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Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed
    #14051095 - 03/01/11 08:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

long story short, girl I knew when I was younger was DUI and killed her 2 friends.  What is she lookin at?  Vehicular manslaughter charges??


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051110 - 03/01/11 08:57 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know it would be one thing if she wasn't under the influence, they may up the charge due to that.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051148 - 03/01/11 09:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

manslaughter at the least


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #14051170 - 03/01/11 09:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I think there will probably be a legal shit storm coming to the bar that served the driver, turns out she was underage at 20.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #14051185 - 03/01/11 09:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Hakim0777]
    #14051215 - 03/01/11 09:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

why does the shit-stain drunk driver ALWAYS SURVIVE??


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #14051341 - 03/01/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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why does the shit-stain drunk driver ALWAYS SURVIVE??





probably only one that wore a belt, one was thrown from the vehicle and dragged, other was crushed inside.
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so drunk she just went limp possibly too


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051360 - 03/01/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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why does the shit-stain drunk driver ALWAYS SURVIVE??



so drunk she just went limp possibly too




this. when you are drunk to the point that you hit stuff without noticing you dont fight the impact.

fighting the impact is how bones bend in ways they shouldnt and organs get crushed.

its fucked up, but its true. my sister works in an ER and she sees wasted drivers come in all the time with minor cuts/bruises if anything and then the passengers who are nowhere near as drunk get rushed in in stretchers and go immediately to surgery.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051365 - 03/01/11 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I hear its because drunk people dont tense up their bodies. When you tense up your body, your more prone to getting hurt. But even so the aftermath is always graphic and the driver is always like...wtf just happened


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14051381 - 03/01/11 09:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

o yea for sure 2 were killed yet 3 lives are ruined.  Friend #2 who ate it because of an alcohol related incident


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051396 - 03/01/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Drunk driving without seatbelts. Genius.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051401 - 03/01/11 09:47 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

intoxicated manslaughter? Something like that. Shes looking at a lot of years :shrug:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051404 - 03/01/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I really dislike drunk drivers. Thats just flat out irresponsible


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants] * 2
    #14051415 - 03/01/11 09:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hopefully she cant afford a good lawyer


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051420 - 03/01/11 09:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dude I knew in the NA program a little over 2 years ago hit and killed a girl while her mother and her were walking down the road at like 9am. He was drunk and high when it happened.

Well he was sentenced to 8 years with 5 years suspended. Then he started bribing witnesses, which to my knowledge those charges were mostly dropped and lessened.

Long story short, He's still in jail, got about 18 months left. But the family sued and took his house and all of his cars. The house was worth around 200,000 and he had a 69 Camaro worth around 30 grand.

All in all he lost everything, and he should have lost a lot more. He denied up and down he wasn't responsible and it was someone else that hit and killed that 15 year old girl. He used to go on rants about how his brother (who was the passenger) was out to get him and blamed him for something he didn't do.

Sad situation. But if she was in a DUI accident that killed 2 people, she's at least looking for involuntary manslaughter. And then the lawsuits on top of that. It could be a BIG ordeal. Jail time and lawsuits.

Which IMO she deserves. Her actions took the lives of two people.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14051433 - 03/01/11 09:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I really dislike drunk drivers. Thats just flat out irresponsible




yea i used to drive drunk occasionally but then i almost killed myself and 3 friends; and that was a big 'wow' moment in my life. i dont even drink more than 5 drinks if i drink anymore, and thats an 'extreme' night.

i only go for that slight social buzz. no more drunk to the point that im puking, having trouble standing, or being so drunk that i rationalize driving to taco bell as fast as possible so i can get there before it closes.

:facepalm: thats easily one of the most shameful things ive ever done. im so lucky we didnt get in an accident that actually caused damage to my friends or car.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14051450 - 03/01/11 09:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah i realized i was taking it too far when i drove to a friends house on ambien just to tell him i couldnt go to his house that night. Luckily it was at 4 am so no one was on the road. I was on ambien though so i couldnt really tell myself no. I dont even remember what led to me driving i just remember ending up there


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14051600 - 03/01/11 10:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the 2 killed  were passengers in the car btw, dunno if anyone was confused or anything.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #14051640 - 03/01/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Doesn't really matter. At least it wasn't a hit and run like the dude I was talking about. Well I guess that does make a difference.

No matter what legal and litigious situations she may find herself in, she'll always have to live with the reality that she killed her two friends because she chose to drink.

IMO, shit like that would be way worse than jail or lawsuits for me.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH] * 1
    #14051653 - 03/01/11 10:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Right by me a 18 year old kid was driving drunk and killed his three best friends recently. The charges they gave him which I can't think of off the top of my head were like 12 years maximum each. 1 Charge for each dead friend he murdered. Fucking senseless. Far as I'm concerned YOU SHOULD FUCKING KNOW BETTER THAN TO GET INTO A CAR WITH SOMEONE WHO IS FUCKING DRUNK.

