Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
.
    #14049843 - 03/01/11 05:19 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:43 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
. [Re: Calvin]
    #14050361 - 03/01/11 06:39 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:43 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleIcelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
Male


Registered: 03/15/05
Posts: 95,368
Loc: underbelly
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14051164 - 03/01/11 09:06 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

It's not that. I have a short attention span. Anything over two paragraphs and I forget why I was reading it.:shrug:


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
. [Re: Calvin]
    #14051206 - 03/01/11 09:11 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:43 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleIcelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
Male


Registered: 03/15/05
Posts: 95,368
Loc: underbelly
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin] * 1
    #14051239 - 03/01/11 09:18 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

send money


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRahz
Alive Again
Male

Registered: 11/10/05
Posts: 9,260
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14051372 - 03/01/11 09:42 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Quote:

This is where the Fate and Free Will argument comes into play. Fate would tell us that because the nature of the universe is to to expand in a state of perpetual self-maintaining existence, that all within the universe would continue to exist so long as they expanded (progressed) in a state of perpetual (always progressing) self-maintaining (using your progression...) existence (...to exist). In other words, it our UNIVERSAL NATURE, OUR INNER GODLINESS to progress.

Free Will would state that we can consciously choose both to progress initially (evolve) and that at any time we can also choose to manipulate (regress/control).




I think both good and evil evolved, so I don't think we're approaching a point in which the subjective world of a whole society is challenged by a choice between them. Progress and evil go hand in hand. I think it's all fate and no free will.


--------------------
rahz

comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace


"You’re not looking close enough if you can only see yourself in people who look like you." —Ayishat Akanbi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
. [Re: Calvin]
    #14054379 - 03/02/11 12:32 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:43 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegiza
Male

Registered: 08/25/09
Posts: 2,089
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14055528 - 03/02/11 04:18 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

WHICH IS THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE? GOOD (progression) or EVIL (literal self-destruction).




Good and Evil are equal, IMO
Evil destroys progression and Good rebuilds what evil destroys.
Over and over again it seems.
"Yin and Yang"

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleJufin
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/31/08
Posts: 5,116
Loc: Australia
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14056377 - 03/02/11 06:54 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

I agree with most of what you said apart from the good and evil part, as that is purely subjective.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
. [Re: Calvin]
    #14056452 - 03/02/11 07:08 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:44 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegiza
Male

Registered: 08/25/09
Posts: 2,089
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14056520 - 03/02/11 07:24 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

If it is marked 'end times' then it would be destruction.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegiza
Male

Registered: 08/25/09
Posts: 2,089
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: giza]
    #14056529 - 03/02/11 07:26 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

But if it's the end times of a way of thinking, then it may be rebuilding.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblegiza
Male

Registered: 08/25/09
Posts: 2,089
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: giza]
    #14056568 - 03/02/11 07:34 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Like if there is a 'messiah' then I would think he would bring morals to govern the world, which would be the destruction of some and the rebirth of others.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
. [Re: Calvin]
    #14057014 - 03/02/11 08:53 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:44 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKickleM
Wanderer
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 17,914
Last seen: 1 day, 12 hours
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14057203 - 03/02/11 09:38 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

"We have to make a choice between Good and Evil".

I didn't read anything but this last bit of your last post. Does this sum up how you feel? If so, why do you think we have to make a choice? Why can't I both create and destroy?


--------------------
Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleRahz
Alive Again
Male

Registered: 11/10/05
Posts: 9,260
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14057345 - 03/02/11 10:06 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

What end times?:shrug:

I mean, we all have personal end times...


--------------------
rahz

comfort pleasure power love truth awareness peace


"You’re not looking close enough if you can only see yourself in people who look like you." —Ayishat Akanbi

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
. [Re: Calvin] * 1
    #14057410 - 03/02/11 10:20 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:44 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineKickleM
Wanderer
 User Gallery

Registered: 12/16/06
Posts: 17,914
Last seen: 1 day, 12 hours
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
    #14057480 - 03/02/11 10:36 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Ok, so I read it, and while I see why you personally think it is necessary, it doesn't really follow IMO. Unless we are in control of evolution, which is highly unlikely, there is no reason we should be in control of what happens to our species over the long haul. If we are annihilated, that's still progress in terms of evolution.

Do you think the dodo bird was bent on destruction and manipulation more so than the cockatoo?


--------------------
Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleJufin
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/31/08
Posts: 5,116
Loc: Australia
Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Kickle] * 1
    #14058278 - 03/03/11 02:46 AM (13 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

Kickle said:
Do you think the dodo bird was bent on destruction and manipulation more so than the cockatoo?



hahaha







Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCalvin
Registered: 04/08/10
Posts: 76
Last seen: 1 year, 1 month
. [Re: Calvin]
    #14059343 - 03/03/11 11:09 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

.

Edited by Calvin (04/28/21 05:45 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Do You Believe In God?
( 1 2 3 4 5 all )
EffedS 6,519 92 09/08/03 09:58 AM
by Clover
* God, what to even say this is about? fireworks_godS 1,224 18 08/13/03 03:45 PM
by fireworks_god
* If God really wants us to believe in him...
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Baby_Hitler 4,789 74 05/06/03 12:35 AM
by Deiymiyan
* Do u Believe, in an unconditional loving God ?
( 1 2 3 4 all )
lucid 10,452 74 09/25/03 05:08 PM
by ska8ball
* Religion and God
( 1 2 3 all )
RandalFlagg 3,918 40 09/19/03 01:49 PM
by Clover
* Thou shalt have no other gods before Me
( 1 2 3 all )
falcon 3,661 41 09/16/03 01:17 PM
by gnrm23
* why you should believe in god
( 1 2 3 all )
2Experimental 3,079 47 09/21/03 02:00 PM
by fireworks_god
* God
( 1 2 all )
pattern 1,430 33 10/08/03 12:32 AM
by Strumpling

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
2,418 topic views. 1 members, 10 guests and 16 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.022 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 14 queries.