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60's-style revolution?
#14057699 - 03/02/11 11:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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does anyone else think the current generation of 16-24 year olds is going through a revolution simlar to the 60's?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
#14057712 - 03/02/11 11:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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depends, really. judging by the majority of individuals in that age bracket, we are either blessed with something interesting, or doomed for utter destruction. so far, i'm leaning towards the latter.
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if you mean they are a bunch of no good potheads, then yes.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
#14057723 - 03/02/11 11:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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And what might that revolution be? I don't think there is any revolution happening besides technology and perhaps a big change in world powers.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
#14057741 - 03/02/11 11:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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like a counter-culture sort of revolution similar to the 60s
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
#14057755 - 03/02/11 11:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Medical Marijuana and eventually full legalization I suppose.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
#14057766 - 03/02/11 11:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Belac said: And what might that revolution be? I don't think there is any revolution happening besides technology and perhaps a big change in world powers.
discoveries in technology is what fundamentally drove all the revolutions of the past.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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Why must we always label the present pased on the past. The present is a unique moment in time. The 60's had a role in shaping it but there will never be another 60's, just like there will never be another 2010's.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: waves]
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Younger generations seem to be becoming more liberal and less religious/conservative to me. But only time can tell.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: waves]
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As I am 18 with a 16 year old sister I can assure you that no revolution like the one that occured in the 60s is going to happen.
Unless the youth begin to use social networking to spread information and awareness instead of using it to advertise and promote their identities.
There is hope though
if music like mgmt is embraced instead of the hardcore, metal, screamo shit which not only promotes violence at shows but also fucking sucks
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LoveYourLife said: Younger generations seem to be becoming more liberal and less religious/conservative to me. But only time can tell.
is that supposed to be a good thing?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Buckthorn]
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Enpo said: As I am 18 with a 16 year old sister I can assure you that no revolution like the one that occured in the 60s is going to happen.
Unless the youth begin to use social networking to spread information and awareness instead of to advertise an identity for themselves.
There is hope though
if music like mgmt is embraced instead of the hardcore, metal, screamo shit which not only promotes violence at shows but also fucking sucks
i fail to see how mgmt will save our generation.
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discoveries in technology is what fundamentally drove all the revolutions of the past.
I'm gonna disagree with that for the moment, but I'd like to hear you expand more so i can get a better idea of what you mean by that.
The past 11 or so years have just been one "crisis" after another. It seems like every group is in some sort of revolution. Tough to say.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: meatcakeman]
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LoveYourLife said: Younger generations seem to be becoming more liberal and less religious/conservative to me. But only time can tell.
is that supposed to be a good thing?
I wasn't speaking in a political sense. I meant that they are becoming more open-minded that a lot of things they have been fed their entire lives may just be bullshit.
I think that's good.
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#14057883 - 03/03/11 12:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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A revolution happened in the 60's?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: meatcakeman]
#14057887 - 03/03/11 12:18 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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u infidel, apparently you havn't listened to their album backwards.
i hope that massive knocks u unconscious
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Buckthorn]
#14057908 - 03/03/11 12:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Something will happen, we just won't be prepared for it and no one will see it coming. For better or worst.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
#14057917 - 03/03/11 12:27 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Somethings just gonna happen?
Aint nothing gonna happen but the growth and spread of conflicts around the world, unless people start educating themselves on logic and our current situation, Stop being so utterly infatuated with there identities and stupid dramas and stop being such consumerists pigs.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Somethings just gonna happen?
Aint nothing gonna happen but the growth and spread of conflicts around the world, unless people start educating themselves on logic and our current situation, Stop being so utterly infatuated with there identities and stupid dramas and stop being such consumerists pigs.
You don't think the spread of conflicts around the world will lead to a revolution?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
#14057955 - 03/03/11 12:41 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Waiting until everyone is forced into "revolution"....great game plan. 
Tell me do you have any idea what a revolution entails? what do you want this revolution to create and destroy, what is this revolution going to be about and lead to?
People toss around the word revolution like the word alone will lead to something, most everyone has this utterly romanticized idea of revolution.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Waiting until everyone is forced into "revolution"....great game plan. 
Tell me do you have any idea what a revolution entails? what do you want this revolution to create and destroy, what is this revolution going to be about and lead to?
People toss around the word revolution like the word alone will lead to something, most everyone has this utterly romanticized idea of revolution.
