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    #14049567 - 03/01/11 04:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

ok so..  as i start posting here you will notice i may have ways of doing things that are a bit unconventional.  i enjoy experimenting and figuring things out for myself really..  this is a result of that.  i dont really believe this has to be really hard or complicated and i may have stumbled upon a ridiculously easy way to do spawn and test jars..
 
i was sitting here one day and i remembered i had a LC i started and i was like "oh shit!"  and i really wanted to test it on something however i had no vermiculite for a test jar..  i had brf and i was thinking of things like cardboard or balsa wood and many things..  then it hit me i could use frozen microwavable organic brown rice.. i knew alot of people would have a beef with this because its "too easy"  or whatever and ive seen many threads closed along the topic of using whole rice after searching this forum.  so i didnt even bother asking and i just did it..
heres the rice i used..

this is the pack it comes in..  cook for 3 min on high and it steams the shit out of it..


i cooked it and stuck it in a unsterilized 1/2 pint and put on a plastic cap and cooked it again for 1 1/2 more minutes to steam the whole shebang..  making sure not to burn the rice..

so about a week later it was fully colonized..  and im sitting there lookin at it like "ok now what?"  so...  i thought id take this experiment to the next level and pasteurize me some poopie..  so i grabbed a ziplock and broke down the shit inside the bag..  the bag was like 1 1/2" thick full of poop laid out on the counter..  i then added some gypsum..  idk how much i just crushed some drywall and added a little maybe like 1/4 cup or so..  i then hydrated to field capacity and double bagged the mofo..  making sure to squeeze as much air out as i could, threw it in a mini mate cooler and added some hot boiling water (again from the microwave) into the cooler weighing the bag down with rocks..  the bag blew up pretty quick so i let the air out and re submerged the thing and let it sit for 2 hours..  when i took it out the shit itself was still at 130'F..  i took it out and let it sit for about 8 hours..  when i woke up the next morning i threw the cake inside the bag and mixed it all up inside the bag which was pretty full at that point..  i then used a 2 liter bottle cut in half as a funnel (fits perfect) and put the whole mix inside a one gallon water jug..  heres the pictorial.....

the poop


the stuff..  poo broken up in the bag with drywall..


in teh cooler..  i actually used alot more rocks than this..


pasturized for a couple hours..


my microwave cake!!


inside the bag


mixed it..


just spawned..


coffee filter cap


about 36 hours later!!  woo! ITS ALIVE!!


this is where im at so far..  i totally hope this works and is the birth of WOW'S S.L.A.M.  TEK..  (stupid lazy ass mofo tek)  i shall return with updates as time progresses.. 

TODAY 12 days 22hrs later...  it has pins!!  :awesomenod:

17 days later!!  my first shroom harvested!!

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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14049912 - 03/01/11 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The fact that you have growth is very promising.

What is a "microwave cake"?


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    #14050048 - 03/01/11 05:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: bbt0009]
    #14050103 - 03/01/11 06:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The sterilization process makes me wonder. Are you sure this is legit mycelium growth and not some kind of contaminate? Interesting process regardless -- especially the way you pasteurized the poo. Curious to see how this goes.


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: Cynosure]
    #14050114 - 03/01/11 06:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The fact that you have growth is very promising.

What is a "microwave cake"?





i made it with that microwavable rice..  just put it in the microwave on a paper plate in its steamer bag and nuke it for 3 minutes and it blows up with steam for a couple minutes..  then i put it in a clean non sterile jar and nuked it again for like another minute anda half to steam the jar out..  use a PLASTIC LID in the microwave!!  it colonized super fast and healthy!!


