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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: PsylioSynethesis]
    #14062231 - 03/03/11 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

sometimes L needs you to work with it to get to THAT place.  Its a weird drug like that... my first few times I didn't quite reach THAT place but after some work and understanding what acid is about I GOT there...


Get some good blotter drop 2-3-5 and do this alone in a very comfortable place put on some headphone/or not but sit back relax and LET GO...  try to relax as much as you  possibly can. Try to kinda relax your vision or close your eyes and follow the visuals all the way...

Go with it aand eventually you will have an ego death. It is something you will want over and over. Its just pure magic.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: shroomie_glen]
    #14062248 - 03/03/11 07:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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DXM is a dissociative.




Which is a type of hallucinogen, granted very different from psychedelic hallucinogens. My first psychedelic was LSD, then psilocybin.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: PsylioSynethesis]
    #14062294 - 03/03/11 07:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm, that's weird, you did LSD before mushrooms, but prefer mushrooms, huh?  Was your first LSD experience on a decent dose?  Was it profound?  Maybe the set and setting are a factor too.

But yeah, disassociatives and even deliriants are considered hallucinogens, but they're not psychedelics.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: BothHands]
    #14062380 - 03/03/11 07:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Indeed. It should be noted (I alluded to it a bit earlier) that I blame most my bad luck with LSD on my particular brain chemistry.

Never had a profound experience on it, but I've had both good and bad experiences. But mostly bad. On this my opinion should weigh less due to the above ^, but mushrooms have a much greater appeal to me.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: LuckeyMA]
    #14062605 - 03/03/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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LuckeyMA said:
sometimes L needs you to work with it to get to THAT place.  Its a weird drug like that... my first few times I didn't quite reach THAT place but after some work and understanding what acid is about I GOT there...


Get some good blotter drop 2-3-5 and do this alone in a very comfortable place put on some headphone/or not but sit back relax and LET GO...  try to relax as much as you  possibly can. Try to kinda relax your vision or close your eyes and follow the visuals all the way...

Go with it aand eventually you will have an ego death. It is something you will want over and over. Its just pure magic.


:lsdabc:  FTW




QFT

The thing with LSD is that you do need to kind of work with it. It's not just a magic drug that will shower you with awesome experiences. Perhaps it is like that for some people, or perhaps if you take a large amount that's what happens. Personally, I've never taken more than 3 hits of acid. Luckily it's usually been really good stuff so I don't worry about it but I've had trips where I've experienced more than I had on other hits of similar blotter.

The acid is only half the story of how good you're trip is going to be. The other half is you and what you think or don't think about it. Acid really plays with your mind so when you're on acid use it!

LuckeyMA is right about relaxing your eyes. It's kind of hard to say, but next time you're on acid, try to relax as much as possible and stare at a wall or something while listening to music. Now instead of just looking at the wall, try to look at the AIR in between the wall and yourself. It's a totally different way to perceive. Truthfully I just learned how to do this after my last trip, and I've tripped a lot of times before that.

IMO if I just take acid and don't try to do anything it can be rather boring, like being really really high but that's it. Letting go is also important. Don't try to force anything while you're on acid. Just go along the ride. However, just because you're going with the flow doesn't mean you can't steer the boat, quite the contrary imo. Also, listen to music. Good psychedelic music, I don't want to sound bigoted here but some music is just way better on acid. Listen to some really trippy stuff. Where the notes go really high. If you listen to the right music it will help get you higher.

Also, smoking lots of weed on acid is nice. I sometimes find I will not trip anywhere near as hard if I don't smoke weed. It's almost like I need to smoke to activate the trip sometimes. Not really but it's nice. Hope this helped.

Good luck on you're future journeys OP


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: halo]
    #14062743 - 03/03/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Acid speaks for itself. Look at what it did for an entire generation and still doing today.  There is a reason that LSD is the drug that all other psychedelics and compared to. It's the medium dude. I know shit's different for everyone yada yada.

Bro you just didn't break through. From all the recent talk about acid that Ive been reading on, right now there SEEMS to be two differen't types of white on white going around.  One type is hella potent and good and the other is ungodly weak. I, like you, got the weak stuff. It takes me 4 hits of this week WoW to breakthrough and tolerance is not a factor for me OR you since you said it was your first time.

If this is the only dose you can find, just pop for a 10 strip. Take 3, if that doesn't work... wait for a week or two and take 4or5. If it doesn't have a taste it shouldn't, SHOULDN'T harm you physically so don't trip on taking to much. I'm not an extreme tripper but even I could probably take 20 hits of that weak shit and have a great time.


OH and like Halo, the poster above said... smoke bud when are tripping, or trying to trip.
Personally I wouldn't drop acid unless I had some weed. I would postpone it if I had to.

Weed drops LSD into 5th gear instantaneously. Even on weak doses a bong bowl of some dank will have me trippin good. IMHO it's essential. That and (for me) If I blaze the whole time I can ride that acid trip out for 15+ hours If I keep smoking enough.