Revolution is actually a rather loose term if you think about it. I'm not saying I wan't a big rebvolution to happen or anything, but rather something will happen. Theres always revolutions happening throughout history, what makes our time any different?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: waves]
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Most people in the 18-24 age ranges dont really care about much except for the latest trends and stuff. However I am in that age range and do care about politics and our world. I go to a community college and the majority of what i hear people talk about is jersey shore and random pointless shit  I dont think they will cause a revolution. And if they did make one, I honestly think it would fail miserably. But if we get some of the older folks to kick it off, Im sure the right minded youngsters could keep it rollin
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Divinity]
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Exactly my point, A revolution requires a unification of all people with a clear and concise plan of action. Protests DO NOTHING. Listening to the innane babble of people at the mall, facebook feed or in the lineup slaps me in the face with the confirmation of how completely shallow the majority of humans mentality and worldveiw really is.
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Young people have always been trendy and seemingly uninvolved in politics and and world affairs, it's simply a phase we will all grow out of. Not to say that some of us have already gained interest.
It'll happen, just you guys wait. And even if it's not in our youth, it may happen when were older.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
#14058097 - 03/03/11 01:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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waiting accomplishes nothing.
Its not enough to sit back and fantasize about that day far off in the hazy future when we make real change happen, You gotta get out there and do, Now, always, all ways. Even if its just taking a interest in political affairs, donating a bit of money to a grass roots organization or the likes or just being a happy talkative motherfucker out in public. Do something for your people. A true revolutionary loves his people more then he hates his oppressors.
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Now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing lol
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
#14058109 - 03/03/11 01:35 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Im not arguing for the sake of arguing, Im sick of this pointless banter coming from armchair revolutionaries that dont even idea or thought about what revolution is,k how its gonna happen, and whats gonna happen.
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rabble rabble rabble!
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
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For a new system to begin, the old system has to fail. The current generation of young people (to which I belong) only have a very small role to play in what's coming.
Oh, and it might be easy to say society's in the shit, but time has shown that a minority of people can get enough power to change the world. Considering dissent among the masses is at a breaking point and even mouth breathing morons are starting to look around and see how fucked up things are, we're pretty close to some sort of revolution.
It could be a world-changing one, but at the very least, the US is going to fall from power in the next 2-5 years, just based on how our economy is doing. Once the economy really falls over, the military will be fucked without its moneyz, and soldiers will probably desert their posts to protect their families when shit hits the fan.
The rest of the world's pretty pissed with us and is starting to abandon us because they don't want to sully their names with our shitty credit. Won't take much more for us to be utterly fucked in all senses of the word, and when we come out of it, we'll probably be better off than we are now in more ways than one.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Im not arguing for the sake of arguing, Im sick of this pointless banter coming from armchair revolutionaries that dont even idea or thought about what revolution is,k how its gonna happen, and whats gonna happen.
Self-righteous assholes are a lot more annoying than armchair revolutionaries.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Belac]
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Belac said: Young people have always been trendy and seemingly uninvolved in politics and and world affairs, it's simply a phase we will all grow out of. Not to say that some of us have already gained interest.
It'll happen, just you guys wait. And even if it's not in our youth, it may happen when were older.
The counterculture movement of the 60s wasn't as massive as we think it was nowadays. Most of it was underground, and the majority of people pretty much went about their lives as usual.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Synesthetic]
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Synesthetic said: For a new system to begin, the old system has to fail. The current generation of young people (to which I belong) only have a very small role to play in what's coming.
Oh, and it might be easy to say society's in the shit, but time has shown that a minority of people can get enough power to change the world. Considering dissent among the masses is at a breaking point and even mouth breathing morons are starting to look around and see how fucked up things are, we're pretty close to some sort of revolution.
It could be a world-changing one, but at the very least, the US is going to fall from power in the next 2-5 years, just based on how our economy is doing. Once the economy really falls over, the military will be fucked without its moneyz, and soldiers will probably desert their posts to protect their families when shit hits the fan.
The rest of the world's pretty pissed with us and is starting to abandon us because they don't want to sully their names with our shitty credit. Won't take much more for us to be utterly fucked in all senses of the word, and when we come out of it, we'll probably be better off than we are now in more ways than one.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Synesthetic]
#14058140 - 03/03/11 01:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry about shitting all over your dreams, but im rather sick of people throwing around the word revolution without thinking about any sort of solution.