Also the 2 21 year olds who had the party and fed the kids booze before they left also came up on serious charges. So shroomery, DON'T BE FEEDING UNDERAGE KIDS BOOZE.

I know it varies a lot from state to state, but they don't fuck around with it anymore. About 15 years ago a family friend was killed riding with a drunk driver and he didn't get shit. Like 16 months or something.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: biff]
    #14051671 - 03/01/11 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if I killed a friend of mine I'd just hang myself in my jail cell, save the tax payer money and it's an easy way out for me.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: biff]
    #14051675 - 03/01/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It really depends on your state. Some states it is vehicular manslaughter and some states it is second degree murder.

California is up to 15 years and gross vehicular manslaughter while intoxicated. They specify.

Don't drive if you are that intoxicated. Little weed, 1-2 drinks who cares.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: biff]
    #14051676 - 03/01/11 10:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14051690 - 03/01/11 10:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I had a friend who was thrown forty feet, yes forty feet, in his car while drunk. His head exploded on impact and his guts were blown out when a car ran over his corpse.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14051693 - 03/01/11 10:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries




of course drunk drivers die a lot as well. they can hit a pole head on, or have what you mentioned happen to them.

the going limp thing applies to the 'miracles' that occur when the drunk driver doesnt get injured.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14051705 - 03/01/11 10:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

blows, we all know someone, hope this opens some of my friends eyes who still drink and drive.

The vehicle looks pretty damn bad, I'll edit the photo and post it in a second, don't want you to see what city it's in :uhoh:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
    #14051765 - 03/01/11 10:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries




of course drunk drivers die a lot as well. they can hit a pole head on, or have what you mentioned happen to them.

the going limp thing applies to the 'miracles' that occur when the drunk driver doesnt get injured.




Yeah, I can relate to that somewhat. When I was 16 years old I was T boned at an intersection as I was turning left and dude ran the red light. I didn't even see it coming until he hit me, therefore I didn't tense up or brace for impact. I was completely uninjured.

The dude that hit me tensed up and along with getting hit in the face with his airbag, he got pretty banged up.

Also a few years back when I worked at a state park my friend and I were driving on a fire road going back to the dam to smoke some weed. He had his seatbelt off and I had mine on. Well he decided to have fun and try to drift around a 90 degree bend in the road, lost control and hit a tree at about 25mph. He cracked his head on the windshield, bent the steering wheel upwards and actually had to have glass pulled out of his scalp. I saw it coming and had my seatbelt on. Tensed up and initially I was in much better shape than he was (he was a bit dazed and I pulled him from the truck), but because I tensed up I had MUCH greater pain than he did. Fucked my back up about 8 hours later.


So I forced him to give me all of his percocet, because even after a head laceration he was in MUCH better shape than I was.

We both weren't drunk or intoxicated in any way, but even after he broke the windshield with his head, the fact that he didn't tense up and brace for impact like I did, he fared much better than I did.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14051785 - 03/01/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

varies from state to state..

felony charges regardless... and if there is property damage on top of that, gets even stickier.

good luck. tell her to get into a rehab stat.

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14051786 - 03/01/11 10:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I used to know a 10 year old girl who was killed by her drunk driving father. Tell me that isnt fucking tragic


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14051832 - 03/01/11 10:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I havent seen the driver in over 3 years, she was kind of trashy then too so it seems like she didn't change her ways.

I've been in 7 car accidents, 5 of them were bad and every time I close my eyes hoping I'll open them again.  Each time I open my eyes back up and think "How the fuck is this number X accident and I'm still uninjured?"








Had I not worn the belt each accident I'd have probably be killed.  Must be lucky.

I am a good driver :lol:, I was never driving during any one of the accidents.


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    #14051836 - 03/01/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14051840 - 03/01/11 10:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Its sad how tragic things have to get before some people learn their lesson. I got a DUI 3 years ago, I just went into a ditch in a parking lot doing 15mph (don't ask :facepalm:) but that was all it took for me to wake up and realize that even though I was actually ok to drive that night, I'd been blackout drunk and driven MANY times before that and its just dumb luck that I didn't hurt anyone.

I'm just glad that somehow it worked out that I could learn my lesson without anyone getting hurt. Some people either don't learn, or don't get a second "oops".


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    #14051957 - 03/01/11 11:07 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah that shit is no joke


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14052017 - 03/01/11 11:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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looks like the rescue/FD had to chop off the door to get to a passenger.  I have good luck with entrapments and don't run into many.  The cars typically rip themselves to shreds or I can get in.  A few weeks ago I responded to a rolled car, the fucking engine was maybe 50 feet from the car - the driver had a TINY burn from the airbag and that was it :lol:.  I walked up assuming they'd be dead or seriously hurt, car upside down flames coming from where the engine used to be, suspension 50 feet that way, engine 50 feet the other way.  She was sober and had a seatbelt on.

