big waster of money you dont have to make the ceremony and shit.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Patlal]
#14071981 - 03/05/11 05:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If someone HAS to get married it should be to the perfect woman.
As I've said before, the PERFECT woman is waist high, has no teeth, pistol grip ears and a flat head to set your beer on.
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starfire_xes said: If someone HAS to get married it should be to the perfect woman.
As I've said before, the PERFECT woman is waist high, has no teeth, pistol grip ears and a flat head to set your beer on.
The perfect woman:
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
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starfire_xes said: If someone HAS to get married it should be to the perfect woman.
As I've said before, the PERFECT woman is waist high, has no teeth, pistol grip ears and a flat head to set your beer on.
The perfect woman:

She's missing boobs and sandwich-making hands.
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I think marriage for any other reason then financial reasons is beyond ridiculous.
I don't think I'll ever get married unless I lose all self esteem when I turn 30 or something.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: pfxtc]
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man some of you are super judgmental, neither I or my wife are "insecure" to the point where we looked to a government issued license to "bind our love" we love each other, we wanted to get married, it made us happy, we're still happy.
I agree with you about your viewpoints.
I think it's a little judgmental to say someone is insecure just because they're married.
The benefits after 6 months canada thing makes a little more sense in some ways; people can get married after they've just met, which seems pretty silly in my opinion. People do get married after they've just met for the benefits (green card!), and if there was a time requirement, that would be less likely to happen.
I don't see anything wrong with getting married. I'm probably getting married someday, like I said before, just cause there are benefits, not to "solidify my relationships" or any shit like that. However, I do think it's usually stupid to rush into marriage; make sure you actually have a good chance of being with the person for awhile...don't marry the person after only a year or some shit.
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Re: I don't 'get' marriage. [Re: BlueJayWay]
#14073801 - 03/06/11 12:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its not a time requirement you can run off and get married a hour after you met someone
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