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Ingenuity in incubation?
    #14065112 - 03/04/11 08:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just started my own mycology setup. I've had it a little rough when it comes to incubation though, I started out with an electric blanket, soon found that to be too hot. In desperation I slept with my twelve cultures for a couple nights; like a hen on her eggs. I have finally settled on using an xbox 360 in a small closet. It keeps the temp. right around 84*.  I also discovered what I suspect to be cinnamon mold in four of my jars. Other than a couple small hiccups I soon expect a fungus amoung us.

Oh, and fresh, coarsely ground whole wheat makes a wonderful brf replacement.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065121 - 03/04/11 08:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

84F is way to hot. Jars of grain and BRF will colonize just fine at
room temperature(70-80F).

When you incubate at the temp you are now, as you have already found
contaminate spores that might not have germinated at 75F germinate at
84F.

The old 84-86F colonization temperature is long outdated information.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14065140 - 03/04/11 08:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, wow. Thanks! I'm using a textbook from 1973, it's not psylocybe specific.

Next batch I plan on doing brf(cheaper and easier), can I still incubate at room temp? And do I need to drop the temp at all to induce fruiting?


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14065152 - 03/04/11 08:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Ignore the redundant question... Long night


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065155 - 03/04/11 08:50 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

For cubes room temperature(70-80F) will do just fine for colonization
and fruiting.

You say next batch you will do BRF PF Tek...what are you doing now?

Also out of curiosity which mushroom book are you referencing?


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14065257 - 03/04/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm using home ground wheat, and Verm substrate; with mazatapec, African tranzkie, and treasure coast spores. The consistency isn't quite the same as brf.  I'm using the stamets guide to growing at home. 1983, once again, long night. I've kind of frankensteined my setup together from several different information sources.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065284 - 03/04/11 09:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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In desperation I slept with my twelve cultures for a couple nights; like a hen on her eggs.




:ilold: That's awesome dude! Great dedication to the hobby right off the bat :rockon: I'm going to go give you some  :mushroomtwirl:  :scaryshroom:  :mushroom2:  :dancingshroom:  :greenshroom:  :shroomjar:  for that alone!

Actually, I almost came to the same ultimatum during the Great February Blizzard of 2010...luckily the power didn't go out...


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14065305 - 03/04/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I have finally settled on using an xbox 360 in a small closet. It keeps the temp. right around 84*




Jeezus, you're reading some horribly outdated and inaccurate info.  You will find the brf tek helpful.  You're supposed to colonize your mushroom substrates and spawn at normal room temperature.
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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065307 - 03/04/11 09:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm halfway through my third week of incubation, with lots of rhizomorphic mycelial growth. All set backs aside, I'm very pleased with my first attempt, and I'm confident I will bear fruit. I'm new to this forum, how careful should one be as far as unwanted attention here?


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14065328 - 03/04/11 09:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm glad the gesture was thought humorous by someone else, my friends thought I had lost it.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065334 - 03/04/11 09:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Really? I guess I didn't get the memo either, I've been colonizing at 80 degrees F.

What's a number for room temperature though? Here in the Southwest we often keep our place at 78 to 80 anyway.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065339 - 03/04/11 09:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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how careful should one be as far as unwanted attention here?




I would be worried about your friends knowing. Use common sense, loose
lips sink ships.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065345 - 03/04/11 09:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I'm glad the gesture was thought humorous by someone else, my friends thought I had lost it.




O no, you def lost it buddy...that's great though man. lol. At least you know where your contams came from :wink:...

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how careful should one be as far as unwanted attention here?




define "unwanted" like from  :cop2:? or just on here in general?

In general, be cool, respectful, try to stay on topic, don't flame/troll & we don't sell mushrooms/drugs here. We're here to share knowledge & information and, of course, to learn.

maybe your "red Cinnamon" is Lipstick from you making out w/ them while you slept w/ them :wink: Just Playin' buddy. That's too funny though.

Room temp can be from 65-80...just remember your jars produce about 3 degrees of heat (Fahrenheit) themselves. I wouldn't recommend anything over 78.

yea, make sure it's only REALLY good friends that know


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14065351 - 03/04/11 09:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Really? I guess I didn't get the memo either, I've been colonizing at 80 degrees F.

What's a number for room temperature though? Here in the Southwest we often keep our place at 78 to 80 anyway.