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this whole drunk drivers don't tense up thus they don't get hurt thing kinda bugs me.  I've seen drunk drivers die, even when wearing their seatbelt.  One of them was actually the ONLY driver i've seen who was lucky to not be wearing their seatbelt (car rolled into a river and they got ejected halfway out the car).  That guy ended up dead later though.  Tore his subclavian artery along with other injuries




of course drunk drivers die a lot as well. they can hit a pole head on, or have what you mentioned happen to them.

the going limp thing applies to the 'miracles' that occur when the drunk driver doesnt get injured.




Yeah, I can relate to that somewhat. When I was 16 years old I was T boned at an intersection as I was turning left and dude ran the red light. I didn't even see it coming until he hit me, therefore I didn't tense up or brace for impact. I was completely uninjured.

The dude that hit me tensed up and along with getting hit in the face with his airbag, he got pretty banged up.

Also a few years back when I worked at a state park my friend and I were driving on a fire road going back to the dam to smoke some weed. He had his seatbelt off and I had mine on. Well he decided to have fun and try to drift around a 90 degree bend in the road, lost control and hit a tree at about 25mph. He cracked his head on the windshield, bent the steering wheel upwards and actually had to have glass pulled out of his scalp. I saw it coming and had my seatbelt on. Tensed up and initially I was in much better shape than he was (he was a bit dazed and I pulled him from the truck), but because I tensed up I had MUCH greater pain than he did. Fucked my back up about 8 hours later.


So I forced him to give me all of his percocet, because even after a head laceration he was in MUCH better shape than I was.

We both weren't drunk or intoxicated in any way, but even after he broke the windshield with his head, the fact that he didn't tense up and brace for impact like I did, he fared much better than I did.




Weird, my friend driving in the snow lost control at about 60mph and I had plenty of time to tense up when we hit the tree at 50mph.  In fact, I had time to say "this is gonna hurt".  No injuries, in fact I was okay enough to help winch the car off the tree


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14052094 - 03/01/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well in my defense, I've had chronic back problems since I was 15.

I was ok enough to pull his dazed ass out of the truck and call the local park ranger (who I worked for at the time).

It wasn't until later that night and the next day that I started hurting like a motherfucker.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: bbl337]
    #14052095 - 03/01/11 11:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Its not 100% fullproof. You probably got really lucky. But if something were to really hit you, then i would imagine it wouldve done alot of damage


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14052175 - 03/01/11 11:43 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14052301 - 03/02/11 12:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

smelly ass accidents

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14052467 - 03/02/11 12:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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long story short, girl I knew when I was younger was DUI and killed her 2 friends.  What is she lookin at?  Vehicular manslaughter charges??



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    #14052509 - 03/02/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

On the 18th of last month me and a friend left the strip club after having too much to drink and got into a crazy wreck. We hit a 18 wheeler gas tanker going 55-60mph, my seatbelt malfunctioned and the air bags didn't deploy causing me to go threw the windshield. Surprisingly it didn't knock me out, but I cut my superorbital artery, nerves causing me to loose feeling and fractured my orbital bone or whatever. Was rushed to the e.r and had a plastic surgeon put about 120+ stitches in my forehead. People in the ambulance and e.r didn't think I was going to make it. My friend just fractured his wrist on the steering wheel.. His seatbelt caught him. Learned my lesson that night.. He told me to sue his insurance since he's already fucked.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: learningtofly]
    #14052510 - 03/02/11 01:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Had 3 friends, same story.

Driver got 10 years, first offence.

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    #14052555 - 03/02/11 01:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This thread is freaking me out.  A friend of mine was recently completely fucking drunk from going bar hopping.  He called me up at 3:30 AM saying he was driving to my house.  He knew where my place was but he was lost because he was so drunk.  I was on the phone with him, telling him to pull over and tell me where he was--to just stop driving and let me find out where he is.  During this conversation, which was barely coherent on his end, I heard "Oh shit, oh fuck, oh shit, shit shit!!!!" then what sounded like an awful wreck.  The phone went dead.  Mind you this guy drives a shitty old '70s car with no seatbelt and bad brakes, and worst of all has a lead foot.  He's gotten two tickets in two weeks just prior to this.  The last place I knew he was driving while on the phone with me was the highway, and with that lead foot I assumed the worst because I heard several smashes spaced apart--I thought the car had rolled or something.  I was high when this happened BTW.  Turns out he was fine, just hit his car on the walls along side the exit on the highway, kind of bouncing back and forth if you can imagine that.  It scared the shit out of me.  He's so lucky.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: abltsandwich]
    #14052691 - 03/02/11 02:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Now that I am a responsible adult I could NEVER EVER see myself driving intoxicated like that. No matter how fucked up I was, I am still well aware of the consequences.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: withoutawire]
    #14052712 - 03/02/11 03:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

She's looking at a life of guilt.

I could never drive drunk. I actually avoid going to parties cause I don't want to be in a situation where I'll be drunk and want to go home. In the two years I've had my license, I've never driven drunk. In fact, the closest I've ever been to driving drunk was when I had two beers, waited like four hours, and drove home.

