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biologys
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How long to leach
#14052129 - 03/01/11 11:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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alright so, normally just use coir, or straw or both..
I decided this time im going to throw some horse manure in the mix and give it a try..
i went to a buddys and got some, spread it out on a tarp and sprayed it down good, how long should i do this, and should i let it completely dry out before resoaking it?
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Re: How long to leach [Re: biologys]
#14053131 - 03/02/11 07:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're supposed to pick up sun dried nuggets from the field, not fresh stuff. The manure should be at least a month or two old and fully dry. Don't leach. RR
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Re: How long to leach [Re: biologys]
#14053149 - 03/02/11 07:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Just bring it back to the house and let it dry on it's designated tarp on it's own. As suggested, don't leech. You'll be leeching beneficial nutrients away with the water. Once the manure is dry, break it, bring it to field capacity, add buffers, and pasteurize.
One point of advise is your going to want to begin to break apart your cow manure while it's wet. Dry cow manure is as hard as a rock and no fun to break apart by hand.
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Re: How long to leach [Re: biologys]
#14053181 - 03/02/11 07:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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The whole leeching idea is intended for horse manure that is collected in stables as it's basically drenched in horse piss and thus has an extremely high ammonia content. Throwing it outside on a pile exposing it to rain and sun to leech and wither will correct this. This is not necessary for nuggets collected in the field.
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German Kahuna said: The whole leeching idea is intended for horse manure that is collected in stables as it's basically drenched in horse piss and thus has an extremely high ammonia content. Throwing it outside on a pile exposing it to rain and sun to leech and wither will correct this. This is not necessary for nuggets collected in the field.
Hey German Kahuna. These are good points you bring up. Also, keep in mind that another purpose for leeching is when buying manure pre-bagged from a store. You don't know where that manure has been so it's best to leech it. As a rule of thumb for me, if the manure smells like ammonia, it get's leeched. Not a problem you'll run into when collecting field-aged nuggets.
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Re: How long to leach [Re: hamloaf]
#14053453 - 03/02/11 09:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If it smells of ammonia, lay it in the sun for a few days, but still don't leach. Especially don't leach composted cow manure from a garden center. Composted manure is already less than optimum. Field aged, but non-composted manure is superior. RR
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RogerRabbit said: If it smells of ammonia, lay it in the sun for a few days, but still don't leach. Especially don't leach composted cow manure from a garden center. Composted manure is already less than optimum. Field aged, but non-composted manure is superior. RR
Right on bro. Thanks once again for the advise. Seems like I'm operating on out-dated information. It's been a long while since I'v felt the need or had to consider leeching manure. All manure I use comes from the field and has been well aged. I like to get cow manure soft and break it up with a shovel though on a tarp in my yard until it dries. Cow manure is as hard as a rock, dry. Burnt out a few cheap weed-eater motors trying to shred it like wheat straw.
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RogerRabbit said: If it smells of ammonia, lay it in the sun for a few days, but still don't leach. Especially don't leach composted cow manure from a garden center. Composted manure is already less than optimum. Field aged, but non-composted manure is superior. RR
Makes sense, yes.
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biologys
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well, he claims it was field aged, but when i went to collect it was moist, which it rained the day before and i just wanted to be on the safe side..thanks guys..
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Re: How long to leach [Re: biologys]
#14053907 - 03/02/11 10:51 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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In the case of the rain the previous day, just lay the manure on a tarp or sheet of what ever mil plastic in your yard and let it sun dry thoroughly and you'll be golden. Begin to break up the manure with a flat-headed shovel while it's wet, reducing the manure to the the proper size needed for mushroom substrate use. Dried cow nuggets are very difficult to break apart.
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Re: How long to leach [Re: hamloaf]
#14053942 - 03/02/11 10:59 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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thank ya sir, appreciate the help as always
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