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Re: metzizah bepeh--Jews suck babies penis after circumcision [Re: PreparationH]
    #14059363 - 03/03/11 11:13 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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elaborate.  Cultural relativism preaches tolerance about cultures, but I don't tolerate cultures that suck blood from pen0rs of babies.




On one hand, CR preaches tolerance about other cultures but, on the other hand, it creates a class of people who condemn honest criticism of these same cultures.

Take, for example, the "Political Correctness" fad: it has given rise to a whole range of people who are so concerned with how to label other cultures and peoples in a "relative-friendly" way that they have, largely, become intolerant of people who refuse to adhere to their model of symbolic (linguistic) culture.


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Re: metzizah bepeh--Jews suck babies penis after circumcision [Re: Remix]
    #14059375 - 03/03/11 11:14 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

O good observation I agree, but it's like people preaching tolerance of race while not being tolerant of racists lol

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Re: metzizah bepeh--Jews suck babies penis after circumcision [Re: PreparationH]
    #14059434 - 03/03/11 11:25 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

i think human culture should have moved past mutilation of human genitals at least 20 years ago.

not all traditions are worth keeping just for the sake of tradition.

should we keeping using fossil fuels because it's tradition?


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Re: metzizah bepeh--Jews suck babies penis after circumcision [Re: broken]
    #14059451 - 03/03/11 11:28 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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i think human culture should have moved past mutilation of human genitals at least 20 years ago.

not all traditions are worth keeping just for the sake of tradition.

should we keeping using fossil fuels because it's tradition?



agreed


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Zenarchist23]
    #14059486 - 03/03/11 11:35 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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This ritual was done to mark a newborn as a member of the tribe, and at the time of development, that meant a harsh life in a sandy desert environment.

According to historical account, ungents (oil based topical ointments) such as the Holy Anointing Oil of Exodus 30, were in common use by the priesthood.

The Holy Announting Oil recipe calls for 9 POUNDS of flowering Cannabis bud to 8 gallons of olive oil, and other spices such as cinnamon, myrhh, and others used for medicinal and anti-bacterial properties.

Having constantly made, ingested, and used these ungents, the priest class had the most active immune system. Their saliva was probably the cleanest damn thing in that dusty desert tent that they had to perform surgery in (don't even think about water or alcohol, those were kept in animal skins, remember).


So at that time, it had a medically useful function. Now, much like most of western religion, it is a vestigial ceremony done out of a rote sense of tradition.

Gods, some of you people need to reason out multiple explanations before you jump to judgement.



People always use that "sandy desert" shit to explain away circumcision.

If that was the case, why were those born in the wilderness (Sinai) not circumcised? Seems to me the desert is the sandiest place possible.


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Re: metzizah bepeh--Jews suck babies penis after circumcision [Re: PreparationH]
    #14059551 - 03/03/11 11:48 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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but it's like people preaching tolerance of race while not being tolerant of racists lol




Not really. You don't have to be racist to not adhere to the malarkey of political correctness.

Nor do you have to be racist to point out the inherit flaws of certain culture's views on reality.
Here, I'll show you:
The Monotheistic God of Abrahamic religions tends to create an image of the universe that views monarchical systems as the true hierarchy of reality when, in fact, many nations whose primary religion can be described as "Abrahamic" contend that they adhere to democratic ideals for governance. This rift in political and religious ideology is not good for a society and will likely turn its people into neurotic narcissists who - must - in the name of patriotism/nationalism, de-spiritualize themselves; in the name of spirituality, de-culturalize themselves; and in the name of practicality, become total hypocrites.

Now, I'm not necessarily arguing the above thesis... but it is a very apt example of how you can criticize an entire cultural reality without being racist or "intolerant" in the least.


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Mchaggis]
    #14059593 - 03/03/11 11:57 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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Circumcision is a barbaric practice involving baby-dick blood-sucking? And the Jews do really weird things just to be different from everyone else?

Why am I not surprised?