I did get into a car with a drunk driver once though :facepalm: Worst part is is that this friend couldn't drive very well in the first place (she tailgates the shit out of people). This was before I had my license. It wasn't that bad cause we were on slow city roads, but it was still nerve wracking. Same friend ran a red light when she was driving my other friends over when she was only hungover.

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14052875 - 03/02/11 04:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A real good friend of mine just lost his son in a DUI auto accident, and he wasn't driving, either. His best friend (the driver) is facing felony manslaughter charges. The wake is tomorrow... R . I . :peace:, Paul Jr. . . . Parents aren't supposed to out live their children...


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: vinsue]
    #14053424 - 03/02/11 09:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

damn, sorry Vinsue.

The worst part is this is a major city... they coulda gotten a taxi :facepalm: Even if you live, you run the risk of being pulled over, that would shatter a lot of my dreams right there.

When I drink I run home, my friends think I'm crazy, the furthest drunk run I did was 5 miles but I'd rather do that than sleep on my friends couch sometimes or get into a car with a drunk.  Plus, me pay a taxi? I have legs that work.  I'm just waiting for the time I black out and wake up in the woods half way home :lol:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14053437 - 03/02/11 09:12 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

that sounds horrible


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14053496 - 03/02/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I think there will probably be a legal shit storm coming to the bar that served the driver, turns out she was underage at 20.




the noel laws as well as the underage shit applies, under the noel laws they
can be sued for allowing the driver to leave in her own vehicle after being
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    #14053499 - 03/02/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

it's actually fun and doesn't take me much longer than my friend who takes the bus to the same area cause she needs to take 2 busses and wait for them and junk.  I just walk outside, turn my ipod on and start running.

$2.60 for her to make it home, free run at 3 AM for me.

The only thing that scares me is I cross the second most dangerous intersection in the USA on those runs at 3 AM lol.  I take my headphones out for that one cause I see drunk drivers every weekend.  Kelly Rippa's sister was actually paralyzed there and all, shit is super sketchy.

:lol: yea that's the only time I sprint during that run is across all 16 lanes of traffic on that run, they set up camera's to catch red light runners but they didnt do shit, it is just a flawed intersection.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14053521 - 03/02/11 09:29 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I used to drive totally fucking schwozzled all the time. I think some people are better at it than others. I never came close to getting into an accident, though I once got pulled over for speeding after a long whisky night. The officer smelled it on my breath and I got in trouble.

I don't drive drunk anymore, not because I think it's particularly dangerous, but because I don't want to get my license revoked or go to jail. :shrug:


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I think there will probably be a legal shit storm coming to the bar that served the driver, turns out she was underage at 20.




the noel laws as well as the underage shit applies, under the noel laws they
can be sued for allowing the driver to leave in her own vehicle after being
intoxicated, that's why bartenders are supposed to cut drunk off




I have NEVER seen a bartender or waiter cut someone off after the estimated amount of drinks it took for that person to be legally too intoxicated to drive.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14058525 - 03/03/11 06:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

My brother got cut off once because he spilled his beer. Funny thing is he hadn't even had a drink yet :lol:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14058536 - 03/03/11 06:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I used to drive totally fucking schwozzled all the time. I think some people are better at it than others. I never came close to getting into an accident, though I once got pulled over for speeding after a long whisky night. The officer smelled it on my breath and I got in trouble.

I don't drive drunk anymore, not because I think it's particularly dangerous, but because I don't want to get my license revoked or go to jail. :shrug:




That's risky man.. risky. especially in the Bay Area.. Bay Area is a fucking nightmare for driving

I'd rate you a 0 if I could :shrug:

I hate drunk drivers, I wish I could beat the fuck out of every drunk driver fucking shithead. They deserve it. I wish every drunk driver was killed in an accident.. they're asking for it. Drunk driving should = life sentence

Somebody come in here and challenge me about drunking driving.. give me an excuse. That's right, there is no fucking excuse unless you get in your car and all of a sudden a bunch of crazy fucks start shooting your car out of nowhere.. Even then, in that impossible situation, you should pull over at your earliest convenience

Even when Im driving, I don't like drunk idiots in my car. I've physically thrown drunk idiots out before, on the side of the road without the slighest hesitation. I don't need the trouble. In a few states, even if the driver isn't drunk but some passengers are, YOU(the driver) can be charged with a DUI.

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #14058567 - 03/03/11 06:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

source for that? That sounds like baloney that you can get a dui for a passenger.

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14058568 - 03/03/11 06:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Dosile Kouki]
    #14058590 - 03/03/11 06:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14058594 - 03/03/11 06:57 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well.. ok. I guess I was wrong about the passenger DUI thing. Coulda sworn drunk passengers could be charged with a DUI


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #14058599 - 03/03/11 07:01 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

na I don't think so BUT what I thought was ridiculous was some guy on "Alaskan State Troopers"(tv show following troopers) got a dui for sitting on a snow mobile drunk.

