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Zelse
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Taking the plunge
#14056577 - 03/02/11 07:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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First time, 3.7 grams down the hatch. Taste is not altogether unpleasant, like earth from another planet maybe.
One cheeze-it per mouthful to curb strange taste.
Got my grapes, laptop, and water nearby.
30-seconds to liftoff.
Wish me luck.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056617 - 03/02/11 07:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good luck dude
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056635 - 03/02/11 07:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Glance into your problems and remember your dream especially where you end. Have fun man!
Edited by Harri (03/02/11 07:44 PM)
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Metchit]
#14056650 - 03/02/11 07:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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-------------------- Talking animals wtf... that doesn't make any damn sense.
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056656 - 03/02/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Good Vibes 
Take a look at this: http://www.vaiavanti.com/
-------------------- December 1960: "They took the drug one evening at Leary's house and had a profound experience, during which Ginsburg prophetically realized that it was a time to start "a peace and love movement". He then ran naked around the house, attempted to get Kruschev and Kennedy on the telephone and announced to the operator that he was God."
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Zelse
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Harri]
#14056657 - 03/02/11 07:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks for the good vibes so far!
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Zelse
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056708 - 03/02/11 07:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can't tell 100%, but there's a tingling and slight dizzy sensation throughout my body.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Zelse
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056762 - 03/02/11 08:04 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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definitely feeling something. Will stay on as long as I dare until I dive into my consciousnes. already feeling at one with the Slight prismaticism behind my hands when I move them.
Feel like a million molecules under my skin donut wanna sit still.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
Edited by Zelse (03/02/11 08:06 PM)
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056771 - 03/02/11 08:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Oh boy you're in for a good time.
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056773 - 03/02/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Zelse
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Harri]
#14056833 - 03/02/11 08:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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everything has a red and blue outline. Heavy warrmth and intoxication slow breathingand typing my whole body feels heavy. Could maybe use some reassurance, not negative, but breathing feels, hot, strange, alie, and this is anew an confusing experience. sorry for grammar.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Zelse
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056863 - 03/02/11 08:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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mogwai now, pretty lights was too fast .
Hard to remember what I was going to type originally.
Very intense. Like McKenna said, a WAVE. I cannot fathom of his dose right now.
everything is cool though. Cool.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056868 - 03/02/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Zelse, I advise you to step away from the computer. Play some familiar interesting music, lay down, close your eyes or turn out the lights, and let go. And keep on letting go. See you on the other side!
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056871 - 03/02/11 08:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Its all good man,
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056899 - 03/02/11 08:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sounds really cool, I'm flashing back to my first few experiences. Good luck with the rest of this...
Pretty much anything you will do will be cool or interesting so don't worry about it.
Just experience a new way to be alive.
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Zelse
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latherdome said: Zelse, I advise you to step away from the computer. Play some familiar interesting music, lay down, close your eyes or turn out the lights, and let go. And keep on letting go. See you on the other side!
I feel in sync with this advise. I will do that now. and focus on experiencing my experience as opposed to cataloguing it. thank you.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14056919 - 03/02/11 08:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Check out coins/money when tripping...its so alien
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: SHiZNO]
#14057040 - 03/02/11 08:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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"You're tripping? Oh duuude, you gotta play miniature golf."
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: centurz]
#14057224 - 03/02/11 09:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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"taking the plunge" "butt sex on mushrooms"
Ya'll need some parental figures.
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: ahchela]
#14057259 - 03/02/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Shroomery is mother to us all.
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: circastes]
#14057653 - 03/02/11 11:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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sounds like he is heading for a lay back on the couch and bask in the glory of intense thought and visualization
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Zelse
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So far it is indescribable. Thank all of you for your perspectives and input. it is amazing.
Things of note:
Being a part of a divine cosmic music or symphony
things being composed visually dot-matrix style
:thoughts of a hive mind
fungal intelligence
the realization of infinites. the trip is whatever you want it to be. that's the joy of being conscious. I'm so amazed.
I am tripping fucking balls, and will now go back to that. I justr felt the need to let my fellows at the shroomery know how I fared.
My first time: Everything is love and everything is.
Over and out. Mind officially blown.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Zelse
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14057819 - 03/03/11 12:00 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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pretty sure I'm coming down now. Thanks all for being here. Ratatat sounds amazing right now. song is 17 years
pretty sure i still should stay away from technology for now, so I'm going to ride this after-glow into dreamland.
see you all tomorrow! pleasant dreams.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14057842 - 03/03/11 12:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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glad you enjoyed it
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Good show, good show. Bravo...