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Sorry about shitting all over your dreams, but im rather sick of people throwing around the word revolution without thinking about any sort of solution.
But the Beatles sing about it, SO IT MUST BE TRUW RITE?!?!?!?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: waves]
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Belac said: Something will happen, we just won't be prepared for it and no one will see it coming. For better or worst.
agreed. the way things are going right now, i definitely feel like something huge is bound to happen. not sure if it will be good or bad though.
I agree 100%. Things have been too mediocre for far too long.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: nismo2491]
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It's not that things have been mediocre nismo, but rather there are far too many things that are building up to create a change in society as we know it.
Believing that a revolution is bound to happen is not foolish or thoughtless, but rather a simple understanding of history. How big it will be is anyones guess though.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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Lol, there was a revolution in the 60s? Oh you must mean something like this 
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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a "60's style" revolution would be nothing more than a reenactment of the past.
for those of us who have grown up in the wake of that particular counter culture movement it's difficult to think of anything as exciting as what went down in "the 60's". but, like any good story, the more the past is retold and the further removed we are from it the wilder and more grandiose it becomes.
the "60s" have become enshrouded in such a mythical fog that it has become extremely difficult to distinguish fact from fiction when discussing that time.
the reality is we live in a time of great upheaval, great change, great "revolution". it's always difficult to see how great something is when you are living through it and rarely does it "feel" great to those smack in the middle of the experience.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: gerryjarcia]
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Definitely yes. Except this time I think it will be much more revolutionary. Probably a much greater impact than the 60's. (at least let's hope).
Except sans the Kent State Shootings. Those were lame.
Let's be as peaceful and even more organized than the movement of the 60's! Let's have a stronger message, let's accomplish more things!
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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clown133 said: does anyone else think the current generation of 16-24 year olds is going through a revolution simlar to the 60's?
look where that "revolution" got us fucking nowhere
So no, and if we do have a revolution is better not be like the faggy 60's.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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clown133 said: like a counter-culture sort of revolution similar to the 60s
No and I'll tell you why. There's simply not enough LSD in circulation. Back in the 60's guys like Ronald Stark and Oswely were pumping the world full of LSD. We had a whole generation of people "turning on" and those that weren't could watch the revolution right from their television.
Read this

Fantastic read about the history of LSD.
It would also help it writers and poets that were popular used LSD as well, but what would it matter? Literature seems to be unimportant in the scheme of things nowadays.
People don't want to turn on, they want to turn off and watch American Idol.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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God I hope not! The 60's are like that one girl that leads you on the whole night only to slap your hand when you reach into her pants. Shut up and do your thing the best you can instead of raging against society/politics/world.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: meatcakeman]
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Enpo said: As I am 18 with a 16 year old sister I can assure you that no revolution like the one that occured in the 60s is going to happen.
Unless the youth begin to use social networking to spread information and awareness instead of to advertise an identity for themselves.
There is hope though
if music like mgmt is embraced instead of the hardcore, metal, screamo shit which not only promotes violence at shows but also fucking sucks
i fail to see how mgmt will save our generation.
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No and I'll tell you why. There's simply not enough LSD in circulation. Back in the 60's guys like Ronald Stark and Oswely were pumping the world full of LSD. We had a whole generation of people "turning on" and those that weren't could watch the revolution right from their television.
also, it seems to me like a lot of today's generation see things like LSD and psilocybin as just another way to get "fucked up". Its no longer about finding yourself or changing the way you look at the world, but about having a "craaazy night".
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Pigasus]
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Well I also think a lot of that has to do with dosage. A lot of hits back then were supposedly around 250mics whereas the average does now is 100 or under.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Rocker232]
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Rocker232]
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I don't think our current revolution is too much like the one of the 1960's. I do see revolution in the air though. Questioning of established authority and the like. Look at what's been going on in the Middle East? The people are rejecting the old values and old power structures.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: meatcakeman]
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Enpo said: As I am 18 with a 16 year old sister I can assure you that no revolution like the one that occured in the 60s is going to happen.
Unless the youth begin to use social networking to spread information and awareness instead of to advertise an identity for themselves.
There is hope though
if music like mgmt is embraced instead of the hardcore, metal, screamo shit which not only promotes violence at shows but also fucking sucks
i fail to see how mgmt will save our generation.
massive fucking 
yeah jesus christ MGMT???? REALLY?
the only hope is a beiber cult mass suicide
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Those people don't watch the Jersey Shore.