He was trying to take it, he was so wasted he thought it was his and was trying to put his key in someone else's snow mobile that was a push start :lol:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: AsAboveSoBelow]
    #14058602 - 03/03/11 07:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Well.. ok. I guess I was wrong about the passenger DUI thing. Coulda sworn drunk passengers could be charged with a DUI



I can't exactly remember where I read it at but I think this holds some truth. I think if you let someone drive YOUR car drunk and you are also drunk you can get a DUI.

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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14058719 - 03/03/11 08:15 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

this happend a few times when i was in High-School.. sad :sad:


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    #14059970 - 03/03/11 01:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I used to drive totally fucking schwozzled all the time. I think some people are better at it than others. I never came close to getting into an accident, though I once got pulled over for speeding after a long whisky night. The officer smelled it on my breath and I got in trouble.

I don't drive drunk anymore, not because I think it's particularly dangerous, but because I don't want to get my license revoked or go to jail. :shrug:




That's risky man.. risky. especially in the Bay Area.. Bay Area is a fucking nightmare for driving

I'd rate you a 0 if I could :shrug:

I hate drunk drivers, I wish I could beat the fuck out of every drunk driver fucking shithead. They deserve it. I wish every drunk driver was killed in an accident.. they're asking for it. Drunk driving should = life sentence

Somebody come in here and challenge me about drunking driving.. give me an excuse. That's right, there is no fucking excuse unless you get in your car and all of a sudden a bunch of crazy fucks start shooting your car out of nowhere.. Even then, in that impossible situation, you should pull over at your earliest convenience

Even when Im driving, I don't like drunk idiots in my car. I've physically thrown drunk idiots out before, on the side of the road without the slighest hesitation. I don't need the trouble. In a few states, even if the driver isn't drunk but some passengers are, YOU(the driver) can be charged with a DUI.

:smokeweedallday:







I've driven drunk literally hundreds of times and never came close to an accident. And this was usually in the city.

Some people can drive drunk, other people can't. This is not a popular fact but it is a true one.

I used to be able to drive drunk, then I got in trouble (initially only for speeding, mind you), and the punishment for the second DUI is far harsher than for the first. So I don't drive drunk anymore. Not because I'm worried about accidents but because I'm worried about jail time and four-to-five-digit fines.

Your hatred is stinkier than my breath after a fifth of tequila. Get over it. :stonedjerk:


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I used to drive totally fucking schwozzled all the time. I think some people are better at it than others. I never came close to getting into an accident, though I once got pulled over for speeding after a long whisky night. The officer smelled it on my breath and I got in trouble.

I don't drive drunk anymore, not because I think it's particularly dangerous, but because I don't want to get my license revoked or go to jail. :shrug:




That's risky man.. risky. especially in the Bay Area.. Bay Area is a fucking nightmare for driving

I'd rate you a 0 if I could :shrug:

I hate drunk drivers, I wish I could beat the fuck out of every drunk driver fucking shithead. They deserve it. I wish every drunk driver was killed in an accident.. they're asking for it. Drunk driving should = life sentence

Somebody come in here and challenge me about drunking driving.. give me an excuse. That's right, there is no fucking excuse unless you get in your car and all of a sudden a bunch of crazy fucks start shooting your car out of nowhere.. Even then, in that impossible situation, you should pull over at your earliest convenience

Even when Im driving, I don't like drunk idiots in my car. I've physically thrown drunk idiots out before, on the side of the road without the slighest hesitation. I don't need the trouble. In a few states, even if the driver isn't drunk but some passengers are, YOU(the driver) can be charged with a DUI.

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There's really levels to it. I got a DUI for a 0.088 after passing their sobriety test with flying colors. I really was not even intoxicated due to my tolerance at the time, and I had waited 2 hours to sober up before driving home.  I should get a life sentence? :suckit:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: masterfluffypants]
    #14059985 - 03/03/11 01:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Its not 100% fullproof. You probably got really lucky. But if something were to really hit you, then i would imagine it wouldve done alot of damage




I've had more than one accident like that.  I had a tire blow out on the highway in the rain when going 70.  The car tank slapped and spun me off into you guessed it, another tree at again, about 50mph head on - at least that's the speed the speedometer broke at.  No injuries cept a slight bruise on my forearm.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14059994 - 03/03/11 01:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Some people can drive drunk, other people can't. I know it sounds real macho but it's true.




It sounds egotistical and ignorant, actually. Are your reflexes the exact same drunk as sober? I'm going to say no, they probably aren't.


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    #14060001 - 03/03/11 01:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14060010 - 03/03/11 01:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, that doesn't sound macho at all, just retarded. Alcohol impairs your motor skills, you aren't immune to that.


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    #14060020 - 03/03/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

threads like me want to put a 5 point harness in my daily driver.  I've already considered it since I have to use that stupid trick at the track where you lean your seat back, make your belt lock, then shove yourself into the belt really hard.  5 points are safer and work better for driving fast, but suck in terms of convenience - and most people think you look like a tool :lol:


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Some people can drive drunk, other people can't. I know it sounds real macho but it's true.




