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Chronic7
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Who do you trust?
#14054288 - 03/02/11 12:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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There's only one thing i trust, and its not even a 'thing'
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054300 - 03/02/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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There are only two people I trust in this world. One is me and the other ain't you.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054302 - 03/02/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Interesting question, that will require thought ^.^
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054319 - 03/02/11 12:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I trust no one at all not even myself I found that trusting people will easily get you in trouble or get your feelings hurt. The reason I can't trust meself is because I've been clean now for 3 years, and I want to visit my family in NC. I know where to get every drug under the sun there and I don't trust myself to go.....>Never trust anyone, because the people you trust are the ones that fuck you
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Chronic7
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Loki570 said: There are only two people I trust in this world. One is me
How can you trust a person (including 'yourself' 'me' 'I' etc) when the person could not even wake up tomorrow?
The only thing you can trust in something that ends is that it will end & lose its identity, everything that doesn't end can only foolishly be trusted in as its nature is to change, you can only trust the changing to change but you can't trust in (find consistency in) a particular aspect of any of it as it all changes.
Im not saying to mistrust creation but to fully trust the real you/Self that is behind it all, as then the creations allowed to fully become what it will become, with no attachment or worry about it AT ALL
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054337 - 03/02/11 12:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Chronic said: There's only one thing i trust, and its not even a 'thing' 
I trust no living being. Or ... I trust that no one can be trusted.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Icelander]
#14054348 - 03/02/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Fear & worry can be annihilated through total Self trust
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I trust no living being. Or ... I trust that no one can be trusted.
Begrudgingly or lightly?
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054361 - 03/02/11 12:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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well you're in the right forum for making such statements.
I trust no one due to experience.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054377 - 03/02/11 12:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The Chronic said:
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Loki570 said: There are only two people I trust in this world. One is me
How can you trust a person (including 'yourself' 'me' 'I' etc) when the person could not even wake up tomorrow?
The only thing you can trust in something that ends is that it will end & lose its identity, everything that doesn't end can only foolishly be trusted in as its nature is to change, you can only trust the changing to change but you can't trust in (find consistency in) a particular aspect of any of it as it all changes.
Im not saying to mistrust creation but to fully trust the real you/Self that is behind it all, as then the creations allowed to fully become what it will become, with no attachment or worry about it AT ALL
I get what you're saying, that was just the first reply that popped into my head. That's the best phrase I like to use when people ask me if I trust them. I do not trust myself so I agree with you on the point because I may not be here tomorrow. I believe nothing of what I hear and even less of what I think. I am merely an ego interacting with other egos and the materialism of me is not actuality, there is more.
To answer your question in actual thoughtfulness and not just the first smart ass thing that popped into my head, I would say I have trust in "it". Much like you said you trust in one thing and it is not even a 'thing', the trust in "it" is undefinable. The best way I could describe it in linguistics is cosmic consciousness. "It" does what it wants so anything that happens was because of "it". So basically, I guess I would say I trust in everything that is, and nothing that is.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Icelander]
#14054388 - 03/02/11 12:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: well you're in the right forum for making such statements.
I trust no one due to experience.
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Loki570 said:
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The Chronic said:
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Loki570 said: There are only two people I trust in this world. One is me
How can you trust a person (including 'yourself' 'me' 'I' etc) when the person could not even wake up tomorrow?
The only thing you can trust in something that ends is that it will end & lose its identity, everything that doesn't end can only foolishly be trusted in as its nature is to change, you can only trust the changing to change but you can't trust in (find consistency in) a particular aspect of any of it as it all changes.
Im not saying to mistrust creation but to fully trust the real you/Self that is behind it all, as then the creations allowed to fully become what it will become, with no attachment or worry about it AT ALL
I get what you're saying, that was just the first reply that popped into my head. That's the best phrase I like to use when people ask me if I trust them. I do not trust myself so I agree with you on the point because I may not be here tomorrow. I believe nothing of what I hear and even less of what I think. I am merely an ego interacting with other egos and the materialism of me is not actuality, there is more.
To answer your question in actual thoughtfulness and not just the first smart ass thing that popped into my head, I would say I have trust in "it". Much like you said you trust in one thing and it is not even a 'thing', the trust in "it" is undefinable. The best way I could describe it in linguistics is cosmic consciousness. "It" does what it wants so anything that happens was because of "it". So basically, I guess I would say I trust in everything that is, and nothing that is.
Yeah i got the vibe you meant it as just a phrase reply, but it gave my mind a chance to release what im feeling right now 
You hit the nail aswell, it's like not trusting thoughts but trusting the you that's behind the thoughts
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Icelander]
#14054428 - 03/02/11 12:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: well you're in the right forum for making such statements.
You have my permission to take apart anything i say in whatever style you like... i post here because i like experiencing existence beyond the limits of the mind, philosophy, psychology, society is all in the mind
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054450 - 03/02/11 12:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well in my experience and observation no one trusts themselves completely in all ways.
I could say right now that I completely trust myself. That's the easy part.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Icelander]
#14054468 - 03/02/11 12:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think that trusting is for beliefs, and things that you are uncertain of.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: teknix]
#14054473 - 03/02/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Chronic would disagree as he claims there is one thing he trusts.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Icelander]
#14054503 - 03/02/11 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Well in my experience and observation no one trusts themselves completely in all ways.
I could say right now that I completely trust myself. That's the easy part.
Yea saying it is the easy because I tell myself I trust myself. It's weird how when you're put in certain social interactions, self-doubt arises. I have very bad bouts of social anxiety even though 99% of the time I am pretty calm and collected. However when I'm in a social environment, my mind starts to overwork itself and that trust in myself dissolves. Damn, my mind is my worst enemy.
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Icelander]
#14054506 - 03/02/11 01:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't trust my body, my thoughts, my feelings, most people would refer to these things as 'me', so i don't trust myself fully in that sense, i only trust whatever is behind/beyond it all fully, but the paradox is its not about mistrusting anything, somehow trusting what's inside/beyond still includes everything without any binding, so its not turning away from life, its fully 'being life' rather than being a particular thing in life.
Life. im feeling a lil crazy this evening
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054541 - 03/02/11 01:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Like there is nothing needing trusting?
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Icelander]
#14054551 - 03/02/11 01:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Chronic would disagree as he claims there is one thing he trusts.
You can't even really trust or believe in emptiness, its completely impossible, you can only be emptiness A belief in emptiness is like the opposite of emptiness, and even the opposite of emptiness is emptiness
The 'trust' is just a graciously embibed thought pattern spiralling down the plughole emptying the mind out
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Re: Who do you trust? [Re: Chronic7]
#14054615 - 03/02/11 01:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just went off of what you said. There's only one thing i trust,
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