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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: biff]
    #14051671 - 03/01/11 10:27 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

if I killed a friend of mine I'd just hang myself in my jail cell, save the tax payer money and it's an easy way out for me.

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: biff]
    #14051675 - 03/01/11 10:28 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

It really depends on your state. Some states it is vehicular manslaughter and some states it is second degree murder.

California is up to 15 years and gross vehicular manslaughter while intoxicated. They specify.

Don't drive if you are that intoxicated. Little weed, 1-2 drinks who cares.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: biff]
    #14051676 - 03/01/11 10:28 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14051690 - 03/01/11 10:30 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I had a friend who was thrown forty feet, yes forty feet, in his car while drunk. His head exploded on impact and his guts were blown out when a car ran over his corpse.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14051693 - 03/01/11 10:31 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries




of course drunk drivers die a lot as well. they can hit a pole head on, or have what you mentioned happen to them.

the going limp thing applies to the 'miracles' that occur when the drunk driver doesnt get injured.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14051705 - 03/01/11 10:32 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

blows, we all know someone, hope this opens some of my friends eyes who still drink and drive.

The vehicle looks pretty damn bad, I'll edit the photo and post it in a second, don't want you to see what city it's in :uhoh:

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051755 - 03/01/11 10:42 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14051765 - 03/01/11 10:43 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries




of course drunk drivers die a lot as well. they can hit a pole head on, or have what you mentioned happen to them.

the going limp thing applies to the 'miracles' that occur when the drunk driver doesnt get injured.




Yeah, I can relate to that somewhat. When I was 16 years old I was T boned at an intersection as I was turning left and dude ran the red light. I didn't even see it coming until he hit me, therefore I didn't tense up or brace for impact. I was completely uninjured.

The dude that hit me tensed up and along with getting hit in the face with his airbag, he got pretty banged up.

Also a few years back when I worked at a state park my friend and I were driving on a fire road going back to the dam to smoke some weed. He had his seatbelt off and I had mine on. Well he decided to have fun and try to drift around a 90 degree bend in the road, lost control and hit a tree at about 25mph. He cracked his head on the windshield, bent the steering wheel upwards and actually had to have glass pulled out of his scalp. I saw it coming and had my seatbelt on. Tensed up and initially I was in much better shape than he was (he was a bit dazed and I pulled him from the truck), but because I tensed up I had MUCH greater pain than he did. Fucked my back up about 8 hours later.


So I forced him to give me all of his percocet, because even after a head laceration he was in MUCH better shape than I was.

We both weren't drunk or intoxicated in any way, but even after he broke the windshield with his head, the fact that he didn't tense up and brace for impact like I did, he fared much better than I did.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051785 - 03/01/11 10:46 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

varies from state to state..

felony charges regardless... and if there is property damage on top of that, gets even stickier.

good luck. tell her to get into a rehab stat.

the judge may show some remorse.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14051786 - 03/01/11 10:46 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I used to know a 10 year old girl who was killed by her drunk driving father. Tell me that isnt fucking tragic


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14051832 - 03/01/11 10:52 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

I havent seen the driver in over 3 years, she was kind of trashy then too so it seems like she didn't change her ways.

I've been in 7 car accidents, 5 of them were bad and every time I close my eyes hoping I'll open them again.  Each time I open my eyes back up and think "How the fuck is this number X accident and I'm still uninjured?"








Had I not worn the belt each accident I'd have probably be killed.  Must be lucky.

I am a good driver :lol:, I was never driving during any one of the accidents.

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #14051836 - 03/01/11 10:53 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

why are you posting my pictures?


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14051840 - 03/01/11 10:53 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Its sad how tragic things have to get before some people learn their lesson. I got a DUI 3 years ago, I just went into a ditch in a parking lot doing 15mph (don't ask :facepalm:) but that was all it took for me to wake up and realize that even though I was actually ok to drive that night, I'd been blackout drunk and driven MANY times before that and its just dumb luck that I didn't hurt anyone.

I'm just glad that somehow it worked out that I could learn my lesson without anyone getting hurt. Some people either don't learn, or don't get a second "oops".


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14051957 - 03/01/11 11:07 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Yeah that shit is no joke


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14052017 - 03/01/11 11:16 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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looks like the rescue/FD had to chop off the door to get to a passenger.  I have good luck with entrapments and don't run into many.  The cars typically rip themselves to shreds or I can get in.  A few weeks ago I responded to a rolled car, the fucking engine was maybe 50 feet from the car - the driver had a TINY burn from the airbag and that was it :lol:.  I walked up assuming they'd be dead or seriously hurt, car upside down flames coming from where the engine used to be, suspension 50 feet that way, engine 50 feet the other way.  She was sober and had a seatbelt on.

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this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries




of course drunk drivers die a lot as well. they can hit a pole head on, or have what you mentioned happen to them.

the going limp thing applies to the 'miracles' that occur when the drunk driver doesnt get injured.




Yeah, I can relate to that somewhat. When I was 16 years old I was T boned at an intersection as I was turning left and dude ran the red light. I didn't even see it coming until he hit me, therefore I didn't tense up or brace for impact. I was completely uninjured.

The dude that hit me tensed up and along with getting hit in the face with his airbag, he got pretty banged up.

Also a few years back when I worked at a state park my friend and I were driving on a fire road going back to the dam to smoke some weed. He had his seatbelt off and I had mine on. Well he decided to have fun and try to drift around a 90 degree bend in the road, lost control and hit a tree at about 25mph. He cracked his head on the windshield, bent the steering wheel upwards and actually had to have glass pulled out of his scalp. I saw it coming and had my seatbelt on. Tensed up and initially I was in much better shape than he was (he was a bit dazed and I pulled him from the truck), but because I tensed up I had MUCH greater pain than he did. Fucked my back up about 8 hours later.


So I forced him to give me all of his percocet, because even after a head laceration he was in MUCH better shape than I was.

We both weren't drunk or intoxicated in any way, but even after he broke the windshield with his head, the fact that he didn't tense up and brace for impact like I did, he fared much better than I did.




Weird, my friend driving in the snow lost control at about 60mph and I had plenty of time to tense up when we hit the tree at 50mph.  In fact, I had time to say "this is gonna hurt".  No injuries, in fact I was okay enough to help winch the car off the tree


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14052094 - 03/01/11 11:30 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Well in my defense, I've had chronic back problems since I was 15.

I was ok enough to pull his dazed ass out of the truck and call the local park ranger (who I worked for at the time).

It wasn't until later that night and the next day that I started hurting like a motherfucker.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14052095 - 03/01/11 11:30 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

Its not 100% fullproof. You probably got really lucky. But if something were to really hit you, then i would imagine it wouldve done alot of damage


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14052175 - 03/01/11 11:43 PM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: zergroz]
    #14052301 - 03/02/11 12:14 AM (13 years, 4 days ago)

smelly ass accidents

creepy

i know what they sound like that crunch of the door the smashing glass the immediate smell of the air bags

nasty shit

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14052467 - 03/02/11 12:53 AM (13 years, 4 days ago)

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long story short, girl I knew when I was younger was DUI and killed her 2 friends.  What is she lookin at?  Vehicular manslaughter charges??



Probably reckless manslaughter


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