It sounds egotistical and ignorant, actually. Are your reflexes the exact same drunk as sober? I'm going to say no, they probably aren't.




Obviously not, but also obviously I understand how to compensate for impaired motor skills while driving. I know my body and my mind.

I'm telling you, you can't argue with my track record, and there are many others like me who are just fine intoxicated behind the wheel, but get in trouble for it anyway because people can't handle their shit. Driving drunk doesn't make you stupid, stupid driving makes you stupid.

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    #14060022 - 03/03/11 01:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:shrug: it doesn't matter, sure you can drive drunk, then when some other idiot who cant drive crashes into you, you get the blame.  Just isn't worth it.


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Some people can drive drunk, other people can't. I know it sounds real macho but it's true.




It sounds egotistical and ignorant, actually. Are your reflexes the exact same drunk as sober? I'm going to say no, they probably aren't.




Obviously not, but also obviously I understand how to compensate for impaired motor skills while driving. I know my body and my mind.

I'm telling you, you can't argue with my track record, and there are many others like me who are just fine intoxicated behind the wheel, but get in trouble for it anyway because so many people can't handle their shit.

You are not going to convince me otherwise.




I'm sure I'm not. So far you don't seem like the kind of person to listen to logic. :shrug:


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Some people can drive drunk, other people can't. I know it sounds real macho but it's true.




It sounds egotistical and ignorant, actually. Are your reflexes the exact same drunk as sober? I'm going to say no, they probably aren't.




Obviously not, but also obviously I understand how to compensate for impaired motor skills while driving. I know my body and my mind.

I'm telling you, you can't argue with my track record, and there are many others like me who are just fine intoxicated behind the wheel, but get in trouble for it anyway because so many people can't handle their shit.

You are not going to convince me otherwise.




I'm sure I'm not. So far you don't seem like the kind of person to listen to logic. :shrug:




I listen to my own experiences before I listen to somebody else's logic, and my experiences have shown me hundreds of drunken drives with nothing close to an accident.

What are you trying to convince me of, anyway? I don't drive drunk anymore because I don't want the legal trouble, so why get your panties in a knot?


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14060058 - 03/03/11 01:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I also drove drunk hundreds of times before I got a DUI. And if I hadn't been caught then, I would have driven drunk hundreds of more times, until eventually either I would have realized it is dangerous to do and quit on my own, wrecked, or got stopped for something else or pull up on a checkpoint.

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    #14060088 - 03/03/11 01:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I also drove drunk hundreds of times before I got a DUI. And if I hadn't been caught then, I would have driven drunk hundreds of more times, until eventually either you realized it is dangerous to do and quit on your own, wreck, or get stopped for something else or pull up on a checkpoint.

Why did you stop doing it?




Because I got a DUI, and the threats of jail time and long-term revocation of my license (standard fare for second offense) are honestly more frightening than anything else. I was speeding when I got caught BTW, not weaving or doing any of the other stupid bullshit people who can't handle their liquor do in the road.

I'm telling you man, some people can do it, other people can't. I've been in one wreck in my life and I was sober for that one (not that it was my fault anyway). The statistics generated by my own life clearly show that intoxication does not increase the risk of car accidents.

Honestly, the statistics used to justify DUI laws are shaky themselves. Sure, a certain percentage of people who get into car wrecks are intoxicated, but what percentage of intoxicated drivers get into car wrecks? The world may never know, now that drunk driving is illegal. Moreover, do those studies control for the undeniable fact that some people hold their liquor better than others?

I'll agree it's stupid to drive drunk, and the law is a good thing because we're better safe than sorry and some people really CAN'T drive drunk. But when people judge me so vitriolically and ignorantly as AsAboveSoBelow did it makes me very :crankey:. We have DUI laws because of legal prudence, but when stupids go so far as to interpret the law to mean that nobody can drive drunk without posing a massive risk to everybody present, a small piece of my libertarian's soul dies in anguish.


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    #14060121 - 03/03/11 01:35 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"what percentage of intoxicated drivers get into car wrecks? The world may never know, now that drunk driving is illegal."


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    #14060147 - 03/03/11 01:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I also drove drunk hundreds of times before I got a DUI. And if I hadn't been caught then, I would have driven drunk hundreds of more times, until eventually either you realized it is dangerous to do and quit on your own, wreck, or get stopped for something else or pull up on a checkpoint.

Why did you stop doing it?




Because I got a DUI, and the threats of jail time and long-term revocation of my license are honestly more frightening than anything else. I was speeding when I got caught BTW, not weaving or doing any of the other stupid bullshit people who can't handle their liquor do in the road.

I'm telling you man, some people can do it, other people can't. I've been in one wreck in my life and I was sober for that one. The statistics generated by my own life clearly show that intoxication does not increase the risk of car accidents.

Honestly, the statistics used to justify DUI laws are shakey themselves. Sure, a certain percentage of people who get into car wrecks are intoxicated, but what percentage of intoxicated drivers get into car wrecks? Moreover, do those studies control for the undeniable fact that some people hold their liquor better than others?