As an atheist, I am very grateful that I had a circumcision; not only is it all quite sensitive (the cut section perhaps moreso than the uncut parts), I'm sure it's easier to keep sanitary. Also, they fucked up and the scar tissue made my dick form a nice curve that always satisfies. :thumbup:


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: FuzedBox]
    #14059629 - 03/03/11 12:06 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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Also, they fucked up and the scar tissue made my dick form a nice curve that always satisfies. :thumbup:



not supposed to be curved that much bro

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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Set]
    #14059635 - 03/03/11 12:07 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

Uh, when did I specify the angle? Piss off.


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #14059829 - 03/03/11 12:46 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

everyone knows Jews prefer the blood of unbaptized gentiles, anyway


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: DrMambo]
    #14060657 - 03/03/11 03:04 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

If circumcision is so brilliant, then why don't Jews wait until adulthood
to get it done?

Oh, that's right, because as soon as you figure out what it's for, you're not going to be letting any fusty old Priest anywhere near it with a sharp blade.

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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Psilly Billy] * 1
    #14060666 - 03/03/11 03:06 PM (13 years, 2 days ago)

:facepalm:

You've got seven days to make the cutoff, or you're not in the club.


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Doc_T]
    #14062781 - 03/03/11 08:35 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

its because a priest giving blowjobs to babies is holy, and giving them to consenting adults for money is prostitution


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #14063146 - 03/03/11 09:24 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

Sweet Merciful Fuck, you people are rabid judgementalists. No-body was "defending" circumcision, or even the specific ritual cited. I'm not circumcised, and wouldn't do it to my child. (Female circumcision is  a whole other story, and one of the most fucked up tribal male power enforcement techniques on the planet, and the practice needs to be exterminated).

But it's very telling that many of you immediately sexualize something that happens to involve the penis. Does that mean that when you go get a physical at the doctor, you secretly sexualize it when he holds your genitals and asks you to cough?

That must really dwell on your mind.

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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Zenarchist23]
    #14063152 - 03/03/11 09:25 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Zenarchist23]
    #14063182 - 03/03/11 09:31 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

I mean, there's some fucked up sexual rituals out there, why not go find one and have something to legitimately bitch about (from within your cultural reality-tunnel).

Here, I'll give you a start:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/post.cfm?id=an-ode-to-the-many-evolved-virtues-2010-09-22

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In any event, Gallup and Burch’s model reminded me also of those oft-cited Papau New Guinea tribes, such as the “Sambia,” and their semen-ingestion rituals involving young boys. On the surface, there’s a puzzling scenario here: such cultures have long histories of being embroiled in violent warfare and thus they tend to place extraordinarily high value on expressed masculinity. Yet ritualized homoerotic practices involving young boys fellating older males in order to ingest their semen are common. In a 2000 issue of the Archives of Sexual Behavior , Gilbert Herdt, a cultural anthropologist who studied the Sambia, along with his colleague Martha McClintock (the same McClintock named for the menstrual cycle synchrony effect discussed earlier), describe how “… by the age of 11–12 (Sambia) boys have become aggressive fellators who actively pursue semen to masculinize their bodies.”

In the past, this semen ritual has been conceptualized by cultural anthropologists such as Herdt mostly in symbolic terms. Yet, just a hunch, but since testosterone from the seminal plasma could penetrate the oral mucosa, along with a surfeit of other hormones and chemicals having possible spin-off effects on male behavior, it is not inconceivable to me that there may be genuine psychobiological consequences of semen intake occurring in these young swallowing males that are not wholly out of line with the Sambia’s own folk beliefs. It might not be a theory you want to run by your local pastor or should bring up at your next PTA meeting, but you get the idea.



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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Zenarchist23]
    #14063187 - 03/03/11 09:32 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

:whacker:


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Zenarchist23]
    #14063199 - 03/03/11 09:34 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

why don't you start a thread about it? we we're talking about what this thread is about.


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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: broken] * 1
    #14063251 - 03/03/11 09:44 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

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why don't you start a thread about it? we we're talking about what this thread is about.





Oh, at this point I'm quite On Topic for this thread. LOL.

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Re: metzizah bepeh [Re: Zenarchist23]
    #14063266 - 03/03/11 09:47 PM (13 years, 1 day ago)

uhuh

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