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Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war
    #1405130 - 03/24/03 07:54 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)


Have you been polled?
yes
no




Votes accepted from (12/31/69 07:00 PM) to (No end specified)
View the results of this poll



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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: grib]
    #1405137 - 03/24/03 07:57 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Polls are done on a small segment of the population, but with any decent poll, a wide variety of races, social groups, and ages are all polled, so that a good perspective can be given. Several thousand people are probably asked. There's no way you can poll everyone, and it's retarded to claim that these polls are inaccurate just because they haven't polled the majority of people. That is impossible, and a completely unrealistic standard to hold the pollsters to.

In all likelyhood, these numbers are fairly accurate.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: Phluck]
    #1405226 - 03/24/03 08:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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retarded to claim that these polls are inaccurate




Maybe it's naive to believe that polling of such a small segment of the population can be accurate? It's truly amazing how some can take so much on faith.



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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: grib]
    #1405245 - 03/24/03 08:35 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Maybe it's naive to believe that polling of such a small segment of the population can be accurate? It's truly amazing how some can take so much on faith.



no, it's naive to think that the majority of the population could be polled.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's wa [Re: grib]
    #1405257 - 03/24/03 08:40 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Polls conducted by mainstream American media are absolutely useless propaganda.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: flow]
    #1405263 - 03/24/03 08:42 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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no, it's naive to think that the majority of the population could be polled.




Since you replied to me I presume that you believe that I suggested that everyone be polled. I did not make such a statement.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: grib]
    #1405266 - 03/24/03 08:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's a wide array of people. Sure it can't be 100% accurate, but if you survey a wide variety of people across the nation you're going to get a good idea of what people think.

The odds that a well conducted poll will be wildly inaccurate are like the odds of winning the lottery.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: Phluck]
    #1405326 - 03/24/03 09:11 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

My god! 74%!!!! :shocked:

I-seriously-hope-not!!! :frown:


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: Phluck]
    #1405360 - 03/24/03 09:24 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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The odds that a well conducted poll will be wildly inaccurate are like the odds of winning the lottery.




I'm not a statistician so I could not agree with nor disagree with your statement. I just prefer verifiable facts.  :cool: 


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: grib]
    #1405376 - 03/24/03 09:27 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I bet that number would be greatly reduced if it was polled in a wide range of people in California. I still have yet to meet a person from my town who supports the war.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's wa [Re: angryshroom]
    #1405448 - 03/24/03 09:52 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I live in Georgia and I know almost no one who does not support the war. So just because those around you don't support it does not mean that these polls are wrong.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: angryshroom]
    #1405471 - 03/24/03 10:02 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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I bet that number would be greatly reduced if it was polled in a wide range of people in California. I still have yet to meet a person from my town who supports the war.



that's only cause most celeb's are against the war.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: Phluck]
    #1405499 - 03/24/03 10:13 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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In all likelyhood, these numbers are fairly accurate.




Either they are or they are not. Things like "in all likelyhood" and "fairly accurate" suggest that they may not be accurate. Yet anyone who says that these polls are inaccurate is retarded?


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I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's war [Re: Phluck]
    #1406382 - 03/24/03 03:45 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

I disagree...

in my second statistics related reply post of the day- I'd like to say that we dont have enough information about how the data was collected to use them to determine how the country feels about the war. The numbers are useless...


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's wa [Re: TheCaptain]
    #1406715 - 03/24/03 06:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)


The numbers were gathered in exactly the same way that all public opinion polls have been run for decades now.

Anyone who says this poll is invalid necessarily concedes that ALL public opinion polls are invalid, because they are all run the same way, by the same three or four polling organizations who use exactly the same methods.

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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's wa [Re: Phred]
    #1406759 - 03/24/03 06:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Which set of statistics are we talking about?
I disagree that all public opinion polls are invalid. Many are, as they rely on convenience sampling. Polls conducted by government organizations through census data are much more accurate, depending on the nature of the questionnaire.


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's wa [Re: TheCaptain]
    #1406781 - 03/24/03 07:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

TheCaptain writes:

Which set of statistics are we talking about?

All of them.

Polls conducted by government organizations through census data are much more accurate, depending on the nature of the questionnaire.

And since there has been no such governmental census poll conducted that has asked any questions regarding approval or disapproval of the war, the point is moot.

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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's wa [Re: Phred]
    #1407669 - 03/25/03 06:30 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Exactly


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Re: Supposedly 74% of the American public supports Bush's wa [Re: Phred]
    #1407705 - 03/25/03 06:40 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

there are a lot of people that are in denial....and it's making my day. :grin:


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