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: circastes]
#14058483 - 03/03/11 05:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yay!
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Zelse
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Okay, morning all! I am now completely "sober". What a long strange trip it has been!
I do apologize for my terrible grammar and typing while I was tripping though.
Figured I'd do my best to relay and remember what happened. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 3.7 grams golden teacher.
I remember an intensity, an energy, buzzing throughout my body. Listening to music at the computer when my girlfriend came home. I didn't like the music (Started being negative), and changed it, and then I found myself staring as she made me a bed on the floor.
I then felt like I was going on a journey, and wasn't sure what was real. that when I laid down and closed my eyes I would be different. I took some time to, with difficulty, tell her how much I loved her and that no matter what happened she would always be a part of me and that I would always treasure the time we spent together.
Perhaps reality was the trip, and I would be leaving her behind to go ahead into objective infinity, which soon enough came.
The trip had a tidal quality to it; what I currently perceive to be reality came and went like waves lapping against a sandy coastline. I laid there and listened to the rain track, and began to hallucinate.
I remember an alien music, springing out, frightening at first, and then becoming more familiar. Electronic, clicks and whirs, and sounds I can't describe. This was the divine cosmic music, and every consciousness was a part of it. To realize and take part in it was pure joy.
I occasionally explored fractals in my mind, and would catch myself with eyes open as I returned to familiar subjective space.
The tide comes in, and I return to this reality and begin to speculate and understand everything, and what it is to be human, the joy of experience itself. The meaning of existence. Peeling away at layers of myself to reach my core. My pure existence.
The tide rolls out, and the person I am is smashed open on the reef and my consciousness seeps out to experience infinity and hallucination.
I let everything go, following Latherdome's advice, and gained everything in return.
When the tide came in I would call my girlfriend into the room, taking pleasure in the physical sensation of her name. I told her that I couldn't wait to share this with her, and she grabbed me and held me tight. I felt us together, entwined like the serpents around the staff of the caduceus. Surrounded by love and warmth and good. I told her to speak to me in different languages, and it was fascinating.
Eventually I realized infinite possibilities, and that everything IS. I understood the meaning of existence in the flash of a visceral, psychedelic lightning strike(which is a symbol I actually saw). An apple to the left side, an eye to the right, and a lightning strike in the center illuminating everything, and it was so SIMPLE.
I understood what it was to BE. That the point of existence was FAR simpler than people make it out to be. Consciousness is experience, and that is the whole point. To experience life. To experience period. There is no meaning to life that you don't give it. The experience is the life.
I would take journeys into deep thought and realize that everything I worry about is just a concept. Money, government, faith, monogamy, language; these things are all just concepts. What is real is the experience.
I was so interested in little things and ponderings in between my body morphing into different forms. I felt my face grow extra eyes above my first ones, deep and black like a chicken embryo's eyes. I also remember being a fish-like thing.
I remember returning and looking at my girlfriend and telling her how everything looked as though it was composed of little dots of color, like an old newspaper or comic book when you look really close.
There was really way too much to remember or describe... I was able to easily control it and a couple of times where I felt myself going negative, and caught myself. I reminded myself that negativity is just a concept, and that everything IS, and I would quickly return to that sublime state of just existing.
Music was Tool, APC, Ratatat, Pretty Lights, and the song War Pigs, which I grooved the fuck out to in my head.
Overall, it was simply life-changing. In total, it lasted about 3-4 hours, but felt like an eternity.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
Edited by Zelse (03/03/11 10:50 AM)
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14059240 - 03/03/11 10:48 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Nice report man. Reminds me of my first trip Glad you had a good one
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Zelse
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Thanks.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14059573 - 03/03/11 11:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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nice! now you know why, when people ask what it's like, it's simply impossible to convey: the more you say, the less they'll get it. your girlfriend sounds super cool: i'm sure you let her know!
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Zelse
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latherdome said: nice! now you know why, when people ask what it's like, it's simply impossible to convey: the more you say, the less they'll get it. your girlfriend sounds super cool: i'm sure you let her know!
Yeah, she is. It's her turn tonight. I hope I'm half as good a sitter as she is. She never lost patience even though I called her in the room at times 20 seconds apart. Of course for me it felt like longer.
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Holy cow, it sounds like you have one heck of an experience.
Part of me is envious, part of me is please that you joined the club.