Google 'normal room temperature'. It's a defined range.
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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14065352 - 03/04/11 09:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've always heard 75* but semantics would dictate that: whatever the temperature of the room in question is; is indeed room temperature... It's all relative.   

See if you can shake this term out of your head, Infinitely recursive self similarity. I for one can't get enough of it.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065366 - 03/04/11 09:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hahaha:) can't seem to get enough mush love. I was more concerned with the fuzz watching this site. Seems like it would be a 2nd choice to the donut shop.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: TranscendingLife]
    #14065369 - 03/04/11 09:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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yea, make sure it's only REALLY good friends that
you would trust your life and freedoms with.




That looks better;-)

I personally believe its in your best interest to let nobody know.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14065373 - 03/04/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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todlow said:
yea, make sure it's only REALLY good friends that
you would trust your life and freedoms with.




That looks better;-)

I personally believe its in your best interest to let nobody know.




agree, friends will turn on you the minute you refuse them some shrooms, or the minute ya'll have an argument....


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14065375 - 03/04/11 09:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Really? I guess I didn't get the memo either, I've been colonizing at 80 degrees F.

What's a number for room temperature though? Here in the Southwest we often keep our place at 78 to 80 anyway.




Google 'normal room temperature'. It's a defined range.
RR





It seems to vary depending on what continent you're on... haha... In the U.K. it's 68, in the U.S. it's 72 some places and 78 others. What would be the ideal room temperature for P. Cubensis then? Are any of these better than the others?


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14065379 - 03/04/11 09:44 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

anything below 80 is fine,, and 60 will colonize but a bit slower...so as long as your in that range your golden.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14065385 - 03/04/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well gee Brandon10 thank you for bringing this up! Otherwise I never would have realized I was using outdated information. :blush:


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: biologys]
    #14065386 - 03/04/11 09:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Probability says the more people that know, the more that can go wrong.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: biologys]
    #14065388 - 03/04/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Are we allowed to discuss spore trading? After I fruit this batch I want to capitalize on the many strains available.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: biologys]
    #14065391 - 03/04/11 09:47 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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anything below 80 is fine,, and 60 will colonize but a bit slower...so as long as your in that range your golden.




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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065399 - 03/04/11 09:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Spore trading for microscopy purposes is accepted on this site.

Stick around a while and eventually you will get access to the Marketplace
were you can trade many items. I think its a 90 day wait along with
a min. post count you need.

Here is a good read that you may not have seen yet, lots of great
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https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/10560039/fpart/1


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065410 - 03/04/11 09:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Good deal, I have a mazatapec strain that has really strong growth characteristics. I'll see how it fruits, but again, this is my first go; it's all still magic to me.


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065427 - 03/04/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

90 days and 50 posts and you gaain access to the market place where you can trade with other members or sell things or purchase things.etc..


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065432 - 03/04/11 09:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Good deal, I have a mazatapec strain that has really strong growth characteristics. I'll see how it fruits, but again, this is my first go; it's all still magic to me.




A "Strain" is just a name. You are still growing Ps. cubensis first
and foremost, do not loose sight of this. Give the link I posted above
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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: EvilMushroom666]
    #14065449 - 03/04/11 10:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

your social circle is a lot more likely to get you busted than this forum.

the people on this forum more often than not grow for personal use. and the man doesnt much care about that.

but if one of your weed dealers gets popped and hes like "OH HEY I KNOW THIS D00d GROWIN SOME SHROOMS DAWG"


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: biologys]
    #14065453 - 03/04/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Im in it for personal growth, and the only people wise to my venture are lifelong friends. We wrangled the research Chem market together when it reached the US. I can't believe the gov. has yet to crack down on 4mmc and all the 2cs


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Brandon10]
    #14065718 - 03/04/11 11:05 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

use this forum to boast and show pics proudly. this way you get the satisfaction of showing off ur grow, but no one actually knows, its best not to tell even ur best friend, use this as that outlet


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Re: Ingenuity in incubation? [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14066296 - 03/04/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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What's a number for room temperature though?




:ilold:  I use around 75 F as the target in my incubation of spawn jars and fruiting of small trays.



  Monotubs make their own temps, I've seen them running 85 in the center in a 65 degree room...so you don't want to heat them at all. :shrug:

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