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: modok]
    #14050223 - 03/01/11 06:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i have another LC to test this on also..  i will probably knock it up tonight or tomorrow..
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The sterilization process makes me wonder. Are you sure this is legit mycelium growth and not some kind of contaminate? Interesting process regardless -- especially the way you pasteurized the poo. Curious to see how this goes.





lol it is indeed healthy mycelium!!  its nice, fluffy, rhizomorphic,  and smells nice and mushroomy!  keep in mind this rice is already semi-pre-cooked and it is steamed hard in the bag in the MW..  i have another new LC im gonna try this on as well..  ill probably do it within the next couple days..  im surprised it worked so well and the sub is colonizing super fast..  its been less than 3 days and its already kicked out from the sub and started colonizing pretty good..  i wasnt gonna post till i finished but i figure what the hell..  if this works..  ANYBODY can grow shrooms!  when it comes down to it,  its just some shit in a bottle!


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14050631 - 03/01/11 07:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Less really is more.


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: ChronicSmoke]
    #14051715 - 03/01/11 10:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #14064479 - 03/04/11 02:39 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

today!!!:grin:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14064826 - 03/04/11 06:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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today!!!:grin:






What are all those little white specks throughout the manure? :justdontknow:

You'd be surprised at what you can get away with. Some people have gotten away with not pasteurizing their manure at all. :shrug:

The thing I'd be concerned about is that your rice cake thing was not fully colonized at the time of spawning. Exposed uncolonized grain is an open invitiation for trich, mos' def, mang. :whatwhat: Other than that, looks good. :wink:

Out of all the things done 'wrong' you could say - although it's an experiment, so I'm not suggesting any wrongdoing is actually occurring - you still pasteurized the substrate, and that's immensely beneficial. If the spawn is reasonably clean, and the manure was basically pasteurized in the appropriate temperature window, it'll probably work out! :super:


Don't fear the fae, man. Keep that in mind. Fuck, feel free to manually fan once a day DURING COLONIZATION. You don't have any sort of passive air/gas exchange system I can see, so yeah, fan away, and peek as often as you want. You'll only be helping speed the colonization process, and DECREASING odds of contamination. :awesomenod:


:grin:,




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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14064909 - 03/04/11 07:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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today!!!:grin:





That's contaminated with yeast.
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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14064934 - 03/04/11 07:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: faceyneck]
    #14068423 - 03/04/11 09:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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today!!!:grin:






What are all those little white specks throughout the manure? :justdontknow:

You'd be surprised at what you can get away with. Some people have gotten away with not pasteurizing their manure at all. :shrug:

The thing I'd be concerned about is that your rice cake thing was not fully colonized at the time of spawning. Exposed uncolonized grain is an open invitiation for trich, mos' def, mang. :whatwhat: Other than that, looks good. :wink:

Out of all the things done 'wrong' you could say - although it's an experiment, so I'm not suggesting any wrongdoing is actually occurring - you still pasteurized the substrate, and that's immensely beneficial. If the spawn is reasonably clean, and the manure was basically pasteurized in the appropriate temperature window, it'll probably work out! :super:


Don't fear the fae, man. Keep that in mind. Fuck, feel free to manually fan once a day DURING COLONIZATION. You don't have any sort of passive air/gas exchange system I can see, so yeah, fan away, and peek as often as you want. You'll only be helping speed the colonization process, and DECREASING odds of contamination. :awesomenod:


:grin:,




:aweneck:




i didnt break up the drywall enough and thats the specks lol..  and the cake was colonized fully..  well the part i used at least...  the top most part kinda dryed out and i scraped it off..  i assure you its drywall tho :grin:  should i just take the cap off?!  i was planning on just melting alot of 1/2 inch holes all around the thing when i fruit it..  ill start givin it more fae for sure tho!  thanks for the advice mang :thumbup:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14068425 - 03/04/11 09:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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today!!!:grin:





That's contaminated with yeast.
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its drywall!!:thumbup: 


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14069761 - 03/05/11 06:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Dude, this is not fully colonized:



There are obviously visible pieces of grain without any culture on them. :shrug:

It might still work, though.

