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OfflineOverdoseLiving
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Whats the prpose of Verm?
    #14063647 - 03/03/11 10:45 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

I know it helps retain.. When I was thinking about and UTFSE to see what information is available on WBS/Coir jars, I came across some where people where using Coir as a major component of their jars a long with vermiculite.'

Now my question is, since coir can hold a decent amount of water by itself, is the verm neccesary then? I was thinking maybe it also plays a role in preventing the cakes from getting to compacted in which case coulnt one just thrw some perlite into the coir/wbs mix?? Or do you think the WBS/coir mix wooul be fine as is??

Anyone ever try coir/wbs jars?


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Re: Whats the prpose of Verm? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #14063999 - 03/03/11 11:54 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

i believe it would be pointless unless you wanted to fruit out of the jars, but im sure it would work fine if that's what you wanna do.

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Re: Whats the prpose of Verm? [Re: DZ]
    #14064028 - 03/03/11 11:59 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

Using coir as a replacement for verm in jar culture, whether with brf, wbs, rye flour, etc., is underwhelming.  The vermiculite supplies minerals not found in coir.
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Re: Whats the prpose of Verm? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14064050 - 03/04/11 12:03 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

Verm retains water.


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Re: Whats the prpose of Verm? [Re: DZ]
    #14064138 - 03/04/11 12:24 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

I use coir as a bulk substrate, mixing spawn from the colonized myc. in the WBS jars with a coir/verm mix into a monotub.  I am not aware of anyone mixing coir with the WBS together in jars to colonize... is this what you are asking?

it sounds like you are combining the pf-tek brf jars with a separate method of jar prep. No one makes 'cakes' from WBS or coir that I know of... :shrug2:

and in answer to the "what is the purpose of verm?"...
It seems that has already been answered, but as I understand it...
verm retains moisture better than coir, releasing it slowly over time.  It also adds texture to the coir. Plus, verm is mostly non-nutritious(except for minerals, thanks RR) while coir has enough nutrients to be considered a bulk sub. Verm is just added for texture and moisture retention, possibly other factors here :shrug:

hope this helps, even though I am still slightly confused what you are asking :confused:


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Re: Whats the prpose of Verm? [Re: LurkingWizards]
    #14064154 - 03/04/11 12:29 AM (13 years, 1 day ago)

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LurkingWizards said:
I use coir as a bulk substrate, mixing spawn from the colonized myc. in the WBS jars with a coir/verm mix into a monotub.  I am not aware of anyone mixing coir with the WBS together in jars to colonize... is this what you are asking?

it sounds like you are combining the pf-tek brf jars with a separate method of jar prep. No one makes 'cakes' from WBS or coir that I know of... :shrug2:

and in answer to the "what is the purpose of verm?"...
It seems that has already been answered, but as I understand it...
verm retains moisture better than coir, releasing it slowly over time.  It also adds texture to the coir. Plus, verm is mostly non-nutritious(except for minerals, thanks RR) while coir has enough nutrients to be considered a bulk sub. Verm is just added for texture and moisture retention, possibly other factors here :shrug:

hope this helps, even though I am still slightly confused what you are asking :confused:




there are a few members that grind WBS and makes cakes out of it...they claim decent results :shrug: i wouldn't do it myself but hey to each his own

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