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High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization
    #14061443 - 03/03/11 05:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bought a waterbath. This is my solution to the pain of babysitting the water to maintain the correct pasturization temps. Pretty good deal I think.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390292308619


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: dharmabum182]
    #14061461 - 03/03/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

they have a cheaper version of this.

its called a "counter top roaster"


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: dharmabum182]
    #14061467 - 03/03/11 05:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

fucking great... another reason for me to blow money :-P thanks alot


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: k00laid]
    #14061500 - 03/03/11 05:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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they have a cheaper version of this.

its called a "counter top roaster"




epic good call, i was srsly considering droppin 300$ on one of them fancy beasts right now... but fuck that http://cgi.ebay.com/18-QUART-ROASTER-OVEN-NEW-/320658454020?pt=Small_Kitchen_Appliances_US&hash=item4aa8bbb604 40$ and free S&H sounds alot better.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14061532 - 03/03/11 05:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I wouldn't trust a roaster. No matter how cheap they are. They are another kitchen gadget that is cheaply mass produced. This is designed for this stuff. It's more accurate and has overheating controls. For me, a magnetic stirrer, waterbath, and flowhood is all I need.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: dharmabum182]
    #14061548 - 03/03/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I wouldn't trust a roaster. No matter how cheap they are. They are another kitchen gadget that is cheaply mass produced. This is designed for this stuff. It's more accurate and has overheating controls. For me, a magnetic stirrer, waterbath, and flowhood is all I need.





maybe not be the most trustworthy item in the world, but another 5 dollars for a half ass decent meat thermometer from walmart to double check the temps of the roaster is good enough for me... im just pasteurizing horse shit.... if i fuck it up, ill go to the pasture and grab some more.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasteurization [Re: dharmabum182]
    #14061549 - 03/03/11 05:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

pricey..shiny though.:thumbup:

look in my siggy and then be like :homerdoh3:......J/K nice find man.:awethumb:


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasteurization [Re: Ozzy]
    #14061688 - 03/03/11 05:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's a small penis purchase I suppose. But I'd rather throw the shit in the waterbath, crack a beer, and watch cartoons. I always spend a bigger time/money ratio trying to macgyver a setup.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: stranger_danger]
    #14061722 - 03/03/11 05:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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For me, a magnetic stirrer, waterbath, and flowhood is all I need.





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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: The_Outsider]
    #14061928 - 03/03/11 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

$250

    * Supply: 115VAC 50/60Hz 10A Single Phase
    * Capacity: 43L (11.4 Gallons)
    * Bath Dimensions: 16 x 28 x 6.5"
    * Temperature: 0-99.9C

This doesn't sit right with me.

I got 6 of these at walmart last week on clearance for $10 a piece. I would have bought 20 if they had them at that price :minigun:


Really though bro, that $250 jobber is a horrible deal.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14061972 - 03/03/11 06:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeah, that is blatantly wrong. My guess would be 4 gallons tops on that. Just a guess though. what's it actually hold PP?


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14061981 - 03/03/11 06:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I would return that thing and just get one of these

Did I mention getting 6 of them last week for 10 bucks a piece?

they are 4.25 gallon a piece, THATS A LOT CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THAT 250 DOLLAR UNIT IS ONLY 10 GALLONS. NO GOOD! NO GOOD!


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14062010 - 03/03/11 06:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

10*6= 60 bucks @ 4.25 gal = 25 gallons for 60 bucks.

If we go even further with the math and break down the gallon difference and the 250 difference it gets down right insulting.

But that is a very nice unit and will last a long time.