You should not simply take off the lid, no. Fan it once or twice a day, should be adequate as it's such a small substrate. Yeah, go ahead and burn some holes in it for fae when the fruiting time comes. :super:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: faceyneck]
    #14069994 - 03/05/11 08:46 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

will do!  thanks! :thumbup:  i see where your talking about now that i look tho..  :rolleyes:  im a noob..  plus the jar was kinda hard to see thru..  im gonna make sure to wait till the sub is fully colonized for sure..  i fanned it a bit tho..  im gonna put tin foil tape on the bottom too when its ready..  its looking good this morning!!  ill update when i think its ready to fruit so i get the timing right..  :mushroom2:


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    #14070293 - 03/05/11 10:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

pretty cool mayne. i got respect for people who experiment and figure out their own way of doing things rather thanjust going along with everyone else


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: Apu]
    #14074654 - 03/06/11 08:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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pretty cool mayne. i got respect for people who experiment and figure out their own way of doing things rather thanjust going along with everyone else



thanks mayne!  lol check it!  4 days and 15 hours later....


this things growing like crazy!  i think within the next few hours it will be ready to show some FAE ya think?  ill post up another pic before i do..


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14076071 - 03/06/11 03:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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i think within the next few hours it will be ready to show some FAE ya think?




I don't know what that means. :shrug:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #14076127 - 03/06/11 03:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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today!!!:grin:





That's contaminated with yeast.
RR




Awee, I was rooting for the OP.


On another note, I've grown on whole brown rice without verm or anything.  I fruited the rice cakes in 2 liter soda bottles.  Cost me like 20$, and I got a decent trip from eating the mushrooms.  I eventually ate the cakes, and got an even better trip than eating the mushrooms.

Obviously there are muuuch better ways to do this, and it was really hard to get the moisture content right with just a couple jars and a microwave.  I only got 2 trips for 20$, which is extremely inefficient.  Could have just bought some mushrooms instead.  But it was fun.


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    #14076272 - 03/06/11 04:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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today!!!:grin:





That's contaminated with yeast.
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Awee, I was rooting for the OP.


On another note, I've grown on whole brown rice without verm or anything.  I fruited the rice cakes in 2 liter soda bottles.  Cost me like 20$, and I got a decent trip from eating the mushrooms.  I eventually ate the cakes, and got an even better trip than eating the mushrooms.

Obviously there are muuuch better ways to do this, and it was really hard to get the moisture content right with just a couple jars and a microwave.  I only got 2 trips for 20$, which is extremely inefficient.  Could have just bought some mushrooms instead.  But it was fun.




OP is gonna fruit that mofo tonight!!  LOL! i think he mistook the drywall i added for yeast..  i have had jars with yeast and i know what it is..  also..  i have a jar right now that ATE the yeast!  really they are both just fungus..  whichever organism beats the other is which survives..  i dont think they can both coexist..  one will dominate the sub more than the other killing the weaker off..  I MAY STAND CORRECTED  but im gonna put it to the test soon anyways..  this shows no sign of yeast..  smells good..  its healthy as of now..  its growing freakin hard too!  it will be fully colonized by tonight im sure..  i can see the bottom of the sub also and its fully done theres just one little spot thats higher than the rest thats takin a little longer to colonize but its getting there fast..also how did you spend 20$?  mine was FREE!  i had the rice hangin in the freezer..  the shit was from one of the biggest free shitpiles ever..  and the jug again was free too!  and the LC i used FREE FREE FREE!!  the key with the whole BR is to slightly overcook it and let it steam dry a bit with the bag open..  then load it in the jar and cook it again for a minute..  it worked a charm as you can see!:grin:


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I don't know what that means. :shrug:



well..  i have let the thing get alot more fresh air and it seriously TOOK OFF!  thanks for that advice!  im gonna soon put some series of holes around the jug and cover the bottom with some tinfoil tape to induce pinning..  ill post up some pics before i do so i know its ready and you guys can help me decide when to do it..  actually..  heres a pic of it now..  should i go ahead and cut the holes?  at this rate it will definately consume all the surface in a few hours..  what cha think?