I made a post about a week ago about "my own private sound track while on shrooms". What described is very similar to what I was trying to explain. It is something that can't really be verbalized, but once you get used to it, it is something that is to be looked forward to and enjoyed.
I almost wish I could find some sort of computer program synthesizer which would allow me to recreate the music of my trips.
That would however require me to understand music - maybe I could do it WHILE I was shrooming 
Great trip, great report!
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: LanLord]
#14060817 - 03/03/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Make sure she takes less than you did.
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Zelse
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psilocybinjunkie said: Make sure she takes less than you did.
What is the reasoning behind this?
Not challenging it, just curious.
She actually weighs a bit more than I (I only weigh like 140-150).
Did I take too much for a first time? felt just right.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14061084 - 03/03/11 04:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Drugs hit women harder then men, so does alcohol. It is a common known scientific fact that womens bodies don't process alcohol and drugs in the same way a mans body does. Men have kind of a kill switch that allows us to absorb say 40% of said substance, whereas women do not and they absorb far more, like 60-75% of the drug/alcohol. For every beer we drink we get 30% of the alcohol, and women absorb nearer 70-80% of the alcohol..
You can give her the 3.7, but if she gets too high, and ends up hating shrooms, it's your own fault, you were warned beforehand.
Edited by psilocybinjunkie (03/03/11 04:22 PM)
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Zelse
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psilocybinjunkie said: Drugs hit women harder then men, so does alcohol. It is a common known scientific fact that womens bodies don't process alcohol and drugs in the same way a mans body does. Men have kind of a kill switch that allows us to absorb say 40% of said substance, whereas women do not and they absorb far more, like 60-75% of the drug/alcohol. For every beer we drink we get 30% of the alcohol, and women absorb nearer 70-80% of the alcohol..
You can give her the 3.7, but if she gets too high, and ends up hating shrooms, it's your own fault, you were warned beforehand.
I'm not dead set on giving her anything.
What would you recommend?
Also, that's an interesting fact. Got a source pertaining to hallucinogens specifically?
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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I agree with psilocybinjunkie (if his facts are correct), it'd be like giving her a heroic dose for her first trip, that would probably scare the shit out of her. I'd say start her off on 2g, she will definitely enjoy that as she has nothing to compare it to but it MAY not be as intense as yours. Better safe than sorry though!
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psilocybinjunkie said: Drugs hit women harder then men, so does alcohol. It is a common known scientific fact that womens bodies don't process alcohol and drugs in the same way a mans body does. Men have kind of a kill switch that allows us to absorb say 40% of said substance, whereas women do not and they absorb far more, like 60-75% of the drug/alcohol. For every beer we drink we get 30% of the alcohol, and women absorb nearer 70-80% of the alcohol..
You can give her the 3.7, but if she gets too high, and ends up hating shrooms, it's your own fault, you were warned beforehand.
I fucking love you. I always wondered this, because I've recently been noticing that girls tend to act extremely stupid under low dosages of alcohol. A bottle of wine for a bitch my weight and shed be gone. A whole bottle to myself and I just feel fucked up (and love running when I'm drunk)
And also, this trip report was absolutely phenomenal. I read every single post, and I loved it all. I'm glad you tried shrooms man! Give your girl a little less than you had! I would say like 2 grams or maybe 2.5!
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: mrgibblet]
#14061263 - 03/03/11 04:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yah I read the medical article a while back, kind of a double edged sword, as women can get drunk for cheaper, higher faster, and for arguably longer too.
On the plus side (excluding the wallet) it does less damage to us fella's
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Zelse
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Well, cool then. More shrooms for me!
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mrgibblet said:
I fucking love you. I always wondered this, because I've recently been noticing that girls tend to act extremely stupid under low dosages of alcohol. A bottle of wine for a bitch my weight and shed be gone. A whole bottle to myself and I just feel fucked up (and love running when I'm drunk)
And also, this trip report was absolutely phenomenal. I read every single post, and I loved it all. I'm glad you tried shrooms man! Give your girl a little less than you had! I would say like 2 grams or maybe 2.5!
Glad you enjoyed it!
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
Edited by Zelse (03/03/11 04:43 PM)
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psilocybinjunkie said: Drugs hit women harder then men, so does alcohol.
This is untrue in several cases known to me, including that of my wife, who is extraordinarily insensitive to psilocybin. She has felt only mild effects on amounts higher than i have ever dared to try -- past the totally immobile point.
