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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
#14051164 - 03/01/11 09:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's not that. I have a short attention span. Anything over two paragraphs and I forget why I was reading it.
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin] 1
#14051239 - 03/01/11 09:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
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This is where the Fate and Free Will argument comes into play. Fate would tell us that because the nature of the universe is to to expand in a state of perpetual self-maintaining existence, that all within the universe would continue to exist so long as they expanded (progressed) in a state of perpetual (always progressing) self-maintaining (using your progression...) existence (...to exist). In other words, it our UNIVERSAL NATURE, OUR INNER GODLINESS to progress.
Free Will would state that we can consciously choose both to progress initially (evolve) and that at any time we can also choose to manipulate (regress/control).
I think both good and evil evolved, so I don't think we're approaching a point in which the subjective world of a whole society is challenged by a choice between them. Progress and evil go hand in hand. I think it's all fate and no free will.
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
#14055528 - 03/02/11 04:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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WHICH IS THE MOST POWERFUL FORCE? GOOD (progression) or EVIL (literal self-destruction).
Good and Evil are equal, IMO Evil destroys progression and Good rebuilds what evil destroys. Over and over again it seems. "Yin and Yang"
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
#14056377 - 03/02/11 06:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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I agree with most of what you said apart from the good and evil part, as that is purely subjective.
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
#14056520 - 03/02/11 07:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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If it is marked 'end times' then it would be destruction.
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: giza]
#14056529 - 03/02/11 07:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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But if it's the end times of a way of thinking, then it may be rebuilding.
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: giza]
#14056568 - 03/02/11 07:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Like if there is a 'messiah' then I would think he would bring morals to govern the world, which would be the destruction of some and the rebirth of others.
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
#14057203 - 03/02/11 09:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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"We have to make a choice between Good and Evil".
I didn't read anything but this last bit of your last post. Does this sum up how you feel? If so, why do you think we have to make a choice? Why can't I both create and destroy?
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
#14057345 - 03/02/11 10:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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What end times?
I mean, we all have personal end times...
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Re: God defined; Interpretation on The Garden Of Eden [Re: Calvin]
#14057480 - 03/02/11 10:36 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, so I read it, and while I see why you personally think it is necessary, it doesn't really follow IMO. Unless we are in control of evolution, which is highly unlikely, there is no reason we should be in control of what happens to our species over the long haul. If we are annihilated, that's still progress in terms of evolution.
Do you think the dodo bird was bent on destruction and manipulation more so than the cockatoo?
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#14058278 - 03/03/11 02:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Kickle said: Do you think the dodo bird was bent on destruction and manipulation more so than the cockatoo?
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