I would rather 4 of those than 12 of the black roasters for sure. Just pretty pricey thats all.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14062133 - 03/03/11 06:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How much substrate can you use in those. What are the dimensions? I would just think that water would displace a lot of load. It doesn't seem energy economical on that scale.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: dharmabum182]
    #14062589 - 03/03/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i've never found a reason to go above and beyond for pasteurization, i just boil water, put my dry substrate ingredients in a 5 gallon work bucket, when the water is boiling, remove from heat for 30-60 seconds, then add it to the bucket and put the lid on. one or two times and you'll learn the correct amount of water to begin with, but its best to add a little more than a little less, that way you can squeeze out the excess before spawning to.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: DZ]
    #14062632 - 03/03/11 08:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i've never found a reason to go above and beyond for pasteurization, i just boil water, put my dry substrate ingredients in a 5 gallon work bucket, when the water is boiling, remove from heat for 30-60 seconds, then add it to the bucket and put the lid on. one or two times and you'll learn the correct amount of water to begin with, but its best to add a little more than a little less, that way you can squeeze out the excess before spawning to.



While that works for ELEM ENTRY subs like Damion5050 tec, when you move beyond the simplicity of cubes, that kind of stuff doesn't work. And even with coir/verm only it is not 100%. Proper temps for allotted times are essential in this hobby. If you can't get  to that then you are just playing at mycology(which isn't bad), but certainly will lead to constant high failure rates early on in your subs.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: Ozzy]
    #14062678 - 03/03/11 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed Ozzy, if you try that with poo you are gonna go green in my neck of the woods. Even coir during the wrong time of the year.


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    #14062784 - 03/03/11 08:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i've never found a reason to go above and beyond for pasteurization, i just boil water, put my dry substrate ingredients in a 5 gallon work bucket, when the water is boiling, remove from heat for 30-60 seconds, then add it to the bucket and put the lid on. one or two times and you'll learn the correct amount of water to begin with, but its best to add a little more than a little less, that way you can squeeze out the excess before spawning to.



While that works for ELEM ENTRY subs like Damion5050 tec, when you move beyond the simplicity of cubes, that kind of stuff doesn't work. And even with coir/verm only it is not 100%. Proper temps for allotted times are essential in this hobby. If you can't get  to that then you are just playing at mycology(which isn't bad), but certainly will lead to constant high failure rates early on in your subs.




lol elem entry subs... i assume you speak from experience using the aforementioned technique. from years of experience, and all sorts of different pasteurization methods, and varying strains; this has been the simplest method that i've found and has proved to work, time and time again. you claim coir/verm is not 100%, is this your opinion or fact? because my experience proves otherwise. i understand temps don't need to be more than 160-170 but what is the acceptable limit before killing off too many needed bacterias? i'm sure the temp drop from boiling to being mixed with room temperature substrate must be significant, perhaps 20-30 degrees. if the water temp after removing from boiling is 205, that would put the substrate temp around 175-185 at the beginning of pasteurization. with a peak temperature of approx 185, i would argue that pasteurization is achieved successfully. i have plenty of potential for testing coming up within a week, so i plan to record temperatures at varying stages using my prep method, and i plan to document it so we will know for sure.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: DZ]
    #14062827 - 03/03/11 08:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:ahahaha: yes as a matter of fact, it is from years of experience and trying many different methods, hotshot.
P.s and those that paved the way for us as well.


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    #14062878 - 03/03/11 08:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

no need for name calling and degradation, we'll let my planned research decide  :smile:


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: DZ]
    #14062905 - 03/03/11 08:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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and those that paved the way for us as well.




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no need for name calling and degradation, we'll let my planned research decide  :smile:



We've already been where you are going bro, No offense .... Thats all were sayin'


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    #14062922 - 03/03/11 08:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It wasn't the worst name I could think of for pulling some experience card on your part. Have fun with your experiments. If you wanna save some time use the search function. maybe someone there will meet your requirements of "experienced"


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    #14062971 - 03/03/11 08:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

thank you for your concern, i've seen no documentation of your claims profph. so you guys are telling me that substrate in a bucket that maintains a temperature of 140-185 for at least 1 hour, by whatever means, hasn't achieved pasteurization? i strongly doubt this, and plan on disproving this theory, but no hard feelings if i'm wrong, and none if i'm right


no experience 'cards' needed, i was just pointing out that it does WORK from my experience. im sure people do things differently which could result in different outcomes.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: Ozzy]
    #14063007 - 03/03/11 09:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yea, I didn't think "hot shot" was too harsh..... I usually like to go with fucko. It has a better ring to it. :shrug:


You should have heard some of the shit I was saying yesterday,,,, I was not having a healthy morning :facepalm:


Anyway, I thik the bucket is ok if you use a thermometer and make sure the water your dumping in the bucket is not over 180. Sixty seconds is not long enough for water to drop from 212 which is boiling to 180 which is the high end of pasteurization and before sterilization.

If you just dump boiling water or near boiling water into a bucket with coir you are risking sterilizing it which in turn can cause your bulk sub to contaminate.

I used the bucket method many years ago. I do things correctly now and pasteurize in a steam bath for 2 hours.

I have a zero percent contamination rate.


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    #14063021 - 03/03/11 09:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yea, I didn't think "hot shot" was too harsh..... I usually like to go with fucko. It has a better ring to it. :shrug:


You should have heard some of the shit I was saying yesterday,,,, I was not having a healthy morning :facepalm:


Anyway, I thik the bucket is ok if you use a thermometer and make sure the water your dumping in the bucket is not over 180. Sixty seconds is not long enough for water to drop from 212 which is boiling to 180 which is the high end of pasteurization and before sterilization.

If you just dump boiling water or near boiling water into a bucket with coir you are risking sterilizing it which in turn can cause your bulk sub to contaminate.

I used the bucket method many years ago. I do things correctly now and pasteurize in a steam bath for 2 hours.

I have a zero percent contamination rate.



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    #14063067 - 03/03/11 09:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

that's fine if that's your experience. i've used this method of pasteurizing for at least 50, 56 quart monotubs, within the last 5 or 6 months. not a single tub has contaminated before at least 2-3 flushes, and if they're picked carefully usually more if the yields are worth it. these have all been 500-600 gr of coir and 2 qts of verm mixed with 4.5-5 qts of nearly boiling water, spawned with 4-5 qts of WBS. i can't speak about hpoo, but i will be able to soon, and i see no logic to disprove it from working.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: DZ]
    #14063133 - 03/03/11 09:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well there you go, add some nitrogen and see how that works.:ahahaha:

me and the prof can run through what takes you 6 months to do in a month.

seriously, you are talking outta well....you know. a simple serch of RR+pasteurization will yield you all the answers of why you are wrong, but go ahead and beat that dead horse with your two part mix.

you obvioulsy don't have the expereince to speak on the subject, so why are you arguing the facts?

there are benificial bacteria that you kill off at those temps, which leaves your subs suceptable to contams.


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    #14063714 - 03/03/11 11:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

grow up, this is not a pissing contest. 0% contamination is 0% contamination, who cares how much you can do? the fact is, i believe it will work and you dont. neither of us have evidence to prove either way!


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    #14063820 - 03/03/11 11:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"Manure should be maintained at the center of the substrate at 140F to 160F for at least one hour, but 90 minutes is better.  Any method you use that achieves the above will work.
RR"

evidence


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: dharmabum182]
    #14063855 - 03/03/11 11:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

For the price of that thing, you can get a 55 gallon drum, plus propane burner and tank.
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    #14064647 - 03/04/11 04:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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For the price of that thing, you can get a 55 gallon drum, plus propane burner and tank.
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That is exactly what I plan on doing as soon as this wretched winter breaks and I can get outside.....

The snow is as deep as your waist here ..... I haven't been in my back yard in 2 months.....

The bird feeders at the wood line are still half full; so no need to break out the snow shoes yet! :snow:

Its been negative ten outside, and like you said I still have to crack the windows to keep the grow rooms at ambient temps. Other wise when you walk up there it is 90 degree,,,

Sure cheap in terms of fuel efficiency:laugh2:


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14064817 - 03/04/11 06:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

There are cheaper ways that take more time and require more supervision. But that's the tradeoff. A one time purchase of a waterbath will continue to reward me with more time for other work. Plus it's resellable, in case I find a better method down the road. Just made smart sense to me.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: DZ]
    #14064928 - 03/04/11 07:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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grow up, this is not a pissing contest. 0% contamination is 0% contamination, who cares I cared how much you can do? the fact is, i believe it will work and you dont. neither of us  I don't have evidence to prove either way!



Fixed your statement.

....................lol elem entry subs... i assume you speak from experience using the aforementioned technique. from years of experience, and all sorts of different pasteurization methods, and varying strains;...................

First off, you cared about experience as stated in your post upthread.

Second, coir and verm is the most basic sub you can do, great that you haven't had a contam. That will change as you start adding ingredients. period. As much as you want to argue that FACT it is not gonna change the outcome.

Stating that it works 100% was wrong on your part and ther are countles threads to prove  your remark on it wrong aside from MY EXPERIENCE.

It works well on the two part mix, which is why it's popular, but it's not 100%.
And to reiterate, you will find out this FACT when you get a little deeper into mycology.

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"Manure should be maintained at the center of the substrate at 140F to 160F for at least one hour, but 90 minutes is better.  Any method you use that achieves the above will work.
RR"

evidence




Good luck not going over 160 and keeping it at 140 to 160 for 90 minutes when you start 20 to 30 degrees over that mark. Your logic and quote dosen't hold water from the get go. You are missing the point entirely.
I look forward to your response 6 months from now after your trials, been there done that and and so have many others, I have tried to pass that EXPERIENCE to you, I am done now. good luck:smirk: I already know the outcome.
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.....RR quotes that you should pay attention to.


You're supposed to hydrate all bulk substrates with gently warm or even cold water, and then slowly bring the field capacity mixture up to 140F and maintain that temperature in the center of the substrate mix for an hour, without letting it exceed 160F during that hour.......
RR


I recommend 140F to 160F based on experience.  Higher temps kill more of the beneficial bacteria we're trying to save, and 140F for one hour kills all mold spores, which is what we're after.
RR


........You're partially sterilizing, which is making the substrate more susceptible to contamination.........
RR

Those are 3 I found in 5 min utsf. Is that expereince enough for you, there are many other old hands with this advice, but I'll let you do the rest of your homework on your own.:pipesmoke:

If there were no need to "go above and beyond" as you say then we would all be doing it. But we don't :confused: .... wander why that is. Maybe cause it is the proper way to do it, nothing "above and beyond" about it. In actuality, you cut corners and your sub-par subsrate and lucky contam rate are what they are. sub par and lucky.
good day... I said good day......lol


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: Ozzy]
    #14065016 - 03/04/11 08:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14065454 - 03/04/11 10:04 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i been skimming this but i figured another person saying

"hpoo wont work in the bucket tek"

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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: DZ]
    #14065536 - 03/04/11 10:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I like the scientific one. It looks uber-pro. I'd take that over a roaster any day.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: Hitsuzen]
    #14065548 - 03/04/11 10:32 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@Ozzy: Dr. Who is da shit.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: Ozzy]
    #14065574 - 03/04/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/9315587



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While that works for ELEM ENTRY subs like Damion5050 tec, when you move beyond the simplicity of cubes, that kind of stuff doesn't work. And even with coir/verm only it is not 100%. Proper temps for allotted times are essential in this hobby. If you can't get  to that then you are just playing at mycology(which isn't bad), but certainly will lead to constant high failure rates early on in your subs.




That dosen't mean it fails all the time. I read your "evidence" the first time.
still dosen't make it the right way to do something.

If I build ya a house and  leave you with no drainage, it sure would be comfortable for a while but sooner or later things will go bad fast.

And Dr. Who is indeed "the shit"...:lmafo:

And on a final note. that pateurizer  is cool, just pricy for my taste. If I would have seen it at a lower price and didn't have the tools I have currently, I would buy it, it would be great for a small setup.

OP ,sorry for having to dispel poor info in your thread.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: Ozzy]
    #14065612 - 03/04/11 10:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I used to use the bucket method to work with poo.

The idea was that if you broke up the coir on the surface of the poo. When you poured the water in it would insulate the poo underneath,.

The method worked for me for about 6 months straight..... Then I got the Thrich something fierce. This was due to the Poo getting sterilized from over temping.

Bottom line is pouring boiling water into a bucket is not only a lazy ass fuckin way of doing things.

It is not the correct way of doing things either.

Sorry guys but we got a whole feild (mycology) on our backs on this one. It is not a matter of opinion it is a matter of fact.

Buckets are the wrong way to do it :shrug:

I'm starting to sound like a broken


Lazy is not how people get real shit accomplished.

Its how you get diminished returns though.... That is for certain,.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14065656 - 03/04/11 10:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Put it this way,

When you work with as much as Ozzy and I do, You can't risk green shit hitting.

If you get an outbreak in an environment like that it can be a really bad situation to be in.

You can't know what this is like until you experience it and learn to deal with it and move on.

The first key to "dealing" with something like this is to trace your steps back, .

On the way back one of those steps is to tighten up on sloppy procedures (i.e. "the bucket") and work from there; trying to isolate the problem.

You think it sux losing one tub or two tubs,,...

Imagine how much it would suck to lose like 20-30 tubs.

Thats not something I have ever experienced nor will it be because I take the time and put the work in.

If you are going to do something take pride in it and do it right.

This is what will separate you from the pack..... Otherwise you will never truly be successful.

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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14065675 - 03/04/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Imagine how much it would suck to lose like 20-30 tubs.




It's all relative I suppose. We have over 1000 substrates colonizing at any given time.  If there was a mold outbreak, it would wipe out our whole livelihood.

One thing about doing a lot of substrates simultaneously is it seriously shortens the learning curve.  You find out what shortcuts are OK, and what shortcuts will cut your balls off.
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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14065728 - 03/04/11 11:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Imagine how much it would suck to lose like 20-30 tubs.




It's all relative I suppose. We have over 1000 substrates colonizing at any given time.  If there was a mold outbreak, it would wipe out our whole livelihood.

One thing about doing a lot of substrates simultaneously is it seriously shortens the learning curve.  You find out what shortcuts are OK, and what shortcuts will cut your balls off.
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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14066027 - 03/04/11 12:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Imagine how much it would suck to lose like 20-30 tubs.




It's all relative I suppose. We have over 1000 substrates colonizing at any given time.  If there was a mold outbreak, it would wipe out our whole livelihood.

One thing about doing a lot of substrates simultaneously is it seriously shortens the learning curve.  You find out what shortcuts are OK, and what shortcuts will cut your balls off.
RR




That would not be a fun scenario; I don't think many people could even remotely grasp how much something like that would cost to clean up :frown:

I run 30 cube, 30 reishi, 30 oyster, w/ 100 % success ......   

I am striving to move in the direction of but am nowhere near 1,000 blocks!!!!!



Thats just awesome !!! :minigun:

Talk about painting a masterpeice :smile:


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    #14066212 - 03/04/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

and i feel like a bad ass with a few tubs laying around.... way to make a nigga feel insignificant.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: ProfessorPinHead]
    #14066222 - 03/04/11 01:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with the relativity comment by RR. If you're growing on something close to a commercial scale and this is your primary source of income, there is no room for error. But I doubt the majority of people frequenting these boards are even close to this level. Regardless, whatever works for you, do it. No technique guarantees success like experience with that given technique, and tweaking it to suit your needs. I'm going to pasteurize a 50:50 hpoo/verm substrate, via the bucket technique, and test temps throughout the process and will post unbiased results; so we will know within 3-4 weeks. I believe I can find the perfect ratios of substrate to water @ a certain temp, to achieve 170 initial temp and over 140 for 60-90 minutes, but we shall see. I can't see any harm in a scientific approach to simplifying the difficult task a home cultivator faces of pasteurizing large amounts of substrate.


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: DZ]
    #14066298 - 03/04/11 01:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

oven roasters work great for pasteurization baths, i have an old one that my great grandma had its from like 1930, still works damn good, just got to wear rubbergloves to touch the dial when its on or you get a lil jolt ahaha


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Re: High Tech Solution To The Pains Of Pasturization [Re: gitranduhShutr]
    #14066325 - 03/04/11 01:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The best answers you will receive in life require the fewest words.

Buckets are not proper vessels for pasteurization of bulk substrates. :2cents:


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