I'll agree it's stupid to drive drunk, and the law is a good thing because we're better safe than sorry and some people really CAN'T drive drunk. But when people judge me so vitriolically and ignorantly as AsAboveSoBelow did it makes me very :crankey:




I understand where you're coming from, but the actual medical facts are that your judgement and reflexes are impaired when you're drunk. Which may not mean that you're GOING to get into an accident, but it CERTAINLY raises the odds of that happening. I drove drunk just fine all the times I did it (apparently, or I wouldn't have woken up in the morning with my car parked outside my house) but you can't guard against something occurring quickly and unexpectedly that requires you to take evasive maneuverers with impaired reflexes. It just isn't possible.

So I'm glad you never got into a wreck or anything as a result of driving intoxicated, but just because you DIDN'T, doesn't mean that you drive perfectly fine intoxicated.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #14060185 - 03/03/11 01:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Again I'm going to say it depends more on the individual person - on their alcohol tolerance, their familiarity with their reflexes and reactions, and their familiarity with the effects of alcohol on those things.

DUI laws are stringent because they would be weak and unenforceable otherwise, but they ARE extremely stringent.

I think we agree on the fundamentals, but people who make sweeping value judgments based on generalizations are stupider than drunk drivers.


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    #14060556 - 03/03/11 02:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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long story short, girl I knew when I was younger was DUI and killed her 2 friends.  What is she lookin at?  Vehicular manslaughter charges??


...  I'm going to a wake tonight, the result of drunk driving . .:sad:  . Parents aren't supposed to out live their children...   . . " Newspaper says the driver is charged with death by auto, and assult by auto...", but no DUI ? :confused: . . That may change . ...  R . I . :peace:, everyone killed by drunk drivers... :cheers: . :beer: . and more tears...


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: vinsue]
    #14062594 - 03/03/11 08:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I actually agree that some people can drive "drunk", mostly experienced drunks. My friend's dad is an alcoholic, drove drunk all the time just fine.
However, the majority of people can't fucking drive in the first place. I saw a 5 car pileup (actually 3 cars, then 10 feet back another 2 cars) today, all could have been prevented if everyone didn't fucking tailgate so much.
Still, even though I consider myself a good driver, I don't think I could ever drive drunk. I'm sure I'd drive just fine buzzed (although I won't), but I know I couldn't drive drunk.

That being said, I drive stoned and have never had any problems with it. Never even had any of the typical problems of stopping at green lights or anything. But weed tends to make people more cautious with driving, and alcohol does the reverse as far as I can tell. Still, I know people who I wouldn't want stoned driving....(But those same people I wouldn't want to ride with anyway).

tl;dr I think about 2% of the population can drive drunk "okay". Not the best, but about as well as the bottom/worst 50% of drivers overall


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    #14062610 - 03/03/11 08:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I actually agree that some people can drive "drunk", mostly experienced drunks. My friend's dad is an alcoholic, drove drunk all the time just fine.
However, the majority of people can't fucking drive in the first place.




I laughed really fucking hard when I saw this. Thank you, thank you so much, for pointing this out. It needed to be said. :rofldrunk:


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    #14065426 - 03/04/11 09:55 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I personally believe that driving hung over is much more risky than driving drunk.


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    #14065545 - 03/04/11 10:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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When I drink I run home, my friends think I'm crazy, the furthest drunk run I did was 5 miles but I'd rather do that than sleep on my friends couch sometimes or get into a car with a drunk.  Plus, me pay a taxi? I have legs that work.  I'm just waiting for the time I black out and wake up in the woods half way home :lol:




Just be careful you don't run through the bad parts of town... my friend decided to do this recently and ended up getting shanked by two gang members; got him in the stomach and narrowly missed puncturing his lungs.  The crazy bastard didn't think he was hurt that bad so he walked the rest of the way to his house and then passed out in the bathtub.  :lol:  Luckily he survived, but all I'm saying is watch yourself or at least make sure you have something to use for self-defense if it comes down to it.  What's even worse is that his girlfriend didn't think to clear his house of drugs before the police/paramedics showed up; at least they didn't charge him for the massive amounts of weed that were lying around.  :facepalm:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #14065572 - 03/04/11 10:38 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Some people can drive drunk, other people can't. I know it sounds real macho but it's true.




It sounds egotistical and ignorant, actually. Are your reflexes the exact same drunk as sober? I'm going to say no, they probably aren't.




Obviously not, but also obviously I understand how to compensate for impaired motor skills while driving. I know my body and my mind.

I'm telling you, you can't argue with my track record, and there are many others like me who are just fine intoxicated behind the wheel, but get in trouble for it anyway because people can't handle their shit. Driving drunk doesn't make you stupid, stupid driving makes you stupid.

You are not going to convince me otherwise.