All in all I think at this point chemicals may be the only way to create a revolution as the media has brainwashed most of the population. And don't give me the "people aren't sheep" line. 40% of this country doesn't even believe in evolution and instead thinks its all magic.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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the internet is creating a revolution in young people's minds all across the nation, combined with continued drug use (but that isn't the point).
we have all the information we could need. It's already happening in those middle eastern countries.
But it don't see it as a revolution. I see it as a renaissance of art and culture, and it's up to all of us to contribute. Like iamswim says...ya gotta be doin thangs so that it all 
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: g00ru]
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I would assume the Internet is used more for porn and getting cheat codes than actual information.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Rocker232]
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you would assume wrong! through the internet I've gotten LSD, mushrooms, dmt, spiritual experiences, information on how to meditate, and friends. Porn too though.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: g00ru]
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Any revolution that will happen is bound to be better than the 60s underground stupidity. Unless its a bunch of fat diabetics protesting.
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i think the 60's was awesome but it was a very adolescent movement. The next one will be like our 20's and it'll be the shiiiit. Probably happen slower, but last longer, and not as much downside. All in all, there is a great opportunity ahead if you're open and ready for it. Try and be where you want to be in your life by 2012, and you'll be rewarded for it by the universe 
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: meatcakeman]
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Enpo said: As I am 18 with a 16 year old sister I can assure you that no revolution like the one that occured in the 60s is going to happen.
Unless the youth begin to use social networking to spread information and awareness instead of to advertise an identity for themselves.
There is hope though
if music like mgmt is embraced instead of the hardcore, metal, screamo shit which not only promotes violence at shows but also fucking sucks
i fail to see how mgmt will save our generation.
massive fucking 
Agreed.. lol
Also, I go to shows all the time and the people actually tend to be pretty friendly and cool..
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I think those who criticize the "revolotion" of the 60's need to pull their head out of their ass and look around and see how much really HAS changed. I mean for fuck's sake, here we are communicating instantly with people from around the world on a website dedicated to psychedelic drug use. Look at soccer moms doing yoga. Look at Zen being used in advertising, hear Beatles songs on muzak. I'm not saying these are all necessarily good things, but look at how much it really changed the cultural landscape of our society.
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Dude the 60s is not responsible for any of that. It was just a bunch of dirty children with easy access to LSD who would later grow up, realize they needed jobs, and become yuppies that care more about owning SUVs and a nice home than doing drugs.
For example your first point should be accredited almost entirely to the internet and has very little to do with the 60s.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: F0SS1L]
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But man what about all the heady vibes they sent out?
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F0SS1L said: Dude the 60s is not responsible for any of that. It was just a bunch of dirty children with easy access to LSD who would later grow up, realize they needed jobs, and become yuppies that care more about owning SUVs and a nice home than doing drugs.
For example your first point should be accredited almost entirely to the internet and has very little to do with the 60s.
are you seriously trying to tell me that a website dedicated to psychedelic drugs has no link to what went on in the 60's? If it weren't for the cultural revolution of the 60's, nobody would even know what all this stuff was. (well, maybe scientists would, but the consciousness expanding properties may well have gone unexplored by the masses).
I firmly believe as well, like I said above, that the eastern philosophies that have taken root in western culture may never have if not for the open minded experimental times of the 60's. Now they are seen everywhere.
Sure, maybe you don't like hippies, and don't identify in any way with the cultural revolution of the 60's, but you must be blinding yourself with your aversion to not see these things.
Yes, there were a lot of stupid childish morons involved in the 60's, but there were also people of great genious- Leary, Alpert (AKA Ram Das), Huxley, Ginsberg, etc, who greatly influenced both psychedelic AND pop culture for ever.
There are many folks who indulged in that era who didn't become "yuppies" driving SUV's etc. These are the dumb masses who were along for the ride. There are many people who were involved in that era who went on to great things. Many become professors, psychologists, started co op businesses, spearheaded recycling efforts, environmental groups etc. To say they were all stupid dirty children on cheap LSD is a really dumb thing to say.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: F0SS1L]
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In fact the internet was first developed because the US government wanted a strong and decentralized network in case of WAR and NUCLEAR ATTACK - it may be a bit of a stretch of logic but if the hippies had their way it might not exist
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I'm not saying the 60s didn't have a cultural impact, obviously they did. But were talking about REVOLUTION. The discovery of LSD was not a revolution. Other psychedelics have been in use for hundreds to thousands of years. Eastern philosophies have been exploited and misunderstood in lots of different ways. And besides I don't think I can credit thousands of years of history to one decade simply because our side of the globe was not widely exposed to it.
