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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1406355 - 03/24/03 03:36 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

i support american troops who surrender. if you're talking about iraqi troops surrendering, well i guess you can believe the propaganda, like when they said that 8,000 troops had surrendered en masse...more like en bullshit. wake up


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406360 - 03/24/03 03:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I nominate Rail Gun as the most unpredictable independent thinker on this forum. I respect that immensely.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1406392 - 03/24/03 03:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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I nominate Rail Gun as the most unpredictable independent thinker on this forum. I respect that immensely. 



I nominate luvdemshrooms  :tongue: 


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: EchoVortex]
    #1406395 - 03/24/03 03:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks!


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1406402 - 03/24/03 03:51 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1406406 - 03/24/03 03:52 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

I nominate Rail Gun as the most unpredictable independent thinker on this forum. I respect that immensely. 



I nominate luvdemshrooms  :tongue: 



What the hell are you talking about???  Luvdemshrooms is easily one of the most predictable members on this board.  It's always stuff about how "libbies" ruin everything, U.N. is worthless, Welfare is stealing, Protesters support Saddam, France sux, etc. and insert witty insult here.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: silversoul7]
    #1406414 - 03/24/03 03:56 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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What the hell are you talking about??? Luvdemshrooms is easily one of the most predictable members on this board. It's always stuff about how "libbies" ruin everything, U.N. is worthless, Welfare is stealing, Protesters support Saddam, France sux, etc. and insert witty insult here. 



It's just too hard to get sarcasm across on an internet forum  :wink: 


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406447 - 03/24/03 04:09 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Rail_Gun, I really admire your posts in this thread. I am happy to know that you see what a terrible thing this really is.

I think the problem with Americans is that they are thousands of miles away from this war. If this was in OUR soil, Im sure things would be a hell of a lot different. No one wants to witness war first hand. I mean, the American people as we speak are doing things normally, "Oh, there's a war, I hope everything is okay"...Then doing their daily activities. We live in such a privelaged place.

No matter what the government says "Oh we are not targeting civilians", I know for a fact that those troops have a strong hatred towards the arabic people. They have been brainwashed to think that they too are part of the problem. I know some people who were in the first gulf war, and still to this day call Arabs "sand niggers"... That shows obvious disrespect and ignorance to the whole subject. We are really not going to be able to destroy Iraq's infrastructure and buildings without many civilan deaths. No matter how "smart" our missles are, we are still going to inflict a lot of damage upon the people.



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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406452 - 03/24/03 04:11 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I read in the papers and off the wires about our great victories we've had so far capturing oil fields. The oil fields are the most important to capture. The generals have their priorities, liberate the oil fields and then the people, lol. It shows it's about the oil, blood for oil.

actually, it's about protecting the iraqi infrastucture. let's face it, iraq's economy depends heavily on their oil fields. if we allowed saddam to torch them on his way out of power, then how will we expect the iraqi economy to flourish when we leave?

And now I see on television that in one city the marines are going door to door to fight people. That shows me indisputibly that this war is against arab people.

the reason they were going door to door was that the so called "civillians" that they were fighting, were actually soldiers wearing civillian attire. it's all part of the guerrilla/terroristic tactics that saddam's regime has resorted to in order to gain some kind of an edge and slow the US troops down so that he can remain in power longer.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: htownkid28]
    #1406485 - 03/24/03 04:22 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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And now I see on television that in one city the marines are going door to door to fight people. That shows me indisputibly that this war is against arab people.

the reason they were going door to door was that the so called "civillians" that they were fighting, were actually soldiers wearing civillian attire. it's all part of the guerrilla/terroristic tactics that saddam's regime has resorted to in order to gain some kind of an edge and slow the US troops down so that he can remain in power longer.