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14076486 - 03/06/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, giving the mycelium fresh air makes a HUGE difference in speed! :super:

Actually, my guess is that it'll probably be about 2 days before all of the surface is covered in mycelium. At that point, you can go ahead and begin fruiting. If you give it the amount of fresh air that you would ideally for fruiting - as much as you can without dipping the humidity below 90% - there's a good chance the areas of :poop: that aren't colonized yet may dry out, and then they're unlikely to colonize fully as fast as we would like, if even before fruiting begins.

If you want, you can even wait a few days past full colonization, which should help you get a bigger flush. It does for me. The general thinking I've read by experts on why this helps is that the mycelium sort of 'loads' itself up with nutrients and water for the formation of fruitbodies. It's not like you NEED to do this, but it'll help. It does for me, at least. :shrug:

So, yeah, in short, I'd give it about 2 more days... just until all the :glittershitz: you can see is covered with mycelium, like this:



That substrate is of course pinning, but you can see what I mean about fully colonized. :wink:


I'm rootin' for ya, dude! :goodluck:

Always interested in seeing experimentation. That's how we find new ways to do things. In fact, I'd recommend you try doing this a few more times - waiting until your spawn is fully colonized though next time! :lol: - to make sure this isn't just a really lucky instance, which I don't think is the case. I think you're onto something. And, you may have just stumbled onto a REALLY easy way for :noob:s to do bulk without a PC, or vermiculite even! :woot:

Good work, wow. If I haven't already, +5 :dancingshroom:s for you, man. :billymaythumbup:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14076547 - 03/06/11 04:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: faceyneck]
    #14076582 - 03/06/11 05:05 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah, giving the mycelium fresh air makes a HUGE difference in speed! :super:

Actually, my guess is that it'll probably be about 2 days before all of the surface is covered in mycelium. At that point, you can go ahead and begin fruiting. If you give it the amount of fresh air that you would ideally for fruiting - as much as you can without dipping the humidity below 90% - there's a good chance the areas of :poop: that aren't colonized yet may dry out, and then they're unlikely to colonize fully as fast as we would like, if even before fruiting begins.

If you want, you can even wait a few days past full colonization, which should help you get a bigger flush. It does for me. The general thinking I've read by experts on why this helps is that the mycelium sort of 'loads' itself up with nutrients and water for the formation of fruitbodies. It's not like you NEED to do this, but it'll help. It does for me, at least. :shrug:

So, yeah, in short, I'd give it about 2 more days... just until all the :glittershitz: you can see is covered with mycelium, like this:



That substrate is of course pinning, but you can see what I mean about fully colonized. :wink:


I'm rootin' for ya, dude! :goodluck:

Always interested in seeing experimentation. That's how we find new ways to do things. In fact, I'd recommend you try doing this a few more times - waiting until your spawn is fully colonized though next time! :lol: - to make sure this isn't just a really lucky instance, which I don't think is the case. I think you're onto something. And, you may have just stumbled onto a REALLY easy way for :noob:s to do bulk without a PC, or vermiculite even! :woot:

Good work, wow. If I haven't already, +5 :dancingshroom:s for you, man. :billymaythumbup:





hey thanks man!  i gave you shrooms already :pimp2:  i consider you and PP the real pros around here.. :rockon:  ill follow that lead!  i am going to do this again!  i was thinkin of knockin another rice jar tonight actually..  i definately see what you mean.. that sub looks totaly like its ready to pop off..  i took the cap off and just loosly stuck the coffee filter in there and i fan it a couple times a day..  its got plenty humidity in there for sure tho! id like it to do decent so ill wait :thumbup: thanks for checkin my thread mayne! i cant wait this week im gonna spawn my first mono!  ill be showin it off as well and ill be sure to use jars that are fully colonized :rolleyes:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: wow]
    #14076595 - 03/06/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:popcorn:


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: Synocybin]
    #14076596 - 03/06/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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is this???

i made a minitub of the SS last night and doing another for a friend tonight.



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    #14078281 - 03/06/11 09:52 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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what cha think?






is this???

i made a minitub of the SS last night and doing another for a friend tonight.