Again I think the internet (just as an example) is far more of a revolution than most of the 60s. It's made information on any subject of interest widely available to those who desire it. It's the reason for almost all of my drug knowledge. It's the reason niche communities like this exist- not because we were all inspired by the 60s.
I'm not doubting that the 60s had a cultural impact. But a revolution it was not.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Rocker232]
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Rocker232 said: Well I also think a lot of that has to do with dosage. A lot of hits back then were supposedly around 250mics whereas the average does now is 100 or under.
Need some of the Orange Sunshine 
Yea last I saw in like 2005 the average dose was like 50 mics. I think the average dose has gone up a bit in the past few years though.
However, I remember seeing some old newspaper thing with the potency results from all these old popular acid tabs and while the average came out to be like 100 or somethin in the 70s, in the late 60s it was like 300ug on average. Some tabs were even like 1mg and the more popular ones were like 5-600 mics. Imagine gettin the equicvlent of like a 5 or tenstrip for your first time?
I was readin these stories from all these old hippies and shit and they were sayin that back then most of em didn't even know what acid was and they would say the coolest shit like:
"My friend came over to my house with four geltabs. He said to take half of one. I thought "No way can these little squares get me high" so I took all four. And that's where it all began". So if he was told to take half of one to trip then lets say that each of those geltabs had like 200 mics. Imagine gettin fed like 8 hits of strong WoW your first time?
I also saw in some other thread this older dude said "Back in the 70s we got this shit called windowpane. One of em had you on the ride of your life for 16 hours, I bet if anyone took two they'd have gone insane. I never tripped again after that" Crazy shit.
BTW I dont think we are going through a revolution similar to the 60s.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: F0SS1L]
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F0SS1L said: I'm not saying the 60s didn't have a cultural impact, obviously they did. But were talking about REVOLUTION. The discovery of LSD was not a revolution. Other psychedelics have been in use for hundreds to thousands of years. Eastern philosophies have been exploited and misunderstood in lots of different ways. And besides I don't think I can credit thousands of years of history to one decade simply because our side of the globe was not widely exposed to it.
Again I think the internet (just as an example) is far more of a revolution than most of the 60s. It's made information on any subject of interest widely available to those who desire it. It's the reason for almost all of my drug knowledge. It's the reason niche communities like this exist- not because we were all inspired by the 60s.
I'm not doubting that the 60s had a cultural impact. But a revolution it was not.
Oh, I see. You must have misunderstood the point I was getting at in my first post. I wasn't trying to compare cultural revolutions. I think they are equally relevant in their own right (not just the 60's and now, but also the Renaissance, etc.) I was just pointing out that the 60's did transform our society to a great deal. I hope our current revolution takes it much further. I don't know about all the airy fairy astrology stuff, but it was said that the 60's was the DAWNING of a new age. I think that sun has yet to reach high noon, but may be on it's way.
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the "60s" brought about real change and we are living in a society that has benefited immensely from the cultural revolution of the 60's. i'm not saying it was all positive, but many positive things did come about as a result of the perspective shifts that happened throughout the 60's.
who knows what the times we are living in now will change in the future, but it's just as exciting a time to be alive as it was 50 years ago.
hell, if you're paying any attention to the revelations being brought about through science and technology you should be practically nutting in your pants! spirituality and science are no longer opposing views. we are maturing as a people and it's a beautiful thing to behold.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: clown133]
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clown133 said: does anyone else think the current generation of 16-24 year olds is going through a revolution simlar to the 60's?
Definitely not, the 60s was a creative, philisophical, spiritual, and ethical - evolutionary leap.
I'm just glad to even see people walking down the streets from time to time, everyones so plugged into their tvs these days its like living in a giant ghost town. When I was growing up everyone was always outside, everywhere. This generations too spoiled, uneducated and brainwashed to start a movement like we had 50 years ago. As long as tv and hip hop are around I expect only further degredation.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: ahchela]
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I agree man, it's getting even worse. Lots of people will recognize TV as "the idiot box", but even those people are glued to their cell phones. I can't handle this shit. You can barely even have a conversation with a person anymore because they're all so distracted by irrelevant bullshit.