Agreed.  I've driven drunk many times and have never blown a red light, gone past the speed limit, made an illegal turn, or violated a traffic rule or regulation.  Granted, I might have had problems if something unexpected had happened like another car veering into my own lane or a child jumping into traffic given my slower inebriated reflexes, but I've never understood the idiots who get shit-faced and then treat the road like it's their own private raceway.

I don't drive drunk anymore because of the very fact that something unexpected might happen, but just had to put in my :2cents:.  Some people can handle their shit driving while drunk; others can't.  The trouble is that those in the latter category usually think they're in the former.  :sad:


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14066706 - 03/04/11 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I personally believe that driving hung over is much more risky than driving drunk.




You might actually be onto something here. Everything's so bright, your hands are shakey, you're nervous and jumpy... almost like it would be safer to drive with a beer or two in you. :wink:


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    #14066858 - 03/04/11 03:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I personally believe that driving hung over is much more risky than driving drunk.




well yea after passing out and waking up your generally pretty tired in a hypnotic state so to speak


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    #14067615 - 03/04/11 06:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

One of my old neighbors is in prison for this. I heard he got 4 years, not sure what the charges against him were I heard about it several months after he was convicted.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: PreparationH]
    #14067630 - 03/04/11 06:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man, if I was drunk and killed 2 friends while driving I'm not sure I'd ever forgive myself for that. Must be a terrible, unreal feeling.


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    #14068569 - 03/04/11 10:02 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I personally believe that driving hung over is much more risky than driving drunk.




You might actually be onto something here. Everything's so bright, your hands are shakey, you're nervous and jumpy... almost like it would be safer to drive with a beer or two in you. :wink:




It's pretty much like the reaction problems that drinking causes, plus a raging headache, barely able to keep your eyes open, huge mental fog and a lot of other nasty things.

I'd personally rather have someone drive drunk than hungover the next morning any day of the week.

I know some mornings when I woke up after barely any sleep, splitting headache and etc etc that I turned right around and went back to my friends house to catch a few more hours of ZzZz. Hell one time I was locked out at 8am and had to catch a cat nap in my truck outside my friends house because she lost his phone and I locked her door behind me.

Plus, if you drank a LOT the night before, your BAC could still be above the legal limit come morning time. I remember a few months ago a State Trooper got a DUI at 10am because he drank too much the night before, tried to sleep it off at a friends house, but had to go home in the morning.

I'd honestly rather drive home drunk and alert than hungover and completely unaware of my surroundings the next morning.

But I don't drink any more, so it's not much of a problem.


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Re: Legal question, DUI, 2 people killed [Re: WakeboardrB]
    #14068585 - 03/04/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've always wondered what would happen if you had a seizure driving... recently I asked a doctor that question and he said they take your license away if you have epilepsy. :lol:


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    #14068613 - 03/04/11 10:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

If I close my eyes and let the quick, irregular flashes of light from the sun flickering through the trees as I drive by flash across my eyelids, I have tiny, mini-seizures. :shrug: Its only for like a fifth of a second, but my body jerks rigid and I black out.

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    #14068639 - 03/04/11 10:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

A few years ago a guy had a seizure and slammed into the back of my gf's car and kept pushing and pushing (cause his foot was slammed on the gas pedal). He must have pushed her 150 ft with her brakes locked up.

It happens. But if you are prone to seizures and are on proper medication to control or eliminate them, I see no reason for someone like that to not be allowed to drive.

It's like not allowing someone who is Bipolar to drive because there might be a chance that they'll go manic and go 150mph down the freeway.

Or someone with heat disease. They could have a heart attack, lose control of the car and plow into a bus full of nuns.


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    #14068655 - 03/04/11 10:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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If I close my eyes and let the quick, irregular flashes of light from the sun flickering through the trees as I drive by flash across my eyelids, I have tiny, mini-seizures. :shrug: Its only for like a fifth of a second, but my body jerks rigid and I black out.

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I know the feeling. Except for the reaction. One of the roads I drive home to frequently is through a state park and ever since Fall and all the leaves dropped, it's like a constant intense flicker of sunlight for 10 miles. Shit gives me a headache.


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    #14068661 - 03/04/11 10:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah it doesn't worry me because it only happens if I close my eyes and let it flicker across my eyelids. Its trippy as shit to do when I'm a passenger though. :lol:


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If I close my eyes and let the quick, irregular flashes of light from the sun flickering through the trees as I drive by flash across my eyelids, I have tiny, mini-seizures. :shrug: Its only for like a fifth of a second, but my body jerks rigid and I black out.

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    #14068843 - 03/04/11 10:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah it doesn't worry me because it only happens if I close my eyes and let it flicker across my eyelids. Its trippy as shit to do when I'm a passenger though. :lol:




The past couple of days it has really bothered me. It's always around 5:30, trees are bare of leaves and man it's like a strobe light.


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    #14069123 - 03/05/11 12:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I really dislike drunk drivers. Thats just flat out irresponsible




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    #14104171 - 03/11/11 02:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the families of the dead aren't pressing charges, she's only getting a DUI.  I would say that is good for us tax payers because prison wasn't going to change anything.


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