INDEED!  IT IS YOUR SS!!  thank you man!!:mushroom2::cool:





i put together 2.5 quarts, 1.5 coir: 1 WBS in a 5.5qt latch top box and another with similar contents in a 7.2qt latch box..

i cant wait to see how fast it goes and i'm ready for more nice fruits and a couple clones for better genetics...

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    #14080312 - 03/07/11 10:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

will do!  i just got my block of coir yesterday!  im gonna spawn 2 qts to half a block coir and an equal amount poop soon as well!  id like to add some verm to the mix but well see if i find a bag the right size and price in the next week or so..  i got my agar all ready for a clone too!  cant wait to see fruits!  theres gonna be a print givaway soon! :thumbup:


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    #14080694 - 03/07/11 12:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14081779 - 03/07/11 03:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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theres gonna be a print givaway soon! :thumbup:




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    #14086672 - 03/08/11 01:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Looks kinda funky to me.  Maybe it's just your lighting or something though.


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    #14087641 - 03/08/11 04:29 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i cant wait to fruit this thing..  :dizope:  is it ready yet?! im thinkin one more day actually..  the one spot is just a little higher than the rest..  but the whole sub other than that spot is completely covered..  even on the bottom..  it looks like it might even be knotting in some places cause its kinda thicker in a few areas see..

heres the little spot in the middle

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    #14087655 - 03/08/11 04:31 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

that just doesn't look like healthy myc at all to me...:shrug:


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    #14087729 - 03/08/11 04:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

then what does it look like ?  mold?:crazy2:  i think the lightings jacked up cuz the flash is outside the jug and the lens is inside the mouth of the jug...  i sure hope its healthy!!  is it not rhizomorphic?  sure looks fluffy and ropey..  and has no real smell.. when i popped the cake up to see if it would help the bottom colonize it smelled nice and shroomy like shrooms..  and it colonized the thing pretty nice..  were sure gonna find out soon enough if its healthy myc or not.. :super:


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    #14087738 - 03/08/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, it looks really transparent.  It just doesn't look white and healthy.


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    #14087743 - 03/08/11 04:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

no its deff rhizo

just the color is off, i myself have never seen mushroom mycelium look quiet like that, colorwise..


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    #14088591 - 03/08/11 07:37 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I don't see why you guys think it looks off, or "unhealthy." :shrug:

I've seen LOTS of mycelium, on many different substrates, of many different strains. I'd say it looks quite alright to me, wow. :super:


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    #14090696 - 03/09/11 02:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

your the man facey!  thanks for takin the time to help a noob like myself!:thumbup:  the little spot is "grabbed"  by the myc now..  should only be a bit longer!  idk if i can wait much longer!! :wow: the sub is definitely fully ready right now i feel..  as soon as that spot is colonized i think im gonna have to fruit it..  i was gonna cut the top off for a better pic because the flash gets jacked thru the plastic..  but i decided not to..  i dont care for a better pic at this point plus id need to tape the top back on which will block the light..  i went ahead and foil taped the bottom so it wouldn't side pin...  should i even care if it side pins?  more pins better right?  ill rip the tape off if it will make it fruit better..


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    #14090708 - 03/09/11 02:21 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

also..  ive decided on doing this again directly following this grow..  im doing another grow soon with a few different styles..  i started a thread earlier on the subject:thumbup:..  i think im going to make a few jars of whole rice and g2g them with a few kernels of spawn of each kind i have..  id really be stoked to prove this microwave method again! im thinkin next time ill try and fruit the cake!  and try different subs and containers possibly..  i guess im gonna need to buy some verm soon..  id like to experiment with traditional pf cakes in the microwave as well..  idk why but i seem to be drawn to the microwave!  its calling me to create a easier way to do a small cake style grow! :rockon:


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    #14119845 - 03/14/11 03:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

awe shit..  i guess i was growing green mold the whole time !!  it just turned green shriveled up and died! :shrug:


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    #14120173 - 03/14/11 04:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol: SIKE!

its got its first pins and alot of knots and primordia goin on!  :awedance::pimp::dancer:




