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Re: What- are you serious? And to everyone---
    #14056 - 04/24/00 05:46 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

the green/brown thing is a contam and you'd better get it out quickly/cleanly or it will spread. My friend got hit by this growing yellowish-white regions that turned green, and eventually they showed up everywhere.

It sounds like a contam. If it is, get it out and don't breath the shit.

congradulations.. unless you describe how the small ones were grown no one can guess why they are small.



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Re: What- are you serious? And to everyone---
    #14058 - 04/24/00 05:54 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

50% of the time I grow, my cakes get hit with the same green mold as soon as there final flush is done. I try and try to be as sterile as I can and it always happens when there done flushing. Not really a problem for me because like I said, there done flushing. Just interesting. Any input anyone?


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Re: What- are you serious? And to everyone---
    #14059 - 04/25/00 07:50 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Every casing I tried turned into green shit prior to a flush or right after a tiny weenie flush.

Cakes are a different story. My first ever cakes went damn near 4 flushes (6 weeks) and never showed any signs of contams. I pitched them to be replaced with fresh cakes.

Ever since then every cake has died a green death after the second flush. Very frustrating. I've done everything my little brain can think of to be a sterile as possible, just seems that the green monster found my address and now he won't leave!

OH well, 2 flushes from 9 cakes still gets me little more than an oz dried, which more than satisfies my needs :wink:

Peace
/Gadget



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Re: What- are you serious? And to everyone---
    #14060 - 04/25/00 08:20 AM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Being as sterile as possible is your problem. Trichoderma(common green mold)thrives in enclosed areas. Everytime I've had green mold hit my casings it was in a sealed up terrarium. I started to think about this, so I did a little reading on trich to find out it only surrvives in highly hummid enviroments. Thats when I decided to take the cover off my terrarium. The constant flow of fresh air haulted all trichoderma growth. This is when I decided to start growing outdoors. I've never seen green anything on my casings since.

There is no need to have casings in near 100% hummidity. Actually it does more harm than good. Over hummidified casing tend to have tall skinny mushrooms that twist and bend as they grow. Not to mention the contams that thrive in a overly hummid enviroment. Casings pull most all the moisture they need internally and not from the air. Most people would think exposing they're casing to un-sterile air is asking for contamination. Its actually the exact opposite.

As for retaining moisture with the top off your terrarium, just mist a few pumps when the casing surface looks dry(usually 2-3x a day). Even when your casings look dry, underneath its actually the perfect moisture.

The Lizard,



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Re: What- are you serious? And to everyone---
    #14061 - 04/26/00 05:22 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

I'm far from a casing expert but with what Lizard King said, a cased tray wouldn't need anywhere near 100% or even 90% humidity??

Please correct me if I'm wrong but it's rarely 90% humditiy all day long...maybe if it rains but thats if its all day.

On average, I think it's between 60% and 80% humidtiy around here. I know alot of teks don't get very specific on what the humidity should be. Hmmmmmmmm I think it's time to re-evaluate a few things that I do when it comes to casing:-) Thanks Lizard King!



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Re: What- are you serious? And to everyone---
    #14062 - 04/26/00 05:30 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Lana, in order to get 90 to 100% humidity you need to use some kind of device / tek to get it up. The most popular I would say is perlite + 10:1 hydrogen peroxide:water.


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Re: What- are you serious? And to everyone---
    #14063 - 04/26/00 05:45 PM (23 years, 5 months ago)

Heeheehee...thanks phrozendata but I know the old perlite tek :smile: Been using it for a few years:-) My point was that casings don't need as much humidity as I once thought. I had the impression that casings should be kept around 85-90% humidity. I think (considering the type of substrate you decide to spawn) you wouldn't need that to keep your humidity that high:-)

phrozendata, do you case? If so whats the humidity level you keep your mushrooms at?

Thanks again



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