There's really no way to know in advance what her sensitivity is, unless you want to step it up gradually from tiny doses over multiple sessions. I've heard, and it seems about right, that a "full" dose is 5-10x what a "threshold effects" dose is. So if she feels .5g very gently, full would be 2.5-5g. Now, my wife barely feels 4g, and she's never had a full experience because I just can't stand the idea of encouraging her to try 20-40g for her "first time for real."
Anyway, in my experience high doses are actually a bit easier than low, as long as you submit, submit, submit. Underdoses suck. Her personality might be different, however.
Having seen the OP have such a good time so recently, her attitude is probably really good, at least. At the end of the day, all the OP can do is assure that she won't be able to hurt herself or flee if she freaks. It's her journey.
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Thinking we may say fuck it, split the difference and go 3 even.
I'll talk to her about it and see how she feels and we'll do whatever she's comfortable with.
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
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Sounds good!!!
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: centurz]
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centurz said: "You're tripping? Oh duuude, you gotta play miniature golf."
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14062792 - 03/03/11 08:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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damn, i fuckin' love mushrooms and you made me wanna consume right now 
great trip report, thanks for the sharing it!
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Zelse
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I'm glad all of you are enjoying it, and I hope it may help some new people.
Update on my girlfriend: She took 3.1 grams around 2-3 hours ago. She's all giggles and sunshine.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14063491 - 03/03/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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excellent! sending love on all channels
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Zelse
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Thanks for that, all went well. We now seriously believe the world should eat a light dose with breakfast every morning.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
#14066164 - 03/04/11 12:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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ah, sadly that gets old pretty fast though.
my arc: after the first great experience, i was enthusiastic, and partook with little premeditation, frequently, different dosages, etc. And i got my ass kicked really hard a few times with "bad trips." It's not that the trips were "bad," but very very unpleasant experiences that still make me shudder to remember years later. So i was a fucking moron for going in unprepared, treating it casually like beer or candy. It's special, and if you stop treating it that way, lose any respect, it can turn on you, and when all that amazing power goes dark, it's dark indeed. I hope you don't have to learn this firsthand like i did.
Some little rules i follow now, enforced by overwhelming anxiety at having not observed in the past:
1. don't come back for seconds until you've finished everything on your plate. don't journey again until you've finished processing what you got last time. doesn't mean you have to figure it all out, but that you've stopped making progress integrating it.
2. never, ever dose if you have any responsibilities of any kind later the same day. because that's when you will lose track of time and spend the trip panicking looking at a clock every 30 seconds worried that you're not going to be back to baseline in time.
3. even small doses can be shattering. never think that small doses will be OK in sets/settings where big doses wouldn't be appropriate. dosage matters for sure, but not in the requirement to be fully committed.
do what you want, of course. i'm not sure i would have paid attention to this advice myself. welcome to inner space.
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Zelse
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What I feel I've gained, was that it's okay to be human. There's a reason I'm here, and it's to have the human experience. When it's over, who knows, but I now understand that the point of existence is just that: to exist.
I feel like it showed me what truly matters about being human, and what are simply human created concepts that don't matter so much. To get the most out of my human experience i need to think and FEEL most of all. Feelings and thought are not concept, they are the essence of human consciousness.
However, I don't feel like it's something I'd like to do even once a week. It's spiritual ecstasy for me, not feel-good candy.
I feel like maybe once or twice a month would be a maximum amount of trippage for me.
I feel like all the respect I showed, mental preparation, premeditation, and lifestyle changes beforehand, really helped me to have the positive experience I did.
-------------------- Feed my will to feel this moment, urging me to cross the line. Reaching out to embrace the random. Reaching out to embrace whatever may come. Taking the Plunge: My First Trip The Tao te Ching
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Re: Taking the plunge [Re: Zelse]
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Zelse said: What I feel I've gained, was that it's okay to be human. There's a reason I'm here, and it's to have the human experience.
It's the Teilhard de Chardin chestnut: "We are not human beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a human experience."
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However, I don't feel like it's something I'd like to do even once a week. It's spiritual ecstasy for me, not feel-good candy.
I feel like maybe once or twice a month would be a maximum amount of trippage for me.
Once a month was heavy for me. Now it's about once a season.
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I feel like all the respect I showed, mental preparation, premeditation, and lifestyle changes beforehand, really helped me to have the positive experience I did.
I'm sure that's right. First times cut some slack because, my god, it's just so astounding and novel, how could you possibly not love it?
Happy travels.
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