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    #14124981 - 03/15/11 01:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

should i be misting this thing?  maybe the sides?  its not dry..  if i stick my finger in the hole :naughty: i can feel the humidity..  im gauging it by if i think it looks field capacity..  im sure if i took it out and squeezed it i could make it drip..  and it looks fine.. and i have moaar pins today.. :homerdrool: 

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    #14125077 - 03/15/11 02:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

im really sure it wouldnt hurt you at all to give it a quick 1 2 3 mist and then fan it for a minute, and then leave it.

i find that id you do that at this stage you could induce a nice flush due to the evaporation you cause with the light mist and the good fanning.

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    #14125896 - 03/15/11 04:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

eh..  i was going to..  then you said that..  so i sprayed it a few pumps and put it in front of a fan..  lol(not directly in front but good enough:tongue:)


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    #14126393 - 03/15/11 06:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14134410 - 03/16/11 11:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey synocybin! :hi: just wait till the next pic!  also i have a 20 gal monotub of the SS i just spawned today along with 2 others!!:pimp2:


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    #14137182 - 03/17/11 02:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

moaar piiinss:awedance:


here we go again!!  this is just for the proof..  after the second success doing this im writing a tek..  i wanna make sure you know it works..  i inoculated this yesterday with a slip of crs agar..:lol:


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    #14137254 - 03/17/11 03:10 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

the pf tek is the 'original' method for a reason. not trying to rain on your parade but what you've done has been done before with varied results...which is why the PF tek is king; its reliable and almost hard to mess up.

I swear by the PF tek because its A) reliable, B) easy and C) open to a LOT of interpretation (like what youre doing)...its easy to do but leaves a LOT of room to experiment.

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    #14143873 - 03/18/11 03:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i know i know...  i probably wont be able to kill it persay..  but i believe this method is capable of more fruits potentially and using poop without even having to use a STOVE!  ALTHOUGH i just realized i havent tried this method using spores yet..  its really easy, a monkey could do this..  and it only requires 2 ingredients...  rice and poop!  thanks for checkin in!  im just tryin to share what i have done and like you said i hope people enjoy reading my log of this project!:super:  check it!  im pretty stoked how these things are lookin!  synocybin!!  these have a beautiful color man!!  heres a pics i took just now!

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think i could do this with normal brown rice, instead of the frozen stuff?


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    #14144108 - 03/18/11 04:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

im yet to try....  but i would think you could...  this rice is GREAT tho..  if you wanna give it a shot id cook the rice like normal then let it kinda steam dry and cool down till the moisture is more inside the rice,  let it kinda steam out till it cools..  then load the jar and use a PLASTIC lid of some sort..  i have a hole in the top of the lid for the steam to escape..  then nuke it till the moisture is right..  when you take it out be carefull of the steam coming outta the lid cuz i burnt myself on it last time..  it works..  i only nuke mine for less than 2 min..  and i have had no contams yet in these 2 attempts..  i wouldnt rely on it as my sole grow...  but its worth a try if you have patience and some culture to play with..  btw..  the key is to get the outside of the rice kinda leathery and drier than the inside..  look at the pic above to see what i mean..  if its too soft and moist on the outside it will probably contam or slow growth..  thats what the microwave does..  kinda hardens the outside..  if your rice looks like that it should work for ya..  and ive yet to try spores on this..  but id think it would work just the same..


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    #14147143 - 03/19/11 04:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #14147542 - 03/19/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeep!  im gonna make a thread for you to post in as soon as its ready!  i harvested my first shroom this morning!!
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actually go here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14089479/page/1 and you can update this thread too!  this is a friend of mine..  i gifted him that monotub to see if he can learn it too and grow alongside mine so we can compare results and styles!


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    #14147588 - 03/19/11 09:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i upped the FAE and humidity by placing it near a fan and misting it a bit..  it helped the shrooms grow alot..  the textured part of the stem kinda turned white and soft looking and alot thicker..  how can i get these to get better size? more fae? lol..  more moisture in the sub?  these are kinda not great...  im gonna do more work to stabilize the genetics when the monotub pops off..  could that be the problem?  i doubt it cuz the original print was said to be over 3" i believe..