@nicechrisman It's all good. Lots of cool culture came out of the 60s. I've just been poking fun at the idea that it was a revolution in a grander political sense.
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: ahchela]
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clown133 said: does anyone else think the current generation of 16-24 year olds is going through a revolution simlar to the 60's?
As long as tv and hip hop are around I expect only further degredation.
Feel free to flame


Mainstream gangster rap yeah, but hip hop in general....no. There are a lot of underground rappers that rap about the current reality we live in and not the usual gangster and paper chasing bullshit you hear in the mainstream.
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haha this is so awesome. so does anyone think something will happen at or around 2012 in specific that will be a major turning point? seems likely to me..
maybe not anything in specific necessarily, but maybe great change will just really start picking up around that time..
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: owls]
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I think if enough people are convinced something will happen in 2012, then they may actually make something happen.
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i really am not sure but the fact that several different cultures/peoples from many many years ago and some today mention 2012 as a new era or another time or just that they mention it at all out of any other year is pretty fascinating.
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most definitely.. for some reason, in the back of my mind, i've felt it very necessary to make some serious lifestyle changes lately.. and oftentimes the thought of the year 2012 comes to mind..
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The only culture to have 'predicted' something is the mayans - which they didn't really predict anything and they also believe that the earth was created in 3130 something BC... they have no credibility in my mind 
They thought that sacrificing children would bring them favor with the gods and you believe what they vaguely wrote 1000+ years ago?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: gerryjarcia]
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: F0SS1L]
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F0SS1L said: Dude the 60s is not responsible for any of that. It was just a bunch of dirty children with easy access to LSD who would later grow up, realize they needed jobs, and become yuppies that care more about owning SUVs and a nice home than doing drugs.
For example your first point should be accredited almost entirely to the internet and has very little to do with the 60s.
You're right the hippies did grow up and get jobs... they became professors, lawyers, politicians, and entrepreneurs.
some of them were even involved in getting the internet started.
they're middle aged now, they are the ones in power the people they were rebelling against are sitting in nursing homes and collecting social security.
their revolution continues fight the system from within
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We live in an instant world 
The revolution of information, perhaps.
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I masturbate to revolutionize the way I feel.
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I came literally seconds before I read that... just that time o' day huh?  
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It's masturbation time alright...Was it revolutionary?
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: Pigasus]
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clown133 said: like a counter-culture sort of revolution similar to the 60s
No and I'll tell you why. There's simply not enough LSD in circulation. Back in the 60's guys like Ronald Stark and Oswely were pumping the world full of LSD. We had a whole generation of people "turning on" and those that weren't could watch the revolution right from their television.
also, it seems to me like a lot of today's generation see things like LSD and psilocybin as just another way to get "fucked up". Its no longer about finding yourself or changing the way you look at the world, but about having a "craaazy night".
This is true. My last GF didn't know entheogens from speed.  Sure set her straight though.
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Mainstream gangster rap yeah, but hip hop in general....no. There are a lot of underground rappers that rap about the current reality we live in and not the usual gangster and paper chasing bullshit you hear in the mainstream.
Well I've heard that before, yet to have my mind changed but hell I was just being an asshole talking like that anyways. Each is a world unto itself
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clown133 said: does anyone else think the current generation of 16-24 year olds is going through a revolution simlar to the 60's?
Kids have been smoking pot and taking acid since the 60s right up until now, this isn't a new thing or a repeat of the 60s, this has been going on continuously, the subculture is still there and has been all along. You will go to some gatherings and see children of the 60s partying right next to children of the 90s and everybody in between.
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nicechrisman said: I think those who criticize the "revolotion" of the 60's need to pull their head out of their ass and look around and see how much really HAS changed. I mean for fuck's sake, here we are communicating instantly with people from around the world on a website dedicated to psychedelic drug use. Look at soccer moms doing yoga. Look at Zen being used in advertising, hear Beatles songs on muzak. I'm not saying these are all necessarily good things, but look at how much it really changed the cultural landscape of our society.
TRUE dat.
anybody who says the 60's didn't do shit needs to look around and learn their cultural history
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Re: 60's-style revolution? [Re: g00ru]
#14067088 - 03/04/11 04:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sounds like the people who criticize the cultural movement of the 60's may have personal problems?
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