Good luck mang. Hit us back if you manage to make it to round #2. Which you should.:thumbup:


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: halo]
    #14062797 - 03/03/11 08:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

LuckeyMA is right about relaxing your eyes. It's kind of hard to say, but next time you're on acid, try to relax as much as possible and stare at a wall or something while listening to music. Now instead of just looking at the wall, try to look at the AIR in between the wall and yourself. It's a totally different way to perceive. Truthfully I just learned how to do this after my last trip, and I've tripped a lot of times before that.




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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14062925 - 03/03/11 08:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

When people mention about how acid isn't that great and mushrooms are. Or looking for answers and you can truly find whatever you are looking for with mushrooms. I think it can both ways. For me, when I wanna get twisted and TRIP i take the mushrooms. When I wanna have a groovy insightful time with my friends I take the acid.

I once read that LSD is intelligent and the organics are spiritual. I can agree with this. For myself at least.

Another thing I remember when some guy was spouting off about his trips is that the God that people typically find on LSD is more like a better understanding of the way the universe works and energy and things alike. Not so much as finding a higher power, I guess you could say. And in my case, this was pretty true when I really get to thinking about it.

Ive never had anything profound come from mushrooms or caci but I can imagine it would be very, very strong. Mushrooms are very powerful. Thinking about shroomin can make my palms sweat lol.

One thing that I personally think that mushrooms have on LSD is that I think they are more effective as far as self perception and helping you see and change your ways that you might be struggling with otherwise. I learn new things on both acid and mush. Boo ya. Sorry for the ramble lol.

To me, mushrooms can help fix me but the Acid will help enlighten me.  Does that make sense ?


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14063016 - 03/03/11 09:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think 'fixing me' is enlightening, which I get more on mushrooms. I will agree that mushrooms are more spiritual, acid more intellectually pleasing. Having said that, acid can sometimes feel like psychoanalysis while mushrooms are more like happy introspection (at low doses).


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: PsylioSynethesis]
    #14063106 - 03/03/11 09:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I think 'fixing me' is enlightening, which I get more on mushrooms. I will agree that mushrooms are more spiritual, acid more intellectually pleasing. Having said that, acid can sometimes feel like psychoanalysis while mushrooms are more like happy introspection (at low doses).




I see what you mean. I agree to an extent. But for ME, mushrooms will remind me that I need an attitude change, so I figure that is "fixing me". But LSD never does that to me. It seems like it's more likely to show me someone else's flaws rather than my own. It always teaches me things(enlightening) but it never teaches me things about myself (fixing me). But I mean thats just me. Technically yeah, fixing yourself is total enlightenment. I guess it's just that after a mushroom trip hits home I wake up and it's oh so real and then it can be really rough since over the night you gained a new understanding of yourself. You're right though, it's just hard for to explain these things or my feelings on the matter.

With acid I just wake up feeling like I found my place in the world it makes me feel like my life is just where it should be. Mushing is like gettin slapped in the face. Whether it's gently or not it's very effective lol. And ALWAYS insightful for me. LSD is enlightening on a larger scale for me. Mushrooms point out my petty weaknesses and flaws while I feel like acid is taking me to the next level. Or helping me at least. I need them both.  And for the record, if I had to stick with only one for the rest of my life... it would be the mushrooms.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: PsylioSynethesis]
    #14063114 - 03/03/11 09:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hey bro, mind me asking how much you trip and your doses ?

Whats your trippin habbits ? Ive seen you around and I dig your input on here.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: CounterCulturest]
    #14063262 - 03/03/11 09:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey bro, mind me asking how much you trip and your doses ?

Whats your trippin habbits ? Ive seen you around and I dig your input on here.




I've been tripping several years now, using various methods, but mushrooms are my holy grail (and I mean that in more ways than one). I try not to trip hard more than once a month, but realistically I do it less often than that. I like to meditate on around 1 to 2g periodically. But for the big ones I try to increase slightly each time, my last one being the big 5 g's (one of the most spectacular nights of my life). Next up is 7g. All measurements are for P. Cubensis thus far (soon to change :wink:). I do low doses with friends to share the wealth and talk no holds barred, but when it comes to big doses it's all about meditation (alone, dark room or shower/bath usually) for me.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: PsylioSynethesis]
    #14066317 - 03/04/11 01:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Shrooms are a much harder trip in my opinion and a lot harder to control. I'll normally take them by myself or with one significant other and stay put in a room and let the trip take me.

All the times I've done acid I feel like I've had to earn a great trip. I normally will take a walk making sure I find pleasurable spots to visit along the way where I can sit to relax and let the trip take over. Try venturing around.


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Re: LSD not being that great? [Re: Radio Flyer]
    #14066438 - 03/04/11 01:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I personally Love LSD!! I've also done extensive research on it. Also may be that what I'm getting is legit. As was mentioned in this post earlier, you may wanna give it another shot and up the dose, or try some DMT if you're looking for something with some depth.


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