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Invisibleotherwhitemeat
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #14061351 - 03/03/11 04:51 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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psilocybinjunkie said:
Drugs hit women harder then men, so does alcohol.



This is untrue in several cases known to me, including that of my wife, who is extraordinarily insensitive to psilocybin. She has felt only mild effects on amounts higher than i have ever dared to try -- past the totally immobile point.

There's really no way to know in advance what her sensitivity is, unless you want to step it up gradually from tiny doses over multiple sessions. I've heard, and it seems about right, that a "full" dose is 5-10x what a "threshold effects" dose is. So if she feels .5g very gently, full would be 2.5-5g. Now, my wife barely feels 4g, and she's never had a full experience because I just can't stand the idea of encouraging her to try 20-40g for her "first time for real."

Anyway, in my experience high doses are actually a bit easier than low, as long as you submit, submit, submit. Underdoses suck. Her personality might be different, however.

Having seen the OP have such a good time so recently, her attitude is probably really good, at least. At the end of the day, all the OP can do is assure that she won't be able to hurt herself or flee if she freaks. It's her journey.

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14061370 - 03/03/11 04:54 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

Thinking we may say fuck it, split the difference and go 3 even.

I'll talk to her about it and see how she feels and we'll do whatever she's comfortable with.


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Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
    #14061495 - 03/03/11 05:13 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

Sounds good!!!

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: centurz]
    #14062258 - 03/03/11 07:12 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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centurz said:
"You're tripping? Oh duuude, you gotta play miniature golf."




"I'm watching Jesus ride by on a horse..."

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
    #14062792 - 03/03/11 08:36 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

damn, i fuckin' love mushrooms and you made me wanna consume right now :mushroom2:

great trip report, thanks for the sharing it!


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"We are all intoxicated. We were born into an insane asylum, a world crazy-making. We believe what we see and hear. The real myth is the myth of sanity, of rationality: it's a disease that is eating away at the earth. All the poisons flow from our denial. We deny madness, we forget our crimes, we dismember the corpse, we imprison our children. We need poison to poison the poison, to remember the sacred nature of intoxication, the green body of the young god." ~ Dale Pendell

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: gerryjarcia]
    #14063088 - 03/03/11 09:13 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

I'm glad all of you are enjoying it, and I hope it may help some new people.

Update on my girlfriend: She took 3.1 grams around 2-3 hours ago. She's all giggles and sunshine.
:pinkshroom:


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Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

Taking the Plunge: My First Trip

The Tao te Ching

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
    #14063491 - 03/03/11 10:22 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

excellent! sending love on all channels

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14065978 - 03/04/11 12:04 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Thanks for that, all went well. We now seriously believe the world should eat a light dose with breakfast every morning.


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Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

Taking the Plunge: My First Trip

The Tao te Ching

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
    #14066164 - 03/04/11 12:49 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

ah, sadly that gets old pretty fast though.

my arc: after the first great experience, i was enthusiastic, and partook with little premeditation, frequently, different dosages, etc. And i got my ass kicked really hard a few times with "bad trips." It's not that the trips were "bad," but very very unpleasant experiences that still make me shudder to remember years later. So i was a fucking moron for going in unprepared, treating it casually like beer or candy. It's special, and if you stop treating it that way, lose any respect, it can turn on you, and when all that amazing power goes dark, it's dark indeed. I hope you don't have to learn this firsthand like i did.

Some little rules i follow now, enforced by overwhelming anxiety at having not observed in the past:

1. don't come back for seconds until you've finished everything on your plate. don't journey again until you've finished processing what you got last time. doesn't mean you have to figure it all out, but that you've stopped making progress integrating it.

2. never, ever dose if you have any responsibilities of any kind later the same day. because that's when you will lose track of time and spend the trip panicking looking at a clock every 30 seconds worried that you're not going to be back to baseline in time.

3. even small doses can be shattering. never think that small doses will be OK in sets/settings where big doses wouldn't be appropriate. dosage matters for sure, but not in the requirement to be fully committed.

do what you want, of course. i'm not sure i would have paid attention to this advice myself. welcome to inner space.

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: otherwhitemeat]
    #14066960 - 03/04/11 03:38 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

What I feel I've gained, was that it's okay to be human. There's a reason I'm here, and it's to have the human experience. When it's over, who knows, but I now understand that the point of existence is just that: to exist.

I feel like it showed me what truly matters about being human, and what are simply human created concepts that don't matter so much. To get the most out of my human experience i need to think and FEEL most of all. Feelings and thought are not concept, they are the essence of human consciousness.

However, I don't feel like it's something I'd like to do even once a week. It's spiritual ecstasy for me, not feel-good candy.

I feel like maybe once or twice a month would be a maximum amount of trippage for me.

I feel like all the respect I showed, mental preparation, premeditation, and lifestyle changes beforehand, really helped me to have the positive experience I did.


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Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

Taking the Plunge: My First Trip

The Tao te Ching

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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
    #14067148 - 03/04/11 04:19 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

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Zelse said:
What I feel I've gained, was that it's okay to be human. There's a reason I'm here, and it's to have the human experience.



It's the Teilhard de Chardin chestnut: "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience."

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However, I don't feel like it's something I'd like to do even once a week. It's spiritual ecstasy for me, not feel-good candy.

I feel like maybe once or twice a month would be a maximum amount of trippage for me.



Once a month was heavy for me. Now it's about once a season.

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I feel like all the respect I showed, mental preparation, premeditation, and lifestyle changes beforehand, really helped me to have the positive experience I did.



I'm sure that's right. First times cut some slack because, my god, it's just so astounding and novel, how could you possibly not love it?

Happy travels.

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