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Will to live = Desire to stay alive.
Those concepts are not the same thing as the fear of death.
Why not?
What happens when someone loses their will to live? They die.
, why do you say this?
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Cups said: What happens when someone has the will to live? They fight like hell not to die.
Didn't you say that a man with no death anxiety would not be actively preventing his own death? What, IYO, happens when a man has no will to live or death anxiety? Do you think he will fight like hell not do die?
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Cups said: If you are actively pursuing actions to continue living it stands to reason you do not wish to be dead. 
So what, what does this prove? Just because the will to live and the fear of death often coincide doesn't mean that they are the same thing; the love of golf, for example, might contribute to one's will to live, but that same love of golf does not contribute to one's anxiety about death. Also, the fear of insignificance, for example, might contribute to one's death anxiety, but that same fear does not contribute to one's will to live; will to live and fear of death are simply not the same phenomenon.
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Cups said: Give me a single reason for living which cannot be taken from you by death.
What would be the relevance of that?
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Poid said:If both my love for cats and fear of bees are strong, does that mean that they're the same thing?
I knew you like cats Poid. 
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Cups said: Comparing the relationship of fear/love with "will to live"/"death anxiety" is not a reasonable comparison.
The comparison was actually of the relationship of love & fear with will to live & death anxiety respectively; both the love of cats & the will to live are kinds of desires, and both the fear of bees & the fear of death are kinds of fears.
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Yeah, after you're dead.
What is the relevance of this point? The fact of the matter is that fear is brought on by concern for others, not by a fear of death.
You answer it yourself below.
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Poid said:death anxiety refers specifically to the feelings one experiences when considering the prospect of their own death
I'd submit that instead of being worried about how your loved ones will react to your death...the true fear lies in no longer being able to make them happy. (since you're dead)
Bringing joy to those we care about gives our lives "meaning". Death takes that from you.
So one cannot genuinely care about the well-being of others?
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Poid said:So basically, everything we do has to necessarily relate to death anxiety because we are impermanent sacks of meat?
Can you think of anything that doesn't? Of course you can, but I'll disagree with you most likely. Give me your best shot. 
Personally, I'd agree with this, but we're talking about a hypothetical rational man who has no death anxiety; I don't think it would be irrational for such a man to fear for the well-being of others that he cares about.
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Cups said: I'm not sure why you reason that a man with no death anxiety would have little interest in preserving his own life.
Why would he? Once you take impermanence of the menu what drive is there to continue?
The drive to continue pursuing positive experiences?
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Cups said: To him death would be as mundane as going to sleep at night.
Why would it be different for anybody else?
-------------------- Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. -- Bob Dylan  fireworks_god said:It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.
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