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i upped the FAE and humidity by placing it near a fan and misting it a bit..  it helped the shrooms grow alot..  the textured part of the stem kinda turned white and soft looking and alot thicker..  how can i get these to get better size? more fae? lol..  more moisture in the sub?  these are kinda not great...  im gonna do more work to stabilize the genetics when the monotub pops off..  could that be the problem?  i doubt it cuz the original print was said to be over 3" i believe..




Your problem is most likely water. The substrate is REALLY small. With how small it is, you actually would probably get better results from crumbled PF cakes. Your system is still bad ass in a half-assed way. :lol:

Have you been misting? If not, that's at least one good reason why they'd be small. You could also pour some water down the edges until the substrate is floating on water, and let it sit like that for about 8 hours or so, and then drain. Maybe do that every other day, and it should really help to hydrate everything and give you better mushrooms.

3" is really small, though, so these could just be short phenotypes, in addition to a small substrate. Substrate depth will greatly influence mushroom size. Check these out, with a 4" deep substrate:



EXACT same isolate on cased grain:



Those mushrooms are WAY less than even HALF the size of the other ones. It's all about water, man. A deep substrate has a lot of water to pull from, and the bigger the substrate, the more developed the mycelial network, so the more water can be made available. Deeper substrates also necessarily have more water in them, too. :awesomenod:


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    #14149067 - 03/19/11 03:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

holy cow!  those mushrooms are fuckin EXTREME!!  yeh i have been misting..  i was scared of water pooling at the bottom of the cake but now im gonna go ahead and saturate the cake like you say!  thank you!  ill let ya know how it works!


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    #14154682 - 03/20/11 04:17 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

...just be sure to allow the bottom of the cake to dry out in between mini-dunkings. :kenthumbup:

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    #14154906 - 03/20/11 05:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i added quite a bit of water for like 8 hours or so then poured it out....  i only got 4 shrooms left to harvest (9 total)..  theyre almost fully mature i think..  my plan is to go ahead and take the last ones when they are ready and dunk for 6-8 hours for the second flush..  its already got little pins everywhere on its surface..  oh and if it contams..  owell :shrug:  it was free and easy..  and i have 3 bulk projects moving along nicely right now too!  and another one of these on the way as well! :thumbup:  again..  thanks dude..  i appreciate your help!:awesomenod:


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    #14154975 - 03/20/11 05:24 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

want a print?  i got 3 prints from this grow up for grabs of this "synocybins shroomery special"  its not stable or domesticated..  this is from a wild florida print from an unknown user at shroomery and the original print was said to be 3-4" in diameter..  i recieved it from this thread: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13849683/fpart/1/vc/1 ; the only requirements are whoever recieves these prints must have at least one successful grow, and promise to share this print on shroomery for free..  trade it or whatever..  just dont sell it...  first come first serve post here and ill pm ya :super:


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    #14157385 - 03/21/11 12:49 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: wow]
    #14157829 - 03/21/11 03:09 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

hey whats uuupppp!!!!! lol : D dude 1/4 white awsome!!!!! 3 days and beautiful. du dud duuuu duu duud duuuuu!!! like espn!!1 ... bomb growing bomb growimg bomb tripping..... i love this!!!!!

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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: bigbudshrooms]
    #14158401 - 03/21/11 09:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lol...  :dizope::awedance:


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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: wow]
    #14158411 - 03/21/11 09:10 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well...  i dunked it for like 10 hrs or so..  its already got flush 2 comin in!  i prolly got an eigth off the first flush dry...  9 mushrooms total..  all about the same size..  the new pins already look healthier than the last so i hope i get at least one decent sized shroom outta this..


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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: wow]
    #14159193 - 03/21/11 12:56 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i've pulled some better genes since round one lol

the reason that the og print was so big is because it was wild

ive seen some big outside mush.

water it well and it should be ok. great first flush though. 

keep us posted  :yesnod:


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    #14159270 - 03/21/11 01:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

will do!!  it looks MUCH healtier after the dunk!  i hope it flushes better than the first flush!  still got an eighth!!  i cloned the first biggest one on agar...  im gonna isolate it then try it again on grain soon!  i cant wait!  also im gonna clone some off the bigger tub!  the tub is almost ready too!  its exiting man!


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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: wow]
    #14159939 - 03/21/11 03:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i have a 7.5 quart mini-tub that i just cut the bag out of last night.

looks fantastic!!

i cant wait to see more of this little "excusive variety's" wonderous growing habits..

like i said before i'm working with stabilizing the genetics alittle more..

i took a good sized fruit, maybe 4.5 inches tall, weighed about 21 grams, and cloned it to agar.

the result of that was three more transfers for the faster growing sectors and finally an agar--->grain transfer to 1 qt wbs.

colonized and spawned to 2.5 qt coir

i will clone the best looking fruit from every flush from this next round and try to get something more workable.

i'll be updating YOU with some pictures very soon.


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    #14161324 - 03/21/11 08:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

man i cant wait!  im going to be doing the same with this upcoming tub as well!  another major update im just coming down from my first trip in a really long time..  i split the first flush which was probably just a  bit over an eighth with my friend and all i gotta say is WOW!  the potency of these was seriously no joke!  i tripped for a good 3 1/2-4 hours on these today!  i gotta say im completely satisfied and proud of myself for producing such a good speciman!  ill keep the updates on the 2nd flush as they come in..  cant wait to get my mono thread going..  i have a SS mono thats 20 gal with 7 quarts of poo/coir and 2 wbs,  a 10 gal koh samui with 4 1/2 quarts the same sub 2 qt wbs,  and a malabar about the same as that one..  make sure to post up the updates mang!  ill post all my SS grows too!


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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: wow]
    #14162365 - 03/21/11 11:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

first flush cracker dry..  idk how much prolly a bit more than a 8th?  i split this with bigbudshrooms today and let me tell ya.. :eek: super strong! 

also i have these :thumbup:
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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: wow]
    #14163832 - 03/22/11 10:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

@wow - Very nice sir!

got a few knots this morning, updates when i get home.

how was the trip?


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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: bigbudshrooms]
    #14164737 - 03/22/11 01:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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hey whats uuupppp!!!!! lol : D dude 1/4 white awsome!!!!! 3 days and beautiful. du dud duuuu duu duud duuuuu!!! like espn!!1 ... bomb growing bomb growimg bomb tripping..... i love this!!!!!

GOD made dirt, dirt wont hurt!!!!1:rasta::rasta:





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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: faceyneck]
    #14164868 - 03/22/11 02:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Im confused. 10 posts up the post title changed, and it seems so did the subject. Whats going on here? Am I missing something?


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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: Synocybin]
    #14165462 - 03/22/11 04:06 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

yeh lol..  i think he changed the subject not knowing what he was doing..
lol..  he hasnt been on message boards like this before..

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@wow - Very nice sir!

got a few knots this morning, updates when i get home.

how was the trip?




man the trip was amazing..  it was only a mouth full and i was only trying for a mild trip just to see if i was successfull..  man they really caught me off guard..  we went to the park to play disk golf and just ended up walking around for like 2 hours..  then smoked some weed and chilled at my buddys house for a while..  but it was seriously a full blown trip!  i wasnt really expecting that at all but it was all good..  nice surprise...:thumbup:  have you tripped on these yet?!


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Re: miculluj growing and bomb bome whitemess, its happening!!!! thanks wow ur amazerrrrrryyyyy [Re: wow]
    #14165593 - 03/22/11 04:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I havent, but i've heard good things from friends that i gave them to.

very cool.


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Re: wow's totally cool experiment [Re: Synocybin]
    #14165774 - 03/22/11 05:03 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Great experiment,
im suprised it works!


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