Has it occured to you that civilians in Iraq are armed, almost every Iraqi home has at least one gun. I'd bet that a lot of these "soldiers in civilian attire" are civilians doing all they can to protect their family. When soldiers start going door to door every man has the responsibliity to stick up. There's no way to justify going in to a city and terrorizing every family in the city. This kind of terror should meet with armed resistance. This is the sort of intolerable act that forced the American colonists to rebellion against English tyranny.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: rhizo]
    #1406489 - 03/24/03 04:25 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Actually there really is no "Iraq" what they call Iraq in the news is really Utah, and this is really a genocide of the Mormons by subtererranium bug people who have seized controll of the media/military.

You're the one who needs to wake up... and grow up.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1406518 - 03/24/03 04:38 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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You're the one who needs to wake up...




you're the one who's buyin what they're sellin...not me. have fun "liberating" the iraqi people.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: htownkid28]
    #1406536 - 03/24/03 04:48 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Finally a voice of reason in this thread.
How come you all don't mention how the Iraqi troops attack from windows and doors of hospitals. They obviously have on regard for the safety of their own people. If your Iraqi soldiers are so brave, how come they hid behind the skirts of their women and children? Feigning a surrender only to ambush puts the lives of the soldiers that genuinely try to surrender at risk. They obviously have regard for the lives of there own people, but then Saddam has already proven that.
Any Iraqi fighter not in uniform or wearing some sort of visible insignia should be treated as an illegal combatant under the rules of the Geneva convention. Put them in Guantanamo and see how they get along with Al Quada. If they really hate each other, maybe they will kill each other in there.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406537 - 03/24/03 04:49 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Has it occured to you that civilians in Iraq are armed, almost every Iraqi home has at least one gun.

yes it has. it was reported months ago that saddam issued guns to every iraqi citizen specifically for the purpose of fighting the US soldiers upon their entering the city. at the same time, though, it was no secret to the iraqi people that war was on the horizon and they knew that coalition forces would be passing thru their cities and towns. so, having said that, if you were an iraqi citizen why would you step out of your house and engage either side knowing that there would most assuredly be return fire? why would you risk your life and the lives of your family like that? i don't blame the marines for fighting back. if i was out there and someone was firing at me from a house, i would definitely return fire. btw, these weren't hunting rifles these people had. so, the picture that you painted of bloodthirsty american soldiers attacking families and looting the country doesn't really hold up.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406544 - 03/24/03 04:54 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I feel like the whole anti-war movement in my country has lost it's way by supporting that which it says it's against.

You make good points. I think that many anti-war protestors say they support the troops so as to NOT get the basic argument(s) derailed by additional emotionalism; sort of like the medical marijuana people saying that are not for full legalization but for compassion.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: htownkid28]
    #1406546 - 03/24/03 04:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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if you were an iraqi citizen why would you step out of your house and engage either side knowing that there would most assuredly be return fire?



I'm not talking about guys going out and shooting at soldiers, I'm talking about marines going door to door bringing the battle to the family kitchen of every home in a city.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: htownkid28]
    #1406548 - 03/24/03 04:55 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Iraqi civillians have no need to protect their families from our soliers. You make it sound like we go in and rape and execute the civillians. That is Saddams MO ntot ours.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406552 - 03/24/03 04:58 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

Iraq has brought the battle to the suburbs not us. Why is that so hard for you to understand. We would gladly meet them in the dessert if they had the balls.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #1406562 - 03/24/03 05:04 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

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Iraq has brought the battle to the suburbs not us. Why is that so hard for you to understand. We would gladly meet them in the dessert if they had the balls.



That's the problem, the US started a war to get the A-rabs oil. They'de be fools to fight pitched battles against the most powerful military in the world. It's not a matter of balls, it's brains.

Do you know many military men and conservatives? I do. They're about all I know. They all hate the A-rabs, towel heads, and sand niggers. The soldiers on the ground mostly have this same bloodthirstyness in their veins. Given this I'm not surprised that they are attacking families.


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Re: Let's not support our troops [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #1406585 - 03/24/03 05:21 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I can't say I really support the troops, but I wish them the best. I'd rather not see anyone harmed. I don't want to see the american soldiers succeed in killing the Iraqi people, and I don't want to see american troops killed.

One of the main reasons I'm against the war is because I don't want to see